How America Got Divorced from Reality: Christian Utopias, Anti-Elitism, Media Circus – Kurt Andersen…


Date: October 14, 2017

01) How America Got Divorced from Reality: Christian Utopias, Anti-Elitism, Media Circus – Kurt Andersen


“Americans are inherently a little crazy. But now the crazy is being enabled by politicians in the White House and by the internet. How exactly did it get so bad?”


Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire:

6 thoughts on “How America Got Divorced from Reality: Christian Utopias, Anti-Elitism, Media Circus – Kurt Andersen…

  1. feinmann0

    Kurt Andersen in the second video (Aspen Ideas Festival), was not particularly impressive I thought.

    Question from the audience: “You say we are a very religious country, so why are we acting so ungodly? Why are we treating each other with such great disrespect? Why aren’t we practicing what every religion preaches?”

    Kurt Andersen: “I don’t know.”

    Jeffrey Goldberg: “A very interesting man said a very interesting thing the other day. US Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis was asked: ‘What are the things that worry you the most?’ As Secretary of Defense you would expect him to say North Korea, Iran, and so forth, but he responded by saying: ‘I am really worried because Americans do not seem to like each other any more.’ I tend to believe that part of the answer is the phenomenon of social media which spins everybody up into greater and greater anger, and the ability to silo yourself away completely from people you might not like but might have something in common with.”

    With the above observation in mind, given that people cowardly discriminate against others online without fear of restriction, penalty or sanction, it is little wonder that Mattis harbours the fear he does. Related to this is the tsunami being unleashed upon the world: a whole generation of brilliant texters denied learning face-to-face communication skills.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      I’ve not gotten far in watching the second video, I’m afraid…

      I’ve been working straight for days, and I’m in an exhaustion phase…The longer videos, I keep falling asleep before I get very far into them. I posted that one, because I figured it was related…and I wanted to watch it later.

      I should probably watch both, before commenting…but from what I vaguely recall…

      …I found his recognition of the anti-social nature of much behavior, to be quite in line with my own comments.

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  2. feinmann0

    Hi Yure! Perhaps the quickest way would be to translate: amazon.com/Fantasyland-America-Haywire-500-Year-History/dp/1400067219 (into Potuguese?) and read the customer reviews. The main point Andersen being at the festival was doubtless to sell more copies of his book.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      That is a good piece of resourceful advice…

      …I’m sorry that the second video turned out to be so weak…Normally, these sorts of related inclusions compliment each other…But, I guess it’s not always going to work out that way…Regardless, the first video was relevant and interesting, I think.

      As it stands…I’m barely even remembering what the video was about, so I’d have a hard time summarizing it, without watching it again.

      …I feel I should explain something…

      …I don’t retain specific information very well…This even goes back to when I was a kid…If I hear or read something many times over, I may start to more concretely retain it…But if I’m just reading…I mean…at one point in my life, I could attempt to read…but it’s like I could only recall the last three sentences…and everything I’d read prior to those three sentences, faded into nonexistence…There was no way I could tell you what it was…

      Things haven’t been that bad, for many years…But I can still be in the middle of a spoken sentence, and have my mind completely blank out on me…I frequently forget what I am going to get, by the time I get to another part of the building where what I am looking for resides…

      …If I don’t make comment on something shortly after [or while] experiencing it…then there is not likely to be any comment from me…Or, I’ll have to re-watch [or re-read] it, first…Sometimes, this is a pain for me…

      I go through phases…Sometimes, I’m heavy on commenting and creation of content…Other times, I’m at a low point…

      I’m currently in something of a low point.

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      1. feinmann0

        Sorry to hear that SD. You surely have the option of slowing down a little bit don’t you, if only for your own good. I never cease to be amazed at your productivity here on OLF, but … its just not worth jeopardising your health to maintain such a pace.

        “…I’m sorry that the second video turned out to be so weak…” Not your fault old fruit ;o) I am so used to the excellent Harris, Peterson and Saad etc.; Andersen was really not in the same league IMHO. Even so, the discussion was interesting – yet another slant on why the US has gone stark raving bonkers in recent times.

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