Supoz Interviews A Pedophile (Are Pedophiles Bad People?)…


Date: January 12, 2017

01) Supoz Interviews A Pedophile (Are Pedophiles Bad People?)


“In today’s video, Supoz Interviews a self admitted Pedophile. I ask the question are pedophiles bad people? Lot’s of extreme and harsh questions are asked, lots of surprising answers and some twist responses that leave in total shock. Viewer Discretion is Advised.”

As a “pro contact”, I have to say…I don’t hate you, Enderphile…I strongly disagree in some issues…but I still respect you. You’re an intelligent guy, and I’m glad you’re out there.

A few parts of this interview are painful to listen too, given that I think there should have been more of a counter perspective offered…but, this is a decent interview.

6 thoughts on “Supoz Interviews A Pedophile (Are Pedophiles Bad People?)…

  1. feinmann0

    No clearer example of how obsequious an interviewer can be … obsequious to his pig-ignorant, discriminatory listeners; an enabler of discrimination in effect.

    “They call themselves ‘virtuous’. In truth they are feckless and morally bankrupt. Too many have swallowed the lies of society whole and believe that they themselves are defective, instead of those who victimize the most vulnerable. If you can’t accept yourself, how can you expect the world to accept you?” … Observer (After The Fall: A Beginner’s Guide to Destroying Pedophobia …)

    Pederasty in ancient Greece was a socially acknowledged erotic relationship between an adult male and a younger male. I thought I heard Enderphile suggesting using the word pederasty to mean child abuse, to separate the term paedophilia from child abuse. Another VirPed mantra: consensual sex between child and adult is child sexual abuse. The AWOL elephant missing from the interview room, and, I suspect, from VirPed’s raison d’ȇtre: child sexuality, and society’s abhorrence of it.

    “I’ve never touched a child sexually; it has never even crossed my mind …” So, Endophile has naught to fear from the thought police then, that is if he is being honest with himself, and of course, with us.

    “I did discover pornography when I was 6 years old. I always wondered whether that had any impact on my sexual development, whether that was something that caused my paedophilia.” I take this as a veiled piece of VirPed propaganda condemning, albeit obliquely, the ‘evil’ that is child erotica.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      The interviewer is a lot to stomach, yes…He wears his contempt on his sleeve.

      The interviewee…while there are times people like Enderphile should be challenged…and he causes me to cringe every now and then…I think MAPs like him are good to have around, because we can bounce a lot of dialogue off of each other…Where we are right now, I think the contrast is healthy…And even if they don’t share all of my viewpoints…I still understand, that much [most?] of what they promote is actually true…They just take a “hands off” approach, on the most controversial stances [ie: changing laws governing adult minor sex]…or they refuse to go against them.

      To be completely honest…while it may be ethically indigestible for some of us to do what VP is doing…I cannot say that it is strategically wrong, given everything else that is going on right now.

      Of course…I have almost two decades of building my persona and my resources…The hole I’ve dug is deep and vast, fueled by a disillusionment with where we were at, and where we are heading [as a society, and a species]…I started speaking truth to power, if you will, because I saw us as being completely locked out…and the ignorant masses are going to hate us, no matter what we do [or do not do]…So, I found the dedicated pursuit of holding a mirror up to societies face, very personally satisfying…and necessary…It’s been a very meaningful pursuit to me.

      By now, this is who I am…Even though at one point in my life, my stances mirrored those of VP…I learned and evolved…and started concentrating my speech on those nuances and issues, which get maligned, deprived of thoughtful dialogue and mindlessly battered to death in most mediums…Because somebody of conscience and integrity needs to do this…A lot of somebodies need to.

      Never say never when it comes to change…But I won’t be doing any flip flopping, especially when it comes to regressing on this issue…I’m not looking for tactical expediency…and I refuse to be seen as someone who distanced himself from this issue, because it’s taboo and demonized, while being socially and politically complicated [in this era].

      I thought I heard Enderphile suggesting using the word pederasty to mean child abuse, to separate the term paedophilia from child abuse. Another VirPed mantra: consensual sex between child and adult is child sexual abuse. The AWOL elephant missing from the interview room, and, I suspect, from VirPed’s raison d’ȇtre: child sexuality, and society’s abhorrence of it.

      He may have…They consider pedophilia to be strictly the attraction. They make distinctions between the attraction, and outward behavior on the attraction. In that sense, pederasty would fit. But you are right to point out it’s historical context, and how it’s not been looked upon the same.

