Date: August 04, 2014
Note: The spam block glitch is no more. They fixed the glitch. I’m posting this because this problem [and the fanatics exploiting it] deserves a mention.
01) BoyChat Post
…And let me clarify, this is only important if you are interested in the “spam block” attacks going on at twitter. Not only do we get verbal confirmation from people involved…we also get a glimpse into their very meager incites, and non-existent sense of tolerance towards others.
I cant blame you if you skip the entire mess…but, I recommend at least skipping a few large chunks of it.
There is a brief blurb at about 20 minutes in…then it actually picks up the ranting at about 41 minutes in.
…So, I cannot recommend highly enough, that you skip the first twenty minutes…and then skip another twenty minutes ahead…though the first mention isn’t much important.
Visiting the Obvious Potomos [@ObviousPotomos] account…this person looks to be a vulgar, immature, bile spewing twitter troll.
Pretty much everything I witnessed, came off as cyber stalking and abuse…I’m astonished, at how this person is allowed to keep an account on twitter, when it is so clear they need to be banned from the service.
The podcast itself is…well…it’s a sorry excuse for a podcast [and I listened to the previous episode, also…So, I can give a bit more incite, on it’s bad quality]…but you will, eventually, hear verbal confirmation of the twitter “spam block” attacks, which have been discussed here in the past.
…You’ll hear a lot of self righteous indignation…They are clearly trying to pick a fight with a twitter user [who is not me, thank you]…a few twitter users, honestly.
The whole thing eventually devolves into some convoluted diatribe, involving some other “pedophile” [a guy who got touchy with his teenage daughters friends], who this trio has been going on and on about, including on the last episode…and apparently, well before that.
I see no justification in what they are doing to these twitter users [people who are just sharing information they have found], and everything about this looks to be obsessive sociopathic behavior, on their part.
The only reason I am even aware of any of this, is because “Obvious Potomos” decided to tweet “you should be room temperature” [potentially, a thinly veiled death threat] to me, along with the person he was harassing and stalking on twitter.
Their initial target in all of this, retweeted one of my tweets…automatically sent from my blog, when I posted the “lost newgon article”, also posted here several days back.
I’m amazed at the garbage some people put out as “podcasts”…If you want to know how bad it gets, listen to the first twenty minutes…If you’ve not died of agonizing boredom, continue listening to the next half hour…What an insane mess…I’d be too embarrassed, to even release something like that.
…And this guy was gloating and taunting his target, leading up to this “podcast”…
…It’s only fit to go straight into the trash can.
It’s very dehumanizing…and I would call this hate speech, in it’s literal form…They’re verbally attacking people, who are very obviously using twitter in a fully legal and ethical manner…But these self appointed governors have decided that, society will never accept us…therefor, we have no rightful place on twitter…or, apparently, online.
If you want to get down to the crux, of why people like these three are such a problem…it is right there, in their own anticipated sense of self entitlement, to stop anyone they don’t like [or that they believe “whatever” about], from ever even being able to access social communication outlets, for the purpose of just discussing their social plight.
…Nothing gets more cruel and sinister, than working to strip the vulnerable and downtrodden, of their voice.
That is the worst of the human species, showing it’s face…It is every bit as ugly, as any child brutalizer or child rapist.
…And these three have zero standing, on which to pass judgment on people like us.
Not that simple…
August 04, 2014
02) Why get so worked up on nonsense found on social media?
The ranting itself would be only fit to be ignored, if it weren’t for the fact that this “podcast” is a window into the minds of people involved with “spam block” attacks.
If you are not aware of what that means…twitter has a severe flaw in it, which these people are exploiting.
Unless you block them first…anyone can retweet [republish on their own page], anything that you have published on twitter. The system itself is not smart enough to disqualify spam flagging/blocking, even when the accounts own owner has elected to place it there. What exists is this group of douchebags, with a large pool of underlings…who go around picking other peoples tweets to republish on their own page, just to turn around and order their followers to spam block the hell out of this tweet.
I’m not sure what the threshold is…but, eventually the system automatically suspends the targeted account as “a spammer account”.
