Date: July 01, 2014
“Pedophilia: the word alone conjures up the most unspeakable crimes. But what is it: a psychiatric disorder that can be treated? Some new research indicates it may actually be innate and unchangeable — an orientation. We speak with ex-offenders and doctors on both sides of the debate. This episode was researched and prepared by documentary filmmaker Andrew Munger.
Is pedophilia – as various researchers are now saying – simply the way some people are wired?
Or is pedophilia a condition — a kind of illness — that we can treat and maybe even cure? Is it actually possible to change a pedophile into a non-pedophile?”
A CBC Radio podcast from Thursday, May 1, 2014.
Sometimes, you just get tired of all the analysis and hypothesizing done about people like us, by people who are not us…
…Which may come off a bit paradoxical coming from me, since I do have an “open arms” policy towards intelligent discussion associated with “pedophilia”…I do think at least a few grains of salt are required, whenever people who don’t walk this path start trying to define us and explain us to everybody else…And no, it does not matter how many degrees and certificates one possesses…There is no substitute, for first hand experience in this state of being.
It is never particularly comfortable, feeling something like a lab rat…And despite all the gadgets and methods at their disposal…common sense dictates, even the experts are walking into the unknown on this.
…At least those of us who are “pedophiles” possess a tangible, life long existence with it…and know it intimately…such that we can define it, in ways that are concrete…by how it has shaped our very being.
Outsiders commonly just never get this, nor the relevance of it.
Probably the major thing that concerns me, just as it concerns many…is the fact that…we can get to a point where research involving “pedophiles” is finally respected and left to peacefully be conducted…but we never know where it is, that researchers are going to pick up the ball and run with it…Nor can we do anything, if their agenda is in question…or even alarming, to many of us.
I’ve been wanting to see sound, dignified research involving people like us for many years…
…Sometimes, what we are seeing today…it comes off feeling like just more of the same old thing…the “containment” approach, but with a lexicon that is more empathetic.
I don’t know that it is progress…to find out that Dr. James Cantor’s samples have a higher than average rate of left handedness…Nor that they were short…Nor that they had a lower IQ…Nor that brain scans seem a bit different…In fact, most of that seems trivial…What is left feels like exploring a diagnosis of cause…For what purpose?…To rid us of this?…To annihilate part of who we are, as human beings?…
…To force us to stop being inconvenient, to rigid social models that have never wanted to make any room in this world for us?
Dr. Paul Federoff claims we can be changed?…
The human is so complex in mind and chemistry, that it is not hard to imagine…many people who move in and out of the sphere of “pedophilia” can, and do, have adult sexual companions.
…But there is an enormous difference between someone who can placate themselves with an adult companion…and someone who actually ceases to be a “pedophile”…And no…lack of action does not accomplish this…Even a lessening or evolution of the attraction, does not change this point…Only total removal of such an orientation, would stop someone from being a “pedophile”.
After listening to some of this…
“Jesse White”…This sounds like a good example of the effects of sexual repression. One day, the victim of repression gets a taste of something that clicks with them [in this case, child pornography]…and they ultimately get careless about their actions, or how they go about their behavior with others…There develops a false sense of security…and then they do something, which is totally crazy to even try, and without a healthy respect for consequences.
I don’t know what he did…but the setting described makes me believe he was in the wrong.
This is one thing that happens, when people are allowed no sexual outlet.
“Jessie” wanted drug intervention…On principle, I am dead set against any forced or coerced drugging…but I think self elected individuals who are having issues, have a right to walk that path. I do think it is a terrible shame and failure on the part of society, that drugs are what things have been dragged out too…but given some circumstances, I can understand why some individuals might want them.
We basically get the typical “therapy session” account…
…And, hey…I don’t think I’m going to analyze this much, from here on out…
I’ve already listened to this in the past, meaning to post about it…I wanted to share it here, for others to listen too.
I’m just kind of in one of those moods, where I don’t really want to subject myself to the “caught pedophile, who’s doing the dance” routine…because it really annoys the freaking hell out of me, sometimes…It’s understandable that they do this…They are isolated and trapped, after all…But setting back here listening to it, is like society smearing another big handful of feces in your face. This whole thing can be very grinding on your nerves.
So…Go listen to it, if you like…if you have not, before…Leave a comment, even.
One thing I would like to acknowledge, however…has to do with the MRI brain scans done by Dr. James Cantor…and the rest of his research, actually.
Dr. James Cantor is an out homosexual…
…While I am not so cynical as to believe he has zero concern for the wellbeing of “pedophiles”…I do think there is reasonable concern, where the accusation has been made…that James is interested in creating a body of work, which claims to establish concrete differences between “pedophiles” and homosexuals…and a body of work with scientific evidence behind it.
It is believed by some, that the interest of James rests in liberating basic homosexuals from the socially imposed stigma of “pedophilia”…and distancing them [including himself] from said prejudices…at the possible, grim expense of “pedophiles” themselves…who may end up branded by this research, as abnormal in brain…possibly followed up by even further intrusions in our lives…It may even turn into fodder, for those who want justification in claiming we “are not fully human”…or we are different enough in some way, that persecution of us is “justified”.
In short…there is a lot of sincere and justified concern…that what James is doing, could lead to greater levels of segregation, abuse and discrimination against us…and he is putting the influence of science behind it. There is the potential to hurt us horribly.
I cannot speak authoritatively on brain scans…nor on his sample pool…
…What I can say, is this…We are being framed and presented here, in terms of “abnormality”…
If you look at any recorded civilization throughout human history…we may be a tiny minority…but we are almost universally represented, as a typical part of human society. It is normal for us to be found, within human civilization…Some civilizations got along better with us, than others…Those that did not, or don’t…they are the ones who always frame us in terms of “being a problem”…”not normal”…
So…humans have differences in their brains…That is not a shock…But who is to dictate that even if we did share a common brain characteristic, that this is somehow “abnormal” in the larger scheme of things?…Maybe this is just how human beings are…Maybe people of other orientations will share a different brain characteristic?…Maybe it is normal, for some percentage of all humans to be like this?…
I cant put a whole lot of weight on the brain scans…I honestly cant.
They don’t account for the many unjust social biases, which went into making up this whole social mess in the first place.
The problem is fundamentally social intolerance.
Last word…Despite anything I’ve shared thus far, this is worth listening too. It is very thought provoking…and not everything there drives me up the wall…just for the record.
Thought I should express that, and end on a more positive note.