      I’ve been saying for years…this struggle is every bit as much about childhood sexuality [and children’s, adolescent’s and teens right to it], as it is about MAP’s right to their own sexuality, and free rights to companionship amongst the concerned groups…Our societies are, generally, phobic of childhood, adolescent an teen sex…Powerful groups don’t want them having sex, at all…And they know “once the genie is out of the bottle”, most children wont easily go back to not wanting to have sex [because their experience was so pleasant and fun, that it makes them want to repeat it when they think about it].

      I should say…that I staunchly agree, that people have a right and responsibility, to be concerned about their children’s sexual practices and sexual hygiene…But they are helping nobody by overstating things, by lacking a sound understanding of the issues, or by flying off into an emotional huff, whenever these issues come up in discussion. Are there valid underlying concerns they can stand on?…Of course, and they should…But the way most people are approaching this, only drives those things further underground…where it is so much harder to guide them into a better direction.

      …Because another elephant in the room…is that we are talking about a world, of 8 or 9 billion people…and these types of things are going on all the time, somewhere on this planet…It doesn’t matter how many people throw a meaningless tantrum about it…They need to move their obstructive tantrums out of the way, and let honest people address and negotiate life as it exists…Because honest people of integrity, are the only ones with any hope of doing any good, here.

      “I’ve never touched a child sexually; it has never even crossed my mind …” So, Endophile has naught to fear from the thought police then, that is if he is being honest with himself, and of course, with us.”

      To be fair…if true…this is one of his advantages…at least from a legal standpoint…and from the standpoint, that it brings him closer to “normal” people…Who, let’s face it, are the real intended audience here.

      Speaking on audiences…My intended audience is not necessarily “normal” people…In fact, I prefer an audience with an abnormal [or above normal] trait to think outside the box…to naturally afford empathy and respect, especially to those different from themselves…to reject following popular thought and trends, just because they are popular and they never thought too deeply about it…

      I love having a “pervert” and “deviant” audience…And I think they are the ones who most need being motivated…radicalized, even. We need a rejuvenated, radical movement for what we face today.

      “Normal” people are welcome here…I hope they find value in this blog…But I’ve never considered them to be my primary intended audience.

      Getting back to Enderphile…never having touched a child, is also a disadvantage, where it comes to discovery, perspective and experience.

      I cannot say that I have never sexually touched a child…or never seen children sexually touching each other, live in my presence…Granted, I was about twelve or thirteen at the time…and it was the doing of their aggressive sexuality, towards me…I never attempted to get in on what they were doing…I was just there, and they pulled me into it, at various points.

      I’ve written about this a handful of times…On BoyChat and my blogs/websites…Some people [even amongst BL’s] have effectively ridiculed me, for talking about what they judged to be freakish anomalies…But these experiences were priceless, in what they taught and gave me…You don’t unlearn that type of knowledge.

      I’ve often looked at people who have the attraction, but who’ve never had the experience in any form, as being trapped in a strictly philosophical discussion…one which has been limited, by meager social horizons. They’ve been shackled, and only have what limited resources of information are available to them…It is hard to go from there, to a sex positive stance…Many of them have not transcended that point…Likely, a lot of the reason is that they don’t personally have anything concrete, on which to build such a position in their own mind.

      …It exists…but they’ve never connected with it, in a way that they can process and grow from.

      It’s frustrating…but still understandable.

      To be clear…my boyhood was not a cornucopia of child sex [aka sex with other children]…I had a handful of interesting experiences…I was always attracted to boys, throughout everything…But I never mated with anyone…My penis never went into anybody’s vagina or anus…even though there was penis vagina sex going on amongst some kids I knew.

      I don’t hold my personal experiences up, as any form of pinnacle in human life…I just accept them, as a real account of how some children deal with their own sexuality…I accept it as a natural fact of life, how it truthfully exists.

      It seems everybody wants the cartoon fairytales to represent childhood…But I don’t…I want real children, to represent childhood.

      “I did discover pornography when I was 6 years old. I always wondered whether that had any impact on my sexual development, whether that was something that caused my paedophilia.” I take this as a veiled piece of VirPed propaganda condemning, albeit obliquely, the ‘evil’ that is child erotica.

