Daily Archives: June 16, 2009

Personal Observations: HR 1913 “The Pedophile Protection Act”…


Date: June 16, 2009


I should say, that my position on the whole “hate speech law” concept, is much deeper, and distrusting, than what the following essay might lead you to believe…However, below, I am only addressing, the impracticality of excluding any groups/individuals, from the protections of any such proposed law.

Upon closer examination, and looking at a longer video clip…

When Rep. Alcee Hastings reads the long list of sexual groups, he also says, “This is what we have to put up with”…in reference to a few republicans, who put this list together.

I believe, Alcee Hastings was voicing more a disgust, at the outrageous nit picking, which these republicans were doing, in order to raise objection, and/or hinder the intent of the then proposed law.

I do not believe that Alcee Hastings, himself, was championing “pedophiles, zoophiles, necrophiliacs, etc, etc”…but, instead, he was voicing how incredulous it was, that a few republicans were pulling this entire stunt, which got the bill nicknamed, “the pedophile protection act”…It was pointing out how they were being spurious, and committing yet another act of dirty politics.

He was disgusted, at how they were pandering to phobia, and bigotry, in order to handicap any resulting “hate speech” law, and hinder it from actually doing what it was intended to do.

Without having to say so, dismissing the notion that “there should be groups excluded”, only reaffirms that they actually intended this law to mean something, and have effect.

It would be ludicrous, to suggest that only the politically correct, “just as good as straights”, plain vanilla gays and lesbians, be given their very own, custom law…which elevates their own, and only their own, group to a privileged, protected status…which few, or no, other groups realise benefit from.

It should be noted, that “hate speech” effects a much wider range of people and groups, than merely plain vanilla homosexuals.

…Just because, so many of those groups and people, are not presently in a politically advantageous position, right now…does nothing to imply, or justify, the notion that those people and groups are any less impacted, or less devastated, by “hate speech”.

It is like I have said before…

…”Hate speech” is said, with intent to take societies perception of a targeted group, or individual…and dehumanise it, to the point where society (or groups within it) regards that group, or individual, as not deserving, or being fit, to receive even the most minimum of humane treatment.

“Hate speech” exists, in order to push the masses into discrimination, hate and violence, against a targeted group, or individual.

The effects of “hate speech”, which such a proposed law would address…includes things like, people who post pictures, names, addresses, accusations and smears, on a website…aimed at someone who the website owner, simply does not like, and holds a predatory disposition towards…and presented, in order to motivate others, who also hold a predatory complex, into committing acts of violence, and/or activities in hindrance of that individuals ability to carry on their daily business, maintain a stable life and survive.

To put this into perspective…

…If “I” am walking down main street, and some psychopath approaches me, pulls out a gun and shoots me in the head…and later investigations expose, that this persons only motive, was that some hate site, [like wikisposure, a site infamous for out of context quote mining, smearing, and false information] managed to get all of my information, and post it online for any mentally unstable person, looking for any excuse to murder someone, to read and become enraged over…then, this would be a very clear example of “hate speech”, and establish a very clear responsibility in my murder, on the part of Perverted Justice, Philip John Eide (aka: Xavier Von Erck), and any other person(s) associated with that smear page, they have directed at “me”.

“Hate speech” law…is intended to curtail certain types of violent, and discriminative, behavior…like what I just mentioned, and even just behavior, which inhibits a targets survival, and/or ability to engage in legal activities.

If they are going to write a new law, which is intended to address that kind of a problem…

…how does anyone figure, that you could ever exclude certain groups?…and especially, when those certain groups represent some of the most alarming, and extreme examples of what happens, when “hate speech” is not denounced, or contested?

There are a number of examples, of murder, violence and extreme abuse/discrimination…committed, because some “angry at the world” psychopath, found information on somebody, on a “sex offender” registry [which are infamous, for including non-violent, non-threatening individuals], and decided that that somebody, “deserved” their complete contempt and cruelty.

How can any “hate speech” law exist, and have any meaning what-so-ever…if it actually had the audacity, to exclude the very people who desperately need such protections, the most out of all groups in our society?

Seriously…

“Hate speech” is still “hate speech”…and “hate crime” is still “hate crime”…no matter who is the target.

You are either going to write a law that addresses these kinds of social ills…or, you are not.

…There is no, “on the fence” position, here…

I agree…


Date: June 16, 2009

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I agree…

However, when it comes to “hate” crime, there is no valid excuse to exclude “us”.

Hypothetically, if I were walking down the street [minding my own business, going from point “a” to point “b”], and someone knew who I was, what I looked like, etc…and they recognised me, and in their angered state of bigotry they thought it was in their right to “protect” their neighborhood by running me over with their car…that is very clearly a hate crime.

