PEDOPHILE COMMITS SUICIDE (MUST SEE)!…


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Date: May 23, 2018

01) PEDOPHILE COMMITS SUICIDE (MUST SEE)!


“I want to make two things clear: I am suicidal because sometimes the situation seems hopeless; not because I am ashamed of who I am.

Also, I do appreciate the support I receive online. I do see you as human-beings who are interesting and we have formed emotional bonds but it’s just not quite as fulfilling as if our relationship was in person.

Furthermore, does anyone know if it’s possible to take the state to court for enforcing unjust laws? You know, the evidence is there to show that this is the case. If we could just come together and prove it.

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Video is for philosophical purposes. I do not condone breaking your country’s law or harming any person.

Revolutionary suicide does not mean that I and my comrades have a death wish; it means just the opposite. We have such a strong desire to live with hope and human dignity that existence without them is impossible. When reactionary forces crush us, we must move against these forces, even at the risk of death. We will have to be driven out with a stick.”
? Huey P. Newton, Revolutionary Suicide”

I’m hesitant to post this…but, this is real…this is reality…and the world should see this.

For the record…MAP is not a term we have been saddled with by the medical community…

…It’s a neutral term, which got it’s genesis probably upwards of fifteen years ago…in the BL/GL community…Some believe it can be traced back to Michael Melsheimer…a BoyLover, who was a resident [in the BL community] activist for humane mental health services for BLs and GLs…He suffered from mental health issues, himself.

“Minor Attracted” was a stigma free terminology, which covered every variation [nepiophile, pedophile, hebephile, ephebophile] of our type.

A number of us unified under the acronym MAP [originally, MAA (Minor Attracted Adult)], because we realized from experience…some BLs and GLs cannot take the psychological stress…and need the professional support…

…They should not have to suffer in silence, when they need help…

…If we can ease this for them, regardless of whether we believe everything is perfectly ideal…it is most ethical to assist them.

Don’t Commit Suicide:

Yes…Life is terrifying…

…Taking these types of stands, is terrifying…and most people will never comprehend what you endure in it…what it takes from you…the many ways it changes you…how it injures you…

…or how it ever possibly could be worth it.

…Dying is not the answer.

…We will die soon enough.

Dying to soon, will preempt the actual fight.

Dying is retreat.

He is right:

This is a common sense thing…

…These things are self evident, to any honest mind that looks and sees.

…This war should not even exist before us.

No educated sane mind, would choose for the world to be like this.

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8 thoughts on “PEDOPHILE COMMITS SUICIDE (MUST SEE)!…

  1. Yure

    When Hikari and I wrote the guide, our goal was to make pedophiles in particular and MAPs in general to feel better about themselves and see it as a minor personality trait. If MAPs see it as a big deal, they are more likely to feel hurt more often. If you see it as something small, a characteristic like all others you have, it would be eaiser to see yourself a wholesome being, rather than just “the pedophile”. I’m not saying this meaning that pedophilia is something to be forgotten about, but just to prevent damage to self-esteem.
    As for the term MAP, the first time I saw something like that term was on B4U-ACT, when it was already ran by Krammer, who uses a similar term (MHAM) to define homosexual attraction to boys. For a while, I thought that Krammer was the author of the term.
    If I were to give an advice to a sucidal MAP, I think it would be seeing things like a Brazilian: notice how the situation can be comical. I sometimes manage to laugh at my own situation, laugh at the counter-arguments, write comedy fiction about MAP issues and things alike. You know? Trying to remain light-hearted. The tyke who runs Consenting Humans would agree with me, he even wrote three posts about “paedo humor”.
    When he says that he is suicidal because it sometimes looks like a lost cause, then he will only feel rewarded by his activism when it starts giving fruit. But if you try to see reasons to rejoice in the meantime, the wait will be more tolerable. I mean, people are bigots, they are hard to get along with, full of themselves and there are big names out there to get you. If you can’t at least find a reason to have fun in all that nonsense, you will burn yourself out.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      “If MAPs see it as a big deal, they are more likely to feel hurt more often. If you see it as something small, a characteristic like all others you have, it would be eaiser to see yourself a wholesome being, rather than just “the pedophile”. I’m not saying this meaning that pedophilia is something to be forgotten about, but just to prevent damage to self-esteem.”

      Good insight…I’ve never seen myself as just the pedophile…And a large part of the reason, why I’ve always had a range of issues and interests involved with my online projects, is because I’m human…and these things are part of my human life…and as a human, I like to explore, celebrate, mourn, whatever, them…just like any other human being.

