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Stefan Molyneux: What is Sexual Freedom?…and other thoughts…

Date: February 27, 2017

Please excuse that this isn’t well formatted, and it’s a short hodgepodge of responses, which is likely to miss a lot of what else is offered in this video…Stefan Molyneux can be a goldmine of things to respond too…But I don’t have the time, or inclination, to set through this entire video right now…

I went through my phase of watching his videos, three or so years back…It wasn’t a long phase…and I am totally over it…I don’t generally pay attention to them, anymore.

01) MILO

“Milo Yiannopoulos stood tall for free speech, and against the puritanical language fascism of political correctness. As a good-looking, ridiculously articulate gay man, he could have found a comfortable place to nestle in leftist cliches, and would have been welcomed by the establishment with open arms. Instead, he turned his considerable charm, talents, humor and intellect on the enemies of free thought and free speech – helping to provoke and reveal the violence and hatefulness of dangerous and powerful elements within Western society.

And now, he stands on a precipice, which we really need to examine in detail.

In the span of 48 hours, Milo Yiannopoulos has fallen from grace in the eyes of many. He has lost his quarter million dollar book deal, he has resigned from his influential position at Breitbart, and been disinvited from his prestigious speaking engagement at CPAC.”

The “alienation” myth:

Well…this is quickly going down hill.

You imagine that a prime factor of our chosen associations with children, hinges on whether or not we can “alienate” the child from their family?…Really?…Honestly?…You believe that?

This is rhetoric…plain and simple.

Here Stephen is, trying to put forward the novel argument…that because adolescents are going through heavy hormone changes [and their mind is not fully formed…a common, yet irrelevant, claim]…they are not actually free, in any choice to pursue sexual relations…because they are bound by their biology, to do such things…

So…you’re not actually free, because you are biologically predisposition to do these things?…

You’re “wrestling with puberty and approaching adulthood”…and you want to have sex, a lot…So, when sex presents itself, this is some kind of bondage…or entrapment…?!…

…That is curious logic.

Freedom is only a right to say “no”…balanced with a right to say “yes”…

If you don’t have these two options, existing in equal measure…then there is no freedom.

When a need is there…and you have a chance to fill that need…being inhibited from filling that need, is the bondage and entrapment.

I totally get why people dislike Stefan Molyneux:

…And I don’t say that because of this one, isolated example of strong disagreement…

…I say it, because I’ve noticed what a lot of people have noticed…this kind of self aggrandizing guru aura, he seems to place upon himself…as some possessor of the moral compos.

He can be very interesting to listen too…very charismatic…and has a good voice for this type of thing…

…But he falls into a lot of the same social trappings, as anybody else…His intellect isn’t really that amazing, or superior…Which is not the same thing as saying it’s irrelevant…or particularly dumb…

…But when you’ve built your business and life around “The Truth About…” videos on YouTube…it’s just…Stephen does not have “The Truth” about anything, in his own back pocket.

I understand why some people have compared him to a cult leader.

The problem here, Stefan Molyneux, is that you are equating intergenerational love with violence [or at least violation]…And that is where your position falls apart.

Who says that defending a child’s right to chose to exercise their own sexual agency, is not speaking in defense of the child?

Who says that fighting to get the sex fascists out of the lives of every human being, is not speaking on behalf of the interests of children?

Those fascists are treacherous against sexually active children.

Interdegenerational Milo…

Date: February 27, 2017

01) Interdegenerational Milo

“(attempt at a) take on the Milo furore.”

Deluding one’s self, to avoid believing they are a victim:

There are a number of mental gymnastics that “normal” people go through, in order to deny the validity of these kinds of relationships…and this is one of them.

Just completely sidestep the quality and nature of the relationship [as well as it’s outcome], and reframe it as “abuse” by default.

It’s a simplistic and obviously corrupt tactic…but if enough people get behind it, then whomever they decide to designate “a victim” may find it impossible to fight back…especially if they lack an equal or larger group of their own, to stand by them.