…and, frankly, I would hope that people so delusional, as to think that they have any such “right”, to do that to anyone at all, would be dealt with in a particular manner, so as to make it perfectly clear…no, they do not.

What really gives me the creeps about “hate” law, however, is when it is applied to speech.

There certainly are groups out there, promoting “special” definitions for “hate speech”, which equate to nothing more than politically incorrect speech…or, speech which offends the most emotionally fragile, amongst the entire population.

Speech should not be criminalized. That is just an insane can of worms, and a Pandora’s box, that is going to drop a lot of people into a bottomless quagmire.

I do not see this bill as any “saving grace” for us, even if my above comments seem optimistic.

In fact, I think it’s potential menace, far overshadows any possible good that it represents.

HR 1913 Passed…


Date: June 16, 2009

…Apparently it passed [in congress]…

…Apparently it passed [in congress]…

…YouTube Link…

…YouTube Link…

I’m not sure what changes (if any) took place, before it passed.

Personally, I am not comfortable with “hate” law [or “hate speech” law], because it is way too subjective.

On the other hand, however…as relates to “our” minority, this is the kind of political wake up call, and change in legal direction which we are in dire need of.

Frankly, if anybody is trying to “sneak” us in, along with gays and lesbians, etc…then, I think it is more part of a trend, in getting fed up with “sex offender” communities living under bridges, residential laws that allow them to live nowhere, children being put on “sex offender” registries, etc, etc, etc.

There has been a completely irresponsible, deafening silence, in the face of this endless, mindlessness. The menace must be confronted, at least by people who think somewhat sane.

Irregardless, they cannot exclude us from this kind of a bill…Hell, we are a minority, on the forefront of the most galling and inhumane, socially imposed discrimination, threat and abuse. If they excluded us, this bill would be a meaningless farce.

Anti Hate Legislation…


Date: June 16, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQaEHuouB0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQaEHuouB0

Apparently bill HR 1913 passed [in congress].

Even though the people who made the following video, are clearly biased against us, I found this video to be very interesting to watch [mostly for the video clips included within it].

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-dueutW6rA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-dueutW6rA

U.S. HR 1913…


Date: June 16, 2009

Firstly, to address the question of what is, HR 1913…

This was a bill in congress, which recently passed…

The “feel good” slant on it, is that this type of law is allegedly going to curtail Matthew Shepard, type murders/assaults…and other forms of discrimination, fostered and promoted by people, and groups, who have an obsession with targeting others, and using speech to construct a dehumanising effect…thus, em-bolding others to act in violence and aggression, against their chosen target.

In short, it claims to have the authority, to prosecute [and potentially incarcerate] anyone that acts in malice, to smear other people…in an attempt to cause a socialised aggression, or even just “lone wolf” assaults, against them.

Now, of course…in the real world, where we have a myriad of complexities…this law is a nightmare waiting to happen.

What constitutes “hate speech”, is amongst the critical questions…

…also, how do we determine, when this “hate speech” is manifesting itself?

Some people claim, that “hate speech” can be merely politically incorrect speech…or, controversial speech…Which, puts people like myself, in a ridiculous position, where for doing nothing more than promoting human rights, and speaking out on difficult topics in a calm and measured manner…”I” could be targeted, and smeared even more than I typically am currently, and more importantly, censored, fined, imprisoned, etc, etc…under the false pretext, that “I” am a purveyor of “hate speech”…when nothing could be more clearly farther from the truth…

…and if that happened, I would have grounds on which to claim, that smearing me in such a manner, is, itself, “hate speech”.

We also have the problem, that individuals and groups who clearly do promote “hate speech”, are going to morph their own behaviors, in order to conceal it…

…which herds us all into the incredible mess, of trying to distinguish when conversation about a group, or topic, is literally intended as “hate speech”, versus when it is all “sincere” discussion of a topic…and having to suppose, what the author was originally thinking, when he/she wrote the text in question…or spoke it.

Suddenly, the websites that list the names, addresses, etc, etc, of doctors who perform abortions, can repackage themselves, as “resources for women in need”, become more discrete…but, essentially, continue on, disseminating information…for the vigilantes to deal their own idea of “justice”.

How will legitimate “abortion resources” sites fare in all of this?…That is a perfectly fair, and necessary question, after all.

The question begs to be asked…

How do we even define the term “hate speech”, in any way that is not subjective, or left to exploitative interpretation?

Anyway…I am going to post a short series of things that I have written, in response to U.S. HR 1913, in the next several, following posts…It may be a bit dis-conjoined…but, it all fits together.