      I don’t know if that’s what he meant, or not…Watching him for some time…[he is welcome to correct me if I am mistaken, but] I think he’s against the creation of child porn, but also against the criminalization of possession and distribution of it…because he realizes that simple viewing and possession, doesn’t actually translate into increased “molestation”…and he realizes what a social waste and quagmire we are in, by having all these insane laws and punishments that aren’t doing any objective good [overwhelmingly just bad]. Again, I interact with a lot of different MAPs…and it’s possible I’m mixing him up with someone else…But I think he sees through the B.S., when it comes to these sorts of possession laws…and I think he knows, the issue is different from how it is commonly portrayed in the media.

      For what it’s worth…he’s recently been arguing in support of the right of MAPs, to shamelessly masturbate to typical pictures of children in magazines [online, etc].

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      1. eqfoundation Post author

        Addendum: It’s not really accurate for me to call it a “hands off” approach, when they actively support the criminalization of adult minor sexual relations…and argue on behalf of it.

        What I was trying to get at…is that they don’t challenge the way the most controversial issues are treated.

        I worded that badly…even though on a personal level, I strongly suspect that some members of VP don’t actually buy into the validity of those laws, the group officially endorses.

    2. Order

      He uses the word “pederasty” because he is a native Spanish speaker, I imagine that he was born in some South American country where English is also spoken, because he is fluent in English too, and in Spanish (And in French and Portuguese at least too, since they are similar) the word pederasty is used as here “child molester”, but would be better expressed as “minor abuser”. They also use it at will against anyone over 18 who has sex with under 18, just like here with pedophile.

      Yes, he criminalizes the erotic child, but in a collateral way, it is really because of the ridiculous dogma of “sex is for adults” so he assumes that exposing himself as a child to something “adult” will have mental sequelae and sexual problems .

      I’ll also answer here at eqfoundation statements

      —- “He may have…They consider pedophilia to be strictly the attraction. They make distinctions between the attraction, and outward behavior on the attraction. In that sense, pederasty would fit. But you are right to point out it’s historical context, and how it’s not been looked upon the same.”

      Virpeds forget something important… that the attraction to children is natural and common, and whether you consider something positive or negative, is different, just like desire eating meat is natural and common, but I hate it, that’s why I’m vegetarian. The same with “pedophilia”, human people are attracted to sex that we like independent of age, I am totally heterosexual and that is why I can feel attracted by females whether they are prepubertal girls, teenagers or adults…

      I do not know what kind of idiot can think that you can only feel attracted from age X to above, legs of a 10 year old girl, they are still female legs, however much they are undeveloped, and that is why I like to look at them although I’m not interested in “touching sexually” a 10-year-old girl, I also do not have any emotional attraction to adult women, however I may feel attracted to such a particular woman and desire her body, but that is normal, children, however children it may be, is a person of the sex in which are an possible sexual arouse, and therefore his body is attractive, whether something negative or positive this fact, that is different, that is what these rabid idiots do not understand and do not want to understand.

      I after dealing with small girls I realized that I can not get along with children, because my way of being, so I have left passively at minimun my natural and innate attraction to children (which I did not choose, but is common to most humans, same as my unwanted attraction to adults) and I have continued with my life, but Virpeds, no, they can not stand with their natural attraction, and they have obsessed with children in an unhealthy way (this happens with non-Virpeds too), now being social addicts they have adapted the narrative and the creed of society, that its attraction is a mistake.

      —– “I should say…that I staunchly agree, that people have a right and responsibility, to be concerned about their children’s sexual practices and sexual hygiene…”

      You said it, children, not adolescents or teens, to consider someone older than 13/14 as “non-adult” (In the sense of being able to make their own decisions, not the literal biological stage of the person) is ridiculous, if someone wants to worry about the sexual hygiene of their son or daughter, they should do it as they would care about the sexual hygiene of their married son o daughter.

      Of course I speak from the point that I only approve relationships between people of very different age (for example, adult and adolescent, mature adult and teen etc.), I never approve if they are of the same age whether between adults or minors, that is why an adult would be responsible of the sexual health of their young partner, if the relationship was between the same age I understand the concerns but I repeat, I do not approve. If you want to avoid sexual problems in the youth, then puts adults as their partners. Teenage pregnancies are okay, the problem is that if they are the same age as they will know how to raise the kid? but if one is adult and the other adolescent they could and healthier than two adults. If the problem is that they do not know how to use contraceptives, then their adult partner will supervise their young partner, for example. And so on.