Milo has every right to call the relationship in question beneficial, positive, wonderful, etc, etc…whether with a priest, or a drag queen [as the story may have evolved, or happened with more than one person]. If this was his experience with it, then he has a right to clarify it as such.

That it makes certain other people pissy, only points to the fact that those other people have a psychological, and ethical, deficiency…and that they are being aggressive towards minority sexuality, and the people who’ve benefited from it.

Trivializing the suffering of others, by enjoying the experience:

This is another one of the dirty tactics…pitting two unassociated groups, and their interests, against each other…pretending as though the people having a genuinely good experience with their own sexuality, are somehow “in the way of” and “inhibiting” the protection of other people who are being sexually brutalized, or forced against their will.

It is a brazenly false equation.

The only thing that is really happening here…is that people who would be sexually active of their own accord, are being forced to conform to a social norm, with the poor excuse that “they cannot protect victims, without doing this” as the catalyst.

Real victims are being exploited…in order to enforce a moralistic social norm.

We could suggest that the establishment is just too lazy, to put in the work of investigating and making intelligent distinctions…But more likely, it is a combination of this cash cow of forcing people through “the justice system”, and religious moral outrage, and sex panic…and phobia of social change.

Is it selfish for a pedophile, hebephile or ephebophile to say it’s okay?:

Just because something may fit one’s own needs, does not make them “selfish” in talking about it positively…nor render them incapable of giving insightful, valuable and honest opinion on the issue.

I mean…really…this is possibly the only human interaction I can think of…where they essentially forbid you from saying anything positive about it…and they get even more hysterical, if you are at all inclined to take part in such things.

This is all part of the social censorship and concealment…You must repeat the rhetoric…and they don’t allow the people with practical, level headed and positive experience, to take part in the dialogue.

What we get is a subjective, hysterical feeding frenzy…It does nothing but reassert and reaffirm, the skewed and hysterical mindset…and acts as a menacing warning, to anyone who might wish to speak differently.

You knew about this ages ago?:

You know what?…So did I.

…I posted about his appearance on the Joe Rogan show…almost a year ago.

This has actually been floating around out there, for a long time…

…Apparently, those out to get Milo wanted to be strategic in their timing…which says a number of things about them.

Yes, Milo has lost, and lost, and lost…over saying something, that needs to be said:

It says everything about this war on freedom and human sexuality, and the people behind it…when they refuse to face you directly…and the only way they can win, is by making it impossible for you to even fight…or fight back.

Destroying one’s ability to sustain themselves, is a common tactic of these power tripping cowards.

…They wouldn’t even know what to do, if they were confronted with us in masses…and they were actually forced to answer for their own actions…They’d likely be scrambling for any route of escape, while simultaneously soiling their underwear.

…They never actually have to justify their own behavior…They just ride the popular social wave, that’s already been built for them…and throw stones at others, from their point of advantage…pretending that they’re some kind of moral human being.

I guess this guy is a white nationalist…apparently…I may not have a whole lot more I wish to respond to…We’ll see.

A few thoughts:

I would agree, the alt right and Milo were strange bed fellows.

…But I think it was more the young, millennial right, who was embracing him…and they are substantially different where it comes to homosexuality, than the historical right has been.

I almost find it hard recognizing them as being on the right.

“Purity spiraling”?:

I suppose…this did all come back around, to bite a lot of people in the behind…in a sense.

I wouldn’t suggest Milo sacrificed himself, just to be a plant and egg the face of the alt right…but it does make you wonder, what he was doing in allowing himself to be associated with them. Maybe it’s that the alt right is new, and not well defined?

It’s disgusting watching people attack Milo, at his low point:

I fully agree.

I make no excuse for my own harsh words towards Milo, in this…

…I’ll just clarify once more, the framework in which I offered them…

…I’m sick to death of watching people wade into the social issues of MAPs, and causing a spectacle…when they wont even stand by their own words and convictions, in the aftermath.

