Charles Manson dead at 83…

Date: November 20, 2017

01) Hippie cult leader Charles Manson dead at 83

“LOS ANGELES (AP) — Charles Manson, the hippie cult leader who became the hypnotic-eyed face of evil across America after masterminding the gruesome murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others in Los Angeles during the summer of 1969, died Sunday night after nearly a half-century in prison. He was 83.

Manson died of natural causes at a California hospital while serving a life sentence, his name synonymous to this day with unspeakable violence and depravity.”

What is there to say?…

…I never revered him…though I did find some of his dispositions he was born into, and some of his resulting cognition [and honesty] on society, to be sympathetic.

This honestly is a guy, who was “raised by the system”…

I know it’s unrealistic, to expect everybody can turn out okay…or that “the system” even has that kind of power…

…But, I’ve commonly seen people like Charles Manson, as being direct products of “the system”…

It’s a system which expects and demands that everyone conform, on every level of life [including those dealing with simple survival]…when it’s known all along, that many people simply cannot conform…and there is no place allowed for them…It kills and degrades those people, to live their life in subservience to this…Countless people become unstable, under the stress…and we get predictable outcomes.

It’s an absurdity, wherever humans behave as though they own portions of planet Earth…If anything, planet Earth owns us, as animals inhabiting Earths life sustaining atmosphere…As such, we all have equal right to Earth’s resources…just as wild animals have right to them.

…It’s an absurdity, to imagine anything can control any species…especially one so complex as humans…

…And while the system continues to dominate and degrade, in attempts at attaining such a fools goal…it continues to create “Charles Manson’s”, of varying sizes, shapes and degrees.

I don’t know if any model of system even can exist, which avoids doing this…

…But it does seem to me, that we need to keep striving for something a hell of a lot better…than what currently exists.

2 thoughts on “Charles Manson dead at 83…

  1. feinmann0

    I think it is also worth commenting that Manson experienced what can only be described as a traumatic childhood: a mother that went on drinking sprees lasting days at a time, losing his mother to prison when he was just 5 years old, and gaining her again when she got out three years later. He lived in a rented room at age 14, with his survival depending on burglaries and thieving.

    A parallel story perhaps is that of the Thompson and Venables boys in the UK who, when aged 10, abducted, tortured and placed two year-old James Bulger on a railway line where a train later cut the toddler in half. Both boys experienced dysfunctional family homes.

    From the Guardian Newspaper in 2000: “Robert Thompson was a member of what can only be described as a terribly dysfunctional family. The fifth of seven children, he proved as difficult to his mother as the rest of her progeny. The mother had been deserted by her husband five years before the killing of Jamie Bulger, and in the week after he left the family home burned down in an accidental fire. Left on her own, she sought consolation in drink and was often to be found in the bar in Higson’s Top House rather than looking after the children in her chaotic home. There it was bedlam. Notes from a case conference on the Thompson family. ‘The report is a series of violent incidents, none of them on their own enough to justify the kids being taken into care but the sum of them appalling. The boys, it’s said, grew up afraid of each other. They bit, hammered, battered, tortured each other.

    The Venables household was also fraught, but contrastingly so. While Susan and Neil Venables lived in separate houses a mile apart, they tried to bring up their children in a united way – Jon spent Sunday to Thursday with his mum and the rest of the week with his dad. But things were difficult. Jon’s brother and sister both had learning difficulties and were being taught in separate special schools, while Jon himself was hyperactive and always playing up. It was Jon Venables, not Robert Thompson, who had a record of violence, having attempted to throttle another boy at school. In January 1987, the police were called to Susan Venables’ home because the children (then seven, five and three) had been left alone for three hours. Case notes observe that her ‘serious depressive problem’ made Susan Venables suicidal.”

    1. eqfoundation Post author

      I’m often reminded of this clip, whenever you hear about these kinds of cases.

      It’s not that parents can be expected to be perfect…It’s that a lot of them just shouldn’t be parents, at all…and they come to this revelation, long after it’s too late.


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