      ……. As for sexuality with children (and I say sexuality with children, not sex with “minors”) I almost have never had any sexual attraction when I was prepubescent, nor have I ever seen (personally, not stories) that a child had sex with a adult (or another age) in a positive way, neither I nor any of my interactions with children were the least sexual, so I can not support this, as I do not support many other things although people affirm that they are positive, besides my personal security, because nobody here gives the face to the bare, let’s face it, but that does not make me be hostile and aggressive against those who support it and affirm firmly that if they can be positive like feinmann does, instead a Virped is your sworn enemy, in fact I have spoken with him And many others and I do not recommend it (although Enderphile was not so aggressive), they are simply servants of the system and its dogmas, I am not, I am as dissident and enemy as all of you, even if I am not a “pro-contact”, that is the difference.

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  2. feinmann0

    Another quote from Observer: “VP, on the other hand, seems to be doing a great job at handling image and public relations. They can silence the elements that will hurt the movement and present people as humans. How could this be a bad thing when our approval rating would be somewhere between the cancer and ISIS? No, they are not going to work in the very long term, but the short to medium, they are our best hope for combating paranoia and even getting people to consider listening. They tell society what society is ready to hear, and I don’t really care how much of a faggot the admin is, or how many autists they ban, or how much they censor their forums. Good for them, in fact.”

    So yes, good for them for attempting to lay down a stepping stone between the two banks of an un-fordable river. And yes, the interviewee was at pains to separate out the term paedophile from the term child sexual abuser, even though the latter comprise all those paedophiles that act on their desires with their fully consenting young friends, plus all those paedophiles who enjoy their sexuality whilst looking at pictures. That does not leave too many paedophiles that one can categorise: virtuous. I mean are there virtuous homosexuals or virtuous heterosexuals outside a monastry or a nunnery?

    I guess what really angers me is the disingenuous framework within which they operate, like some fundamentalist religious group whose doors are closed to sinners such as myself, and yet open to those who can be brainwashed into rejecting ‘bad’ desires and ‘unacceptable’ behaviour, in direct opposition to the hand nature has dealt them. My take: VP is anti-nature, anti-sex, pro-discrimination, pro-harmful psychiatry.

    “Some people [even amongst BL’s] have effectively ridiculed me, for talking about what they judged to be freakish anomalies…But these experiences were priceless, in what they taught and gave me…You don’t unlearn that type of knowledge.” Absolutely eqf. My childhood experiences were similar; no shortage of pre-pubescent, pubescent and young teenage sexual kicks, and no shortage of willing peers. But childhood should be all about experience and taking risks, learning about yourself and about others, and, despite what society might say, intimacy with peers has to be high on the list of compulsory lessons for cubs. The fact that such behaviour is prosecuted, just shows how mentally deranged society has become, hell-bent as it is on driving a wedge between men and children, and extinguishing a child’s right to express itself sexually and to enjoy its sexuality.

    “I found the dedicated pursuit of holding a mirror up to societies face, very personally satisfying…and necessary…It’s been a very meaningful pursuit to me.” Good for you! I have learnt over time not to be a ‘shrinking violet’ continuously trodden underfoot, but to increase my knowledge wherever possible, sufficient to confront the dominant narrative. I commented recently though on HTOC about the apparent lack of collaboration and cohesion within the MAP community. Unfortunately, it was interpreted as diminishing the efforts of those that do put a lot of effort on an individual basis, but my comment was not meant as a personal attack, rather, pointing out that the absence of cohesion renders us powerless to prevent wholesale discrimination meted out by: the media, the judiciary, mental health agencies, the law, the government, Joe public. One key area, we appear to be totally exempted from human rights legislation. “We need a rejuvenated, radical movement for what we face today.” I agree, but what will be the catalyst? Rhetorical q.

    “I was always attracted to boys, throughout everything…But I never mated with anyone…My penis never went into anybody’s vagina or anus…even though there was penis vagina sex going on amongst some kids I knew.” I understand that a considerate and experienced boy-lover knows that most willing boys appreciate intimacy in all areas other than the exhaust pipe, although to please their lovers, they will sometimes make an exception to this rule. For me, pleasure is derived from giving pleasure, not the taking of it. “I want real children, to represent childhood.” Real children are far more robust than society gives them credit for. Underage boys in particular, so I am told, can be phenomenally lascivious in their needs and desires when the mood takes them.

    “I think he’s against the creation of child porn, but also against the criminalization of possession and distribution of it.” Difficult to tell, given that the interview did not touch on the topic from what I recall, but, my impression was that he slipped in his ‘viewing-of-pornography’ (adult pornography?) experience at age 6, as a potential driver of his paedosexuality over and above any other factor. I find that a strange conclusion to arrive at.

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