Daily Archives: March 29, 2017

M.A. Voice: Issue 20 – March 29, 2017…


Articles and content from Minor Attracted People [MAPs], presented in no particular order and without preference or discrimination. These are diverse viewpoints.

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Date: March 29, 2017

01) Sick Rose: Why the Right stumbles on BL
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02) Šimon Falko: Pedophilia is not a desire

03) Ender Wiggin: Commentary On Milo Yiannopoulos’s Fall From Grace

04) Sick Rose: Beautiful Youths are not a Third Gender
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05) jonasBark: Sitpissy vs. Snowflake
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The Unjust, Irrational, and Unconstitutional Consequences of Pedophilia Panic…


Date: March 29, 2017

01) The Unjust, Irrational, and Unconstitutional Consequences of Pedophilia Panic

“The fear and disgust triggered by this subject help explain why laws dealing with sex offenses involving minors frequently lead to bizarre results.


Sounds like you enjoy sex with kids,” a reader tweeted at me after seeing a blog post I wrote about former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle. It was 2015, and Fogle had just signed a plea agreement in which he admitted to looking at child pornography and having sex with two 16-year-old prostitutes. “You also look like [a] pervert,” the reader added.

That’s the sort of response you can expect if you write about the broad category known as “sex offenders” and suggest that not all of them are the same or that some of them are punished too severely. In this case, I had noted that the decision to prosecute Fogle under federal law, which had been justified by factors that had little or nothing to do with the gravity of his offenses, had a dramatic impact on the penalty he was likely to receive.


It makes no sense to treat possession of child pornography more harshly than violent crimes—more harshly even than actual sexual abuse of children—unless you believe that serious harm is inflicted every time someone looks at the image of a child’s sexual abuse. In that case, a large enough collection of images could equal or even surpass the harm done by a single child rape, so that it could be just to impose a life sentence on someone who has done nothing but look at pictures.

Federal law enforcement officials claim to believe something like that, but it’s pretty clear they don’t. If they did, they would never condone the tactics that the FBI uses in child pornography cases, which include distributing it to catch people who look at it.”


Huge Win in the Battle of Ideas…

Date: March 29, 2017

01) Huge Win in the Battle of Ideas

“We’re taking back the narrative from people who use buzzwords and outrage to silence the rest of us who are trying to have meaningful conversation.”

Those sorts who do this kind of thing, can only advance themselves and their ideas, by creating disruptions and handicaps within the sphere of open dialogue.

This is why things have become so insane and extreme…

…The ideas and causes put forward by these people, are barely even being scrutinized objectively…because so many people are too intimidated, to stand in any perceived opposition.

Of course…this goes both ways…and extreme, right wing hostilities get no pass here…They’ve done an incredible amount of damage…It’s just that another extreme is in the spotlight, that’s spun way out of the realm of sanity.

No matter their political standings…it’s because to few of us stand up against these extremists who are trying to dominate the social sphere, that we end up with all this craziness, and usurped power…

There is a lack of healthy diversity, to temper their extreme viewpoints and agendas.

…This is why people need to set down together, and respectfully discuss social issues, with an emphasis on reaching a fair, honest consensus.

“Winner takes all” political ideology, does not work.

…Demonizing people of different persuasions, does not work.

Those things are based on a self defeating cycle, of unhealthy social ideologies.

We have to learn how to be livable with each other…and that’s just not happening, with these extremist movements.

…In fact, they’re destroying the possibility.


Date: March 29, 2017


Interesting video…Unfortunately, I’m only responding to one portion of it…

I have to question exactly how these social changes effect those intolerant of them…and whether or not these things are more hyperbolic, than substantive.

Humans have a tendency to blow things out of objective proportion, especially when considering social issues which position groups against each other.

Homosexual rights advances are given as an example in this video…

…Given the absolute hostility and intolerance sexual minorities have historically faced [and many continue to face]…you know that a lot of the resistance springs from people uncomfortable with social change…but people who wont really have their lives turned upside down, by the changes.

It’s mostly psychological, and wanting things to stay “as they’ve always been”…or, more accurately, how they’ve been perceived to be “normal”.

Of course…the cognition behind social push back is complex, and multilayered…I would not suggest, that no reason exists to be concerned about human sexual activity…or to expect some level of behavioral standards…

…But does that mean there is no social place for “alternative” sexualities?…or that such sexualities “should” be suppressed?

What is the path it takes, to justify that these sexualities have no right to exist?…in practice?…in speech?…maybe even in thought?

One of the fundamental problems with sexual politics…is that people are way to idealistic, to be genuinely honest…And I mean this, all around.

There are issues surrounding human sexuality, and the inclusion of previously prohibited practices…But they are not issues which will cause the world to implode…They are things which can be addressed.

They are not things to fear and scorn, to the extent that they cannot even be addressed.

That’s the biggest hurdle, right there…So many people just refuse to face what needs to be faced.

SJWs Need Victims!…

Date: March 29, 2017

01) SJWs Need Victims!

“When something is made sacred, it becomes incredibly difficult to think rationally and objectively about it. When SJWs create a group that they identify as ‘victims’ and this idea becomes sacred…watch out!

If you don’t agree, don’t follow along or even ask questions – you are the oppressor!”

Dr. Jordan B Peterson on Why the SJW Ideology is so popular on Univeristy Campuses…

Date: March 29, 2017

01) Dr. Jordan B Peterson on Why the SJW Ideology is so popular on Univeristy Campuses

One issue I would take with this, is if you are locked out of the power structure…or prevented from even influencing the value system.

Sometimes things do get so bad…that the only real answer is to destroy the current order, to make way for something else.

Another issue…is that most people do have personal value systems. The problem arises, where individual value systems conflict with each other.

Taking “one” value system and elevating it to the level of law [or authority], does nothing to alleviate this conflict…In fact, it makes it worse…and often imposes far harsher consequence.

…This, literally, is one of the processes which radicalize groups and individuals who are being objectively oppressed and abused.

Extremism of the state ultimately leads to extremism amongst the oppressed.

This is one of the main reasons, why iron fisted rule is so indefensibly wrong…and why individual freedom is so vital.

You can’t just screw people over all of their lives, and expect that they’re just going to languish on in quiet desperation…There is a breaking point.

Of course…What’s happening on university campuses is so ridiculous, because these commonly privileged young people aren’t even locked out of the system…Social momentum is running in their direction, already…They’re just acting as if it were not.

This is probably the main reason why it is so irritating to me, personally, to understand what’s going on at universities.

They are not being attacked or oppressed…but they’ve dreamed up sad, insane excuses, to claim otherwise…and carry on as though they’re being “so hurt”….

…And they’re often being taken seriously…even relented to…

When you’re in a true oppressed, abused minority…where the oppression and abuse is institutionalized in society and politics…It really leaves a bad taste in your mouth, watching people scream and throw tantrums over non issues…pretending to be “the modern social rights movement”…

These insane loonies have no business occupying that place…They are frauds.

It’s a nasty slap in the face, to people who experience and understand true abuse.