These people are engaged in a form of censorship, via underhanded method…and it is something which has come up here, at least twice in the past. I thought a few people might be interested.
I wouldn’t exactly call myself “worked up” about this…but I thought it was relevant enough to note…And yes, another part of me was thinking, this really aught to die from lack of attention.
You know…I think a lot of us have become all too comfortable, shielded and detached from “the normal internet”. We’ve had these oasis like Free Spirits for so long, it’s almost unthinkable that the day will come when they no longer exist. But when that day comes, “the normal internet” is all that we will have left…and our situation is going to be, what we fight to make of it. We should not be absent from “the normal internet”.
…There are people actively working to force us out of “the normal internet”…
I take very deep, very strong issue with this…and I have sound reasons for doing so.
This is why I thought enough of this garbage, to post a link to it.
…It is also interesting and telling, to take a closer look at the quality of people behind these campaigns…
…These are unsophisticated, ignorant, obnoxious and immature bottom feeders.
It is good to keep a sound perspective, on who and what is threatening people like us.
03) Response to This
I’m totally with you, on this.
I’m posting about this here, primarily because there has been some degree of discussion on this issue here, in the past.
Yes…as you notice [I didn’t bother to specify much about the actual content], there is that bit of information about the Interpol cop that got dropped.
…They are obvious fanatics, marginalized by their own behavior…you are correct…
Maybe we should see it as positive…that at one point, one “plays devils advocate” and points out the targets aren’t actually doing anything illegal…and the two others went on to express, that they don’t care…and make it clear, they see the failure to spam block attack, as some sort of shortcoming.
…By extension, this implies that many people who partake in the spam block attacks, are maybe not prepared to attack the law abiding and upstanding with it?
“One question I have is when the Twitter vigilantes actually make threats of physical violence, from I believe it was Anonymous Vengeance, are there not actions that can be taken by Twitter to cut them off? I noticed that the blocking process seems to require that the person reporting has to have been the one threatened.”
I don’t know…Presumably, you can contact twitter administration [on some level], but what exactly happens, on a network where anyone can just open up another account, is anybody’s guess…but I suspect we already know the crumby answer, from intuition and experience. I’ve never tried to file that sort of complaint. Even under the best circumstances, you’d likely only get technical information [ie: IP address], and told to go file a complaint with their ISP and your [and/or their] local PD.
My take on twitter these days, is that it still has not become a profitable venture, so the people who created it are largely off concerning themselves with other things…and leaving twitter, itself, in a substantially “wild west” sort of state.
“The other question is “spam block”. Is it that anyone can “spam block” anyone else and that it will adversely affect the person being blocked in other ways?”
Yes…anybody can flag a tweet as “spam” and block it. I don’t know if this holds true for your own tweets on your own page, or not…but if one of your tweets finds itself on another persons page, anyone can flag it as “spam” and block it…and large volumes of flags, are what hurt you.
I don’t know all the explicit details, as I don’t go around flagging other people’s tweets as spam…But I do know that the accounts of origin will eventually be suspended, once enough spam blocks have been placed on a tweet.
The effect, is that there are people who can haplessly find their account suspended…because some pro-censorship network of people, is exploiting a very problematic oversight in the twitter system.
Theoretically…you should be able to get your account unsuspended, as the campaign against you was a malicious false flagging…But, the network can keep doing this to an account, as a form of harassment. I don’t know if there is any long term solution to that problem.
One of their established members has started turning her attention towards people using twitter, like you and I…And looking at Obvious Potomos page, this podcast looks to be a “rally call”…and the outcome of that female approaching Obvious Potomos.
It’s kind of a mystery at this point, whether or not people in this network are displaying ethical backbone, and refusing to blindly follow orders…Maybe some of them do understand distinctions?
…I just tend to think, if you join and participate in that kind of a network/behavior…you are already on marginalized ground, holding and practicing an extreme position…Which is to say, I don’t expect rational behavior from any of them.
Maybe I am wrong in that presumption…But I still contend, that we are dealing with a network, which is holding compromised ethics and standing.
The whole thing is a manifestation of extremism and fanaticism.