      Discuss and persist in things which are important?…yes…

      …Fixate and obsess over one aspect of life?…no…

      “For a while, I thought that Krammer was the author of the term.”

      You may be right…it’s kind of lost to history, I think.

      “If I were to give an advice to a sucidal MAP, I think it would be seeing things like a Brazilian: notice how the situation can be comical. I sometimes manage to laugh at my own situation, laugh at the counter-arguments, write comedy fiction about MAP issues and things alike.”

      Yeah…Never take yourself, or the world around you, too seriously.

      I’ve done similar things myself, in my own writing…I’ve written a small number of silly stories…and I went through a phase, where I was writing over the top boy erotica…I wish I still had it in me, to write like that.

      I used to cycle between phases of depression and surging activity…and for about three years, the depths and range continually became more, and more extreme with every visit…most especially the depression…Back when I bottomed out, about five or six years ago…it fundamentally changed me…probably because I could no longer keep enduring it…and there was nothing left to strip away…I had to evolve in a different direction, or die.

      While I don’t like to believe I’ve become cynical [and I probably haven’t]…I think one of the things that’s hardest to get across to most people…is just how much I do, genuinely, laugh at the world around me…

      …And, I love LSM, and his blog.

      “But if you try to see reasons to rejoice in the meantime, the wait will be more tolerable.”

      Exactly!…

      For any onlookers wondering why something like IBLD and Alice Day continue to be observed by a smattering of us in this world…That is one good summary.

      We have our days of joy and celebration, because there are still so many things to be happy and thankful about.

      …We still have our community dignity and customs…We still have things, which bring our lives meaning, and make us happy…if only we are willing to see it, and accept it.

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  2. feinmann0

    “…some BLs and GLs cannot take the psychological stress…and need the professional support…

    …They should not have to suffer in silence, when they need help…

    …If we can ease this for them, regardless of whether we believe everything is perfectly ideal…it is most ethical to assist them.”

    Great in theory if the professional support exists. And even if it does exist, how far can one trust that support not to divulge the confidential information you impart to them?

    In the UK, where the Youth Liberation narrator undoubtedly lives, there most certainly was NO professional support for me when I needed it not too many years ago. When I was suicidal for much the same reasons the narrator discussed and more, my National Health Service doctor advised me to seek support from a nearby National Health Service mental health centre. I took his advice, but after four interviews with mental health professionals at that Centre, I was told they considered me to be a risk to society, and had reported me to the police. This was three weeks after they had categorised me as being at significant risk from suicide. That very day I attempted suicide. Why? Because the very last people I could possibly turn to for help, people whose job it is is to safeguard patient medical confidentiality, preferred to discriminate against me on the basis of my sexuality rather than safeguard my life. I tried to take my case to the European Court of Human Rights subsequently, but no UK lawyer wanted to deal with me to facilitate this.

    I also feel that the absence of any real-life intra-MAP support group is a major problem for MAPs. Online discussion and contribution is absolutely NO substitute for meeting people face to face when building trust and communicate profoundly becomes possible. Listening to the narrator breaking down in the video, suggested to me that an absence of support in real life in his case, was really taking its toll.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      I am so sorry, feinmann0…

      “I also feel that the absence of any real-life intra-MAP support group is a major problem for MAPs.”

      I agree…We should have chapters around the world…in every community.

      I’ve never sought psychological services over this…in large part, because of the exact same things you speak of…in addition, I’d likely have to pay for it out of my own pocket…as the VA doesn’t likely deal with this…and our health system is particularly barbaric, for being “first world”…It’ll bankrupt you, personally.

      I know this issue of paving a way for MAP mental health, is a complicated and painful one…but I’ll try to summarize what I last said about this on BoyChat…

      …When it comes down to a choice…of one of my BL/GL buddies killing themselves or running off in a frenzy and doing something stupid [that might hurt a child]…or walking into a clinic, where the worst things can be avoided…I will always choose to have the option before them, to seek sanctuary in some place.

      I will never choose to deny that option…and I think we need to work, to make it an honestly good option.

      There are a myriad of reasons why a MAP may have such terrible problems…reasons falling outside, of the mere fact that we are MAPs [for example…I’ve had an almost life long struggle with health issues, which have caused me at times “catastrophic” anguish and turmoil, for never being able to break out of the ways it limits me]…We should have the same, equal rights of anybody else in this world, to get the support we need…when we need it…without endangering ourselves in the process.

