David Thorstad, cofounder of NAMBLA, speaking at The Society for Psychoanalytic Inquiry in 2013…


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Date: February 04, 2017

01) David Thorstad, cofounder of NAMBLA, speaking at The Society for Psychoanalytic Inquiry in 2013

02) Full Video From The Start


“Liberals talk about the toleration of sexual diversity as if this were a nearly accomplished fact, yet the psychic characters of many remain dominated by sexual taboos. While these taboos are registered in personal life as anxiety and disgust, they are also manifest publicly in politics and the law. The law sanctions the continued oppression of sexual offenders by enlisting psychological categories of difference and subordination. Prostitutes, homosexuals, transsexuals, pedophiles and zoosexuals populate the fearful dreams of the American mind, while skillful propagandists exploit this fear to control our politics; mob-like persecution and criminalization of same-sex desire and victims of HIV almost passes for normal in many parts of the world, sometimes sanitized as “public health.” What accounts for the persistence of these modern sexual taboos, even after the liberation movements of the 20th century? Are psychiatric categories, like ‘phobia,’ relevant to understanding the problem? What forms might sexual emancipation take today? This panel brings together analysts, scholars and activists to examine and debate these questions from the perspectives of anthropology, critical theory, psychoanalysis and jurisprudence.

Erik Brodnax, Bernard Harcourt, R. Dennis Shelby and David Thorstad, Greg Gabrellas (moderator)

Educational objectives: At the conclusion of the program, participants will be able to: 1) Analyze the relation of sexual taboos and law from perspectives of anthropology, critical theory, psychoanalysis and jurisprudence; and 2) Compare different approaches to advancing sexual freedom.”

Aside from blind bigotry…I’ve never understood why NAMBLA founders [and leaders] have been so badly attacked.

They’ve always come off as decent, articulate, conscientious, intelligent and caring human beings.

Whatever other people are seeing…I have to believe, it is all in their own heads…and has nothing to do, with the objective world.

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4 thoughts on “David Thorstad, cofounder of NAMBLA, speaking at The Society for Psychoanalytic Inquiry in 2013…

  1. feinmann0

    “I’ve never understood why NAMBLA founders [and leaders] have been so badly attacked.”

    Because they promote an invalid sexual orientation that 99.99% of the Anglosphere population have been encouraged to believe is a malevolant disease that must at all costs be eradicated.

    NAMBLA is indeed a courageous lone voice, and yes, David Thorstad comes across very well in this Inquiry, in fact knocking spots off the other two speakers. Another articulate pro-reduction of age of consent speaker was Edward Brongersma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwgpByoO37Q

    Even humanitarians here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8E7kkL8W4 who claim that ‘the very vision of government burning books is so deeply offensive to the central premises of liberal theory and the dignity of the participation of the human in the democratic process, that it doesn’t matter what books are being burned, and obscenity regulation is the equivalent of book burning and therefore deeply offensive to the foundational social contract of liberal thought’ reservedly acknowledge the natural propensity of a child to behave sexually via sexting etc., but simultaneously rage about increasing amounts of child pornography as if there is a massively expanding industry deriving huge financial profit from the exploitation of sexually abused children.

    So long as those best-placed to challenge the hypocrisy, propaganda and lies designed to suppress child sexuality, embrace the very same hypocrisy, propoganda and lies, then there will be no change to the status quo.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      I have the first video linked from here…But not the second…and thank you, for that…I’ll check it out later.

      Of course, you are correct. Many people have extremely distorted views about all of this…And most of us are not in a position, to cause great change.

      What kind of struck me, is David’s apparent attitude…As in…I don’t want to put words into his mouth, but he obviously does not see NAMBLA as a way forward…and seems to have turned away from the organization…and maybe even the fight.

      It’s understandable…but still…sad.

      There’s something very sad about that.

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      1. feinmann0

        This is the first time I have heard David Thorstad speak, and admit to not having followed NAMBLA particularly closely over the years. I did not sense him putting forward any view of NAMBLA (in his presentation ) other than to refer to its formation in 1978 as a result of oppressive events such as Anita Bryant’s 1977 “Save Our Children” campaign plus the police raid of a Toronto-area newspaper, The Body Politic, for publishing “Men Loving Boys Loving Men.” Maybe I missed him suggesting NAMBLA is not the way forward?

      2. eqfoundation Post author

        Watch the Q&A part that follows his talk. He touches on this a bit.

        He talks about having a naivety, back when forming NAMBLA…and makes it clear, he now believes society cannot be changed, by that method of influence.

        He may be right…But I think NAMBLA is still useful [potentially vital] as a maintainer, and builder, of BL culture.

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