Jordan Peterson on Modern Sexual Confusion…


Date: July 22, 2017

01) Jordan Peterson on Modern Sexual Confusion


“Jordan B. Peterson, Matthieu Pageau and Jonathan Pageau talk about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and its possible meaning and implication for modern times. While sexual liberation has a big emphasis on the social justice front, they also impose contradictory and authoritarian rules for sexual restriction.”

3 thoughts on “Jordan Peterson on Modern Sexual Confusion…

  1. feinmann0

    “Pride Day has turned into Pride Week and that’s turned into Pride Month, and that seems to be pushing against some limit. So fair enough to the civil rights movement that has brought homosexuality into the mainstream. It isn’t obvious to me what integration into the mainstream precisely means, although there has been a lot of talk so far about respecting the rights of gay people but very little talk about what the accompanying responsibilities might be. That actually seems to me to be a problem. I had a letter from a gay guy who has been wrestling with this because he is not sure how to be gay and to be ethical at the same time, because he sees normative behaviour about taking a wife and having children, and can see the value in that but that is not the direction of his proclivity, so he wrote to me asking what he should do, and I don’t know what the answer to that is, but I know that it is something worth talking about.”

    Lucky gays being in a position to collar the market in recognition and respect. Jordan Peterson’s gay correspondent seems to me to be stating the situation for a quadrillion MAPs rather than that of a gay person, given that pushback against public opinion is a thing of the past for the sexual minority that continue to throw paedosexuals under busses.

    Bottom line: our dilemma is also something worth talking about.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      That was a very interesting, thought provoking portion of the discussion for me, also.

      I’ve referenced the “hand in hand” relationship of sexual freedom for children, teens and MAPs, with the varying levels of responsibility, for years.

      It’s one of those elephants in the room…We all love the good times that freedom brings [I’m not just talking about sexual activity]…but the mundane aspects of dealing with real human beings can be…well…mundane…

      Sometimes, I wonder if most humans aren’t more in love with the idea of “what they need and want”, than with the reality of it…And maybe that’s one of the single biggest things that holds us back.

      …But…anyway…

      …Gays as a demographic do hold a lions share of the responsibility, with regards to the backlash against sexual minorities…and against the sex rights movement…

      …Sure…women do, also, but the two largest demographics in existence – women and men – typically love having sex with each other, so not many people are left complaining about it, in a tangible way…

      …Gays, however, are “the queer” alternative…the first step [in many modern societies], to allow something other than “the circle of life” sex…

      …They had their bath houses…their clubs, where you can stick your penis up the anus, of someone you cannot even identify…they slept around like nobodies business, and became the perfect host for HIV/AIDS…

      Despite their acceptance…promiscuous women have unwanted babies, all the time…

      …The people who’ve previously been liberated, have made an utter mess of their own liberation…In the larger picture, anyway.

      I’ve always felt that we MAPs have been endlessly punished, for the deeds of people who are not us…and over behaviors, which we either cannot or would not engage in.

      I love gay people…but it’s a really sore spot for me, that their recent past has turned sexual liberation [even just human rights] into such a nightmare for the rest of us sexual minorities…Yet in the face of this, they continue acting as though they are “pure, innocent angels”.

      Of course…not all gay people engaged in all of that…but their demographic did not behave responsibly…and it killed a lot of people…hurt many countless others, on numerous social and personal levels…

      …In the face of this history…so many of them have the gall, to throw stones at MAPs, and act as though we have hurt them.

      Even if the MAP stereotype [which was created and pushed by moral supremacist zealots] has objectively hurt them…it is absolutely nothing, in comparison to the many ways they have objectively hurt us…What’s happening to them is a social nuisance…What’s happening to MAPs, is utter devastation.

      …But they’ll bellyache endlessly, while most of the world is coddling and congratulating them for being a politically correct homosexual.

      “Bottom line: our dilemma is also something worth talking about.”

      I would argue, our dilemma is in far more dire need of being talked about…It’s not just about fairness…it’s about a necessity, that has become an emergency…while most people are too busy, championing “the gay war”, which has already been objectively won.

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      1. eqfoundation Post author

        You know…Maybe, I’m a bit harsh in saying the liberated have made an utter mess, out of their own liberation…

        …After all…the world continues to turn on it’s axis…We are like any other species…having sex and making babies [even amongst bad parents, and people who don’t want children], is all in our DNA…We have sex, because of our biology…We cannot choose, whether or not we want this drive…We can only satiate it, somehow…

        …Nobody is guaranteed a specific lifespan…Nature running it’s course often resembles chaos, most of all…

        A lot of our problems, result from our refusal to accept nature…And nature, is honestly nobodies fault…

        …But these demographics do still hold responsibility, to be self reflective enough to understand their own role in the larger picture…And they have blame, when they fail to do so.

        There are pros and cons to every demographic of human being…Nobody should be pretending “they are better than…”

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