      I agree with you…things shouldn’t be this way, in the first place…We should have our own associations and agencies…As MAPs, we should have peer support…not social handlers…

      For as long as I’ve been around…and as many positive things as I’ve seen come into being [and sometimes go away] within our community…we are largely still spinning our wheels…And I don’t know what social structure to turn too, where it comes to a MAP in serious peril.

      I just know that sometimes…something has to be done.

      This is not a clear path to travel…We don’t have a template laid out for us…And much of the community seems either apathetic, or downright hostile, towards doing anything about this serious, under served, overwhelmingly ignored problem.

      I am totally sympathetic to what you say here…I just don’t believe we can stand around and do nothing…and I don’t see anything viable, within the MAP community…not for MAPs in serious crisis.

      I’m all eyes and ears, if anyone steps forward with a solid plan.

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      1. feinmann0

        Thanks for your kind words Steve.

        I absolutely agree that apathy does our community no favours whatsoever, whether due to the fear that accompanies being universally despised, or due to a fundamental emasculation of the angry man wrought by communicating predominantly via the internet.

        On highlighting the problem of MAPathy on MAP blogs, I have been shocked by the hostile response from contributors who take it as a personal attack on the community, and then retort: “What have you ever done for the cause then?” It is as if one crosses over into taboo-land at the mere mention of the word apathy.

        “We should have our own associations and agencies…As MAPs, we should have peer support…not social handlers…”

        It seemed that ipce had in-real-life meetings in Europe up until 2010, for example as discussed here: ipce.info/newsletters/e_29/report.htm. In the absence of any such meetings in the interim, I sought in-real-life meet-ups with individual MAPs around the world. For me this worked really well, although usually it was I taking the initiative. One by one, the contacts disappeared from my life. This year, I was invited to an informal MAP group meet-up in eastern Europe. This may be repeated as a ‘regular’ son-of-ipce event in future. I do hope so.

        “We should have the same, equal rights of anybody else in this world, to get the support we need…when we need it…without endangering ourselves in the process.”

        Agreed. But this only becomes realistic in ‘tolerant, civilised’ countries where danger is minimal. The flip-side: To effect change, rather than run away, one needs to confront the problem head-on. A dilemma indeed.

      2. eqfoundation Post author

        That’s so awesome, you get invited to such…

        …I’ve been invited to some meetups…but, I was never in a personal place, where I could actually go.

        If I remember correctly…during my time with Newgon [really fun to see that mention], it was floated to me that there was an open invitation to attend an IPCE meeting…But, I was not leaving the country…so…

        I don’t so much live near other MAPs I’ve met online…while other MAPs I’ve met online, were part of a relatively large group, concentrated in a general area.

        …I was always a tad envious of that…being the isolated one.

        I’ve met a few BLs, regardless…I’m glad I did.

        “On highlighting the problem of MAPathy on MAP blogs, I have been shocked by the hostile response from contributors who take it as a personal attack on the community, and then retort: “What have you ever done for the cause then?” It is as if one crosses over into taboo-land at the mere mention of the word apathy.”

        Some MAPs have psychological, emotional, self restraint and maturity problems.

        …From time to time…we just run into straight out a-holes…who happen to be MAPs.

        I’ve found myself viciously accosted, even at my ancient stomping grounds of BoyChat, by a fellow BL…by agreeing that I wish BLs and GLs had a common chat board…”Oh, the crime!”…

        The public berating, and implying I wasn’t welcome there anymore was loud…but paled in volume to the silence of other BLs, including those who know me from my deep history with BoyChat.

        They probably didn’t want to deal with the hot head…and figured I was ignoring him…so, why should they bother?…

        …Which is fair.

        I’ve definitely encountered a lot of misunderstandings…some froggy, internet tough guys…and a bit of knifing in the back…over the years…I totally get the distaste, over what you reference.

        I’m not perfect…I’ve had a fall from grace, I expect…maybe I’ve stepped outside my norm, and it wasn’t always a good thing…I don’t expect respect, just because I’ve hung around so many years…

        …but the senseless, gratuitous attacks, from people who are allegedly on the same team as me, will never make any sense to my mind.

        It just hurts us, and works to keep us down.

  3. Gay

    I thank Youth for sharing this. I point out to him that the possibilities for the future are better. A time is approaching when, for at least a short while, the whole world will be able say what we want to say, and pay who we want to pay, no matter who doesn’t like it. Things are going to go very well for him at that time.

    I suspect that Youth has the moral strength to endure the pain and emerge more robust. Pixels aren’t always just dots on a screen.

    In contrast, the VirPeds (and those like them) suffer from an embrace of internalized bigotry, just like the proudly celibate “good” homosexuals they copy.

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