There was no reason for Milo to even go there, in the first place…But he did, and it cost him big…And now he’s backtracking, and playing “the victim” card [and repeating common rhetoric], to garner public sympathy and soften the blow he is receiving.

What?…is this waffling troll now going to end up a “victim’s rights” advocate, as part of his public penance?

He’s already established, just how quickly he can jump onto that crazy train…when he was previously moving in an opposite direction.

He’s clarified…it’s “anything that’s best for me in the moment”…

Nobody needs an “ally” like that.

This whole thing is just incredulous.

Coordinated attacks:

I totally agree with you…I find this to be amongst the scummiest of social behavior.

It’s a tactic of overwhelming people…It’s often bullying, as well.

Shitty to kick someone, while they are down:

Yes, it is…

…But it’s also a good time for discussion, when something like this comes about.

The shitty behavior of various people, should be dissected…and called out, for what it is.

The better people know how to focus on the issues, while not demonizing Milo for expressing a viewpoint.

To me…this spectacle is clearly about extreme social intolerance…

…and the only thing that condemns Milo…is Milo’s own response to it.

…I guess he doesn’t really care so much about free speech, and social intolerance, after all.

…Very disappointing, coming from someone who’s styled himself as some kind of champion, regarding those issues.

Okay…I’m bailing on this one…I’m a third of the way through…and this is moving way too slow.

I really don’t like these long videos, where people just ramble on…not when it comes to making these sorts of responses…It could conceivably take me three hours or more, to get through this, if there is much meaty substance to respond to…and I don’t have all day for this.

If you see something else deserving comment…please give your thoughts, in the comments section.

Teresa Huizar…


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Date: February 27, 2017

01) The Conversation We Need To Have About Milo, Child Sexual Abuse, And The Myth Of Consent

“In part, I am cheered to know that in 2017, American society still finds defending the rape of children beyond the realm of acceptable discourse. But fascinating as it is to recount Milo’s many other transgressions, his gut-churning comments about child sexual abuse reveal a vile and all-too-common myth: that children can somehow consent to sex with adults. They can’t. Full stop.


It’s heartbreaking to see an admitted child sexual abuse victim like Milo attempt to minimize his trauma by insisting that he chose it. In the world of Children’s Advocacy Centers, where we coordinate the investigation of child abuse and provide services to heal the trauma it causes, we hear it over and over—from the incest victim who has been told by her father that she “came on” to him to the child abused by his coach that truly thought that the person who exploited him loved him.”

So…this high priestess of the Cult of Crotch Politics has used the Milo spectacle, to chant her hyperbole.

You know…putting Milo aside…One of the indefensible wrongs in defining rape so broadly, and consent so narrowly…is that you get these fanatics, who think everybody below a subjective age is destroyed by the taint of sex…and they have no qualms at all, about letting the propaganda horse out of the gate, and totally letting it rip a patch down the track.

…And she’s apparently someone who sustains herself, on the sex abuse industry…lovely

There is nothing new here…Just another fanatic, who thinks they can scream “child rape!” at will, and appeal to their own rhetoric, to outrage their readers…Make people believe, that the conversation she is citing, is something that it was not.

In the context of the original conversation…Milo merely suggested, that maybe thirteen year olds have a right to choice…and maybe they’d experience life enrichment, from making said choice.

…Hardly a scandal, for anyone who can think past a law book, or child rape horror stories…or Victorian morals…or their own weekly paycheck…

…It’s not a scandal at all, for anyone in possession of a tiny bit of human empathy…and some fair, common sense.

Milo…no matter what I may think of his back peddling…He did not defend raping children…and this parasitic woman should be ashamed of herself, for even suggesting such a thing.

She is a prime example, of the very type of people who deserve being de-platformed [and fired, and losing a book deal, and, and, and…]…and have karma come back around, to smack upside her cocky, arrogant head.