Street Preacher Larry Craft Vs. Lesbian Pastor…

Date: September 22, 2008

The owner of this channel, has decided to make these videos private…thereby depriving you of the ability to watch them.

…Part One…

…Part 2…

…Part 3…

Here is the description, the channel owner had given with this video, when I wrote my response to it.

DESCRIPTION:
“Street Preacher Larry Craft goes toe to toe with a lesbian pastor of a sodomite church. She thinks the Bible is not divine and that God is going to accept all sodomites into heaven. Larry Craft takes a stand on Gods Word and shows her to be an imposter and not a Christian.”

You know…I am endlessly amazed, at all the flavors of ideology which sprout from the vague and uncertain caricature of “jesus christ”.

Here we have a biblical character, who if you study many earlier religions predating christianity, you will recognize nearly every single trait about “him”, in many different earlier “gods”…who had nothing to do with christianity. The idea that “jesus christ” is not a composite character, pieced together from pre-existing religions, is laughable…It is so starkly clear, that christianity has advanced itself throughout history, by infusing itself into already existing traditions and beliefs, and placing a christian spin onto them, until nobody even knows what the origins of said traditions and beliefs even were…the masses wrongly presume that, whatever they were, “they were christian”…

So, here sets this man, who boldly presumes to “know” what “jesus christ” was, and what “jesus christ” was like…Yet, this same man can not even establish that “jesus christ” ever even “was” at all…

Maybe, there was a martyr for christianity, named “jesus”…and he was popularly supported as “the christ”…I don’t know, and I can not rule that possibility out…

…but, Charles Manson has also been referred to as “jesus christ”, and he had his own cult thing going on, too…

The difference, is that we “know” that Charles Manson actually exists, and has lived amongst us…

We have far greater substantiation, in bowing down and worshiping Charles Manson, on those grounds alone…Sure, he may be an evil “jesus christ”…but who are you going to honestly have the “fear of god” over…Charles, or the bible caricature?…

…and before you get morally offended, the atrocities Charles Manson is accused of inciting, pale in comparison to the extent of unspeakable atrocities the biblical god claims responsibility for…

Charles Manson is clearly, far less cruel and inhumane…

…well…that is all presuming that one believed that the bible god even existed…

…but, I digress…

Cracking open a bible, while pointing and shaking your finger at people as you condemn them…that is the path of the ignorant and the blind. What we know as “the bible” is so fallible, that it is ridiculous…If you base your life, mindset and judgment on the bible, then you can expect a life of fallibility and ridiculousness.

Sure, fine…glean what nuggets of wisdom you can from the bible, if you please…but don’t be fooled into believing, that just because a handful of rational, kind and popular sentiments have been expressed somewhere within the pages of the bible, this somehow “excuses” the girth of total insanity, contained within those same pages…

Just because a few level headed things made it in, does not make the entire collection of writings, “sound”….or “level headed”…

Grabbed by the Bag?: A Response to the Father of JimF3…

Date: September 9, 2008

In 2008, the then former webmaster of BoyChat Jim Finn the 3rd [JimF3 – He lived as an out BoyLover for years] was arrested in a fishy ambush, charged with downloading “child pornography”, convicted and sentenced to prison. This came months after Jim played a crucial role in helping Free Spirits and BoyChat, thwart the aggressive onslaught of Perverted Justice, and remain online. The “investigation” was result of allegations made by Perverted Justice [who claimed responsibility]. Many of us believe, Jim was framed and railroaded through the court system, on account of his past positions within Free Spirits and BoyChat.

Anyway…Within months of Jim’s arrest, someone claiming to be his father [Jim Finn the 2nd] appeared briefly on BoyChat, and posted the short message below to all of us. What follows this, is my response to him.

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“Just to let you know that one of your own, jim finn 111 has been sent to jail for 8 years for his computer downloading. As his Father I could not be more disapointed. During the sentencing it was brought out than many of the young boys were tied up and being raped. I thought your site and life style was about love > Or do you consider rape love ?” – jpfinn7

Grabbed by the Bag?…

Hello, Sir…

I once held Jim in very high esteem…

…I don’t consider him, “one of my own”, however…maybe at one point in time, yes…but, that was years ago…

He drew his line…and let the rest of us know, who amongst us were “sub human pieces of trash”, belonging on the other side of that line…

Jim was a paradox, in that he was so vital to BoyChats history…yet he turned into the most abusive, hate filled and vicious, legitimate community member I have ever witnessed on BoyChat. Watching this change, was possibly the single most sickening, disheartening and sobering thing “I” have ever seen here…

It really was the fall, of someone who I considered a modern day hero of sorts…but worse, because it was also a betrayal of so many good, decent people here…who never deserved “that” type of treatment…

It was painful to watch this unfold, and realise what it all meant…

I did not know Jim well [though I was at one time given the impression that there was mutual respect]…and for years, I’ve wanted nothing at all to do with him…As would follow, I don’t know what he enjoyed spending his time doing with his computer…

Personally, I have yet to be solicited by anyone at all, here at BoyChat or elsewhere, with the prospect of seeing young (little?) boys being tied up and raped…literally, figuratively or legally such…

While I can not say that sex starved people will never be enticed to look at all manner of forbidden fruit, I think I can safely vouch for the fact that BoyChat and its core members do not act as a clearing house, for portraits of young boys being tied up and raped.

