Daily Archives: December 24, 2013

I Want to Know…


Date: December 24, 2013

01) BoyChat Thread

02) Why I Cannot Blame Russia and India for Taking on the Gays

…What is with all of this obsession with anal sex, by those who disapprove of homosexuals?…

They don’t like it, fine…I get that…but what is with the broad spanning implications, that young children are being subjected to anal sex by older men as a matter of course?

It was not explicitly stated…but I would suggest it is strongly implied by the inclusion of the “sodomy of a nine year old boy” reference…that the author has tied a very uncommon occurrence [a smaller boy being anally penetrated by a grown man], with common homosexual behavior…

I don’t know…maybe in the history of the world [in a running total], a lot of nine year old boys have experienced anal sex like that…But aside from the rhetoric of people and groups dead set against homosexuals, I’ve never seen anything supporting this…I have never encountered credible statistics, that put this act as anything but an extreme rarity…Certainly nothing that homosexuals should be known for.

I do have to agree with the author, however…that the LGBT by inflicting its domination of social speech, has become its own monster…And it also debases itself, because it refuses to confront genuine complicated issues about itself…including the bad…

If you cannot acknowledge your own warts…you lack credibility…And people do need to care enough about each other, to be honest…even if that means taking the hard knocks.


Just an interesting note…

03) Explicitly stated elsewhere

“I followed a couple of links.. he goes on and on about the subject. – slvrspun”

04) LINK [page gone]

“The important point for our purposes is that LGBT lobbyists said this wouldn’t happen, and it did. A clear trend is breaking.”

López offers this in response to the judgment on a polygamy case…

…I just hope he is aware, that polygamists represent an entirely different group from LGBT…and that LGBT can neither speak for polygamists, nor dictate their future endeavors…

It does not matter what the LBGT has to say…They may not themselves be campaigning on behalf of others…but that does not stop those others, from fighting for their own rights.

Same thing can be said about other groups, like us…

…LGBT have not got a single authoritative thing to dictate, about us…nor our future horizons…Nor can the LGBT offer any assurance, as to what will happen in the wake of their own liberation…

In all fairness, no group should ever have to have its own freedom, weighed against the behavior [or intent] of a different group of people. If what they seek can be soundly defended, then they should not have to worry about others, who want things that cannot be soundly defended.

The problem here is the employment of “slippery slope”, by López…

I think we could largely get rid of “slippery slope” mentality, if we could get the majority to honestly focus on the nature of relationships, as opposed to the fears and propaganda about them.


I should say…

It actually did come through from the original article, that he had had a history of homosexual relationships, and for whatever reason, he now regrets it.

…I did pick up on the “I was abused” vibe…

I still don’t see where he as a teenager doing that sort of thing, equates to giving so much emphasis to “nine year old boys taking it up the butt”…Maybe, I am reading too much into his first article?

I guess I could be going too far, in his case…maybe…

…I just get so tired of the trend, watching other people march straight to the “little boys are being raped in the behind” well…and acting as though “half the population” has their dick in a small boy, at any given moment in time.

It is incredibly tasteless to me, when people go there…Would it be too strong of me, admitting I find it offensive also?


‘Victims’ of Gay Penis?…

05) He makes a half-assed case, of sorts

06) Unbearable Sleaziness of Being (a Gay Man) [another deleted post]

He does sound like he has some issues, yes…and I am less than compelled, by the long, winding labyrinth he presents.

He is still talking about teenagers…and not smaller boys, from what I see.

Maybe he had the sex, and just kept having the sex…but he didn’t really like it?…Maybe, he was never a [natural] bottom?

I can definitely say that sounds dreadful…but it also feels like a lot of personal projection.

Identity…


Date: December 24, 2013

01) Link

“By not having a name, you close off your difference and identity. It’s not just a label, it’s a description.”

True…I’ve often wondered how it would exactly help us, by giving up the use of words like “pedophile”.

If we don’t have anything to coherently discuss our own issues, then how do we support each other?…or even find each other? Community support and organization is thrown straight out the window…except, maybe, for very vague expressions of it.

…but sometimes, we need to have the specialized focus…I mean, some of us actually are exclusive BoyLovers [pedophiles, as well]…and empathetic, sound advice does not just come from anybody at all…nor does genuine understanding, of our more unique issues.

Likewise…I don’t see how abandoning words like “pedophile” will help…because the social hysterics surrounding the phantom named “pedophile”, took on a life of its own decades ago…

…In fact, it is explicitly because of the extreme excesses of said social hysterics…that some of us [myself included] have been pushed out of complacency, taking a more public stance against those extreme excesses.

I honestly don’t see us being quiet or going into hiding, as an option…Social hysteria feeds off of itself, and has a tendency to just keep getting worse by its own initiative. Doing nothing and saying nothing, is being complacent…all in the face, of social behavior which is causing a lot of turmoil and suffering…and a cultural state I find impossible to live in, without letting it be known just how badly it exasperates [and some days infuriates] me.

What I envision under the various words we use to describe ourselves [“pedophile” being one of them]…is a very large community that comes together, grows and builds a support structure…One that finally stands up for itself, and for it’s own basic dignity and right to exist…I envision a day, where we can openly state who we are, what we are, how we are…share genuine experience, wisdom and advice amongst ourselves…and even with the world, at large.

One practical outgrowth of this, might be a resource like BoyChat [or even face-to-face fellowships]…where those who are in need of advice [maybe just relationship advice, of any nature that is common to us], can benefit from those amongst us more experienced…maybe even like a father to a son, or a mother to a daughter…It is the same concept, of passing on knowledge.

This is a patently human thing…and it should never be forced to exist in hiding, nor expressed openly only under euphemisms.

…We have a right to our own identities…a right to finding and sharing, good things about ourselves, and about those we share commonalities [and our lives] with.

…It has been amongst the worst mass psychological rapes in history…that anybody at all, has been able to make individuals like us ever believe otherwise…A vast many of us carry the burdens and sufferings of their definitions…And those are shackles, which really must be cast off.