Literally tying up and raping anyone, is a serious and alarming act of inhumanity.

“That” act is frowned upon and condemned…even “here”…

You know what, though?…

…After being called all manner of hateful things…After a lifetime of being told “that” is what “I” am…After the endless years of personal conflict, and needing to know the truth for myself…

…I could never fault anyone who also walks in these shoes, for needing to see for themselves…

…What would be “my” reactions…if “I” had all the violent, child rape pictures and videos available, at my own personal disposal?…

Would it shock, horrify and disgust me?…or would I involuntarily be swept away, with a sense of arousal entirely out of my control?…

It is a little talked about thing…that amongst other sexual classes…fantasies of violent rape are common…and “they” get to be considered “normal”…and even “healthy”…Nobody is there to decry, demonise or “medicate” the so called “ticking time bomb”…

…but, when the same “normal” and “healthy” thing is applied to a stigmatised sexual orientation…”that is just unthinkable”…”what a monster”…

I think, like many people…you are failing to see and understand the larger complexities of human sexuality…

Let us not lose sight of the fact, that what is truthfully important here…is not whether or not Jim did keep and look at pictures of young boys being tied up and raped…but whether or not Jim was going out, tying up and raping young boys…

I will never condemn anyone who has had in their possession video, or pictorial, documentation of a sexual act involving a legal “child”…

…not even if I condemn that actual act documented.

…I simply will not…To do so, is to give support to the concept of “thought crime”…It is to play into the stigma and stereotype…

I will not support stigmas and stereotypes…I will not pander to lies…

I also will not be forced into answering, for the alleged sexual tastes of another human being…Whatever was found on Jim’s computer, is not the fault of people who have called BoyChat their online home, over the years…and throwing it into “our” collective lap, is simply not right.

If you are looking to be angry with people…as though you want to find someone who led your boy astray…someone you can easily point at, blame and explain it all away…you are looking in the wrong direction…

I don’t know what I feel about Jim’s predicament, beyond that I am always disgusted to see people locked up over what amounts to a thought crime (keeping videos or pictures, is generally accepted as a practice to evoke future thoughts and feelings)…but I know for absolute certainty, that “I” have nothing at all to do with him being there…

Unless you know and are willing to share something concrete that I do not know about this situation, then I would have to say that most (if not all) of us who have participated here over the years, also have nothing to do with it…

For all I know…after seeing his web hosting company brought down, Jim may have just said to himself, “screw it all”…threw caution to the wind, mentally snapped…maybe even had a nervous breakdown, and decide he was going to have fun exploring the sights and sensations, before they came to take him away…

When it is a no win situation, and everything has been done to make ones life as unlivable as is possible…I fail to see how it is that so many of you “normal” people, can’t conceive of just how that effects the mental stability of people like “us”…

If nothing else…ponder these thoughts seriously, please…

To answer more directly…No, I do not consider tying up a person and raping them, to be love…I don’t consider viewing such a thing to be hate, either…I also reject the absurd and obscenely broad legal definitions of the term “rape”…because much of it simply is not rape…and the same stands for “abuse”…

“We” did not lock the door on your son…Your real battle, is with the system and moral extremists.

Steve…

Child Liberation 2: Property Rights…

Date: September 04, 2008

01) Child Liberation 2: Property Rights

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“Who owns a child?”

The Second American Revolution?…

Date: September 4, 2008

01) The Second American Revolution

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Most founding documents of the U.S. have nothing to do with “god” in any form, or any other mystical creature.

“Their creator” is a vague term, not specifying any “being” or “intelligence”…The process of evolution could be called, “your creator”…and atheism has a valuable and honored place in the roots and history of the U.S.

No need to isolate here. American atheists suffer bad politics, alongside everyone else. Many of us are fed up with it, also…more than your average person.

I also have to add, your claim that the supreme court has “thrown god out of public life”, smacks of gross exaggeration.

It reminds me of how the U.S. supreme court ruled that public schools could no longer force participation, in daily school prayers…nor could public schools punish or discriminate against students who declined to participate…and some christain groups just flew off the handle, spinning this situation with propaganda so bad, that what they tell you does not even resemble the truth of what factually happened…Consequentially, most christians seem incompetently unaware of the fact, that prayer, bible study and other religious activities are legally allowed by law at public schools…The important distinction is that nobody can be forced to participate in them.

For making this distinction (the only legally sound one they could have arrived at), the U.S. supreme court is claimed to be “throwing god out of public life”…

There is a world of difference between trying to blot out a religious character, and religious practice…and acting to protect the rights of those, who do not subscribe to certain religious viewpoints.

The U.S. supreme court has not attempted the former…but they have strived to accomplish the latter.

Thanks to the U.S. supreme court, your local church does not own your public school kids, nor have the authority to impose indoctrination onto them, as a hostage audience.

This is a good thing…