Category Archives: They Who “Know Best”

This kind of “wisdom” speaks for itself.

So…Civil Rights “Ends” with Race, Skin color and “Immutable Character Traits”?…

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Date: October 6, 2015

01) Gay is Not the New Black


I think it is high time that people who think and talk like those in this video explain, why they presume homosexuality to not qualify as an immutable character trait.

Why?…because they have the luxury of ignoring it?…Because it’s [presumably] not happening to them, so they can contemptuously dismiss other people’s life experience?…Pretend it’s not real, because being forced to be something you are not is someone else’s burden?

It sounds like some incredibly ugly contempt going on there.

Let me run something past those of you out there, who think [for example] black people have every right to civil rights, but homosexuals never will…because being black is immutable, but being homosexual “can be hidden”…

Let’s consider one of the most prevalent forms of socially institutionalized abuses, which homosexuals have been demeaned, violated and discriminated against with, throughout history…extreme cultural pressure and expectation, to marry someone of the opposite sex, spend the rest of their lives with them, make and raise babies with them, hide and bury their own true selves and what gives them meaningful joy in life [taken even to the point of terror, over being exposed for who they are]…and basically be an obedient, miserable, mindless drone in somebody else’s “picture perfect” fantasy…because they’ve been beaten down and bullied, into believing they have no other choice.

The fact that a lot of you out there would choose for homosexuals to be paired up with sexual companions of the opposite sex, despite that they don’t even want that…and that you would have them live a life like that…repeatedly having sex they don’t want to have, with a person they don’t want to touch like that…experiencing “sex”, that doesn’t even have any meaning to them…that maybe even repulses them…

…That fully meets my definition of rape…I don’t know about other people out there…but I recognize this practice as institutionalized rape, carried out against sexual minorities.

…And I think this is a totally fair assessment.

Nobody is telling the heterosexuals that they “have to” have sex with people of their own sex, or people they are not inclined or intentioned to have sex with…So, why do they presume a right to do the equivalent towards homosexuals?…that they “have to” have sex with people they don’t want to have sex with?

That’s rape…That is rape, my good readers.

If the shoe were on the other foot…you can bet these same people who imagine “we” can just jump into the sack with people of their choosing, would be screaming that they were raped…or at least sexually violated…They’d probably also claimed to be traumatized by it.

And how, in any way, is this life long experience of being diminished to that [and of being habitually raped]…how is the impact of all that, and the knowledge that you’re living a lie being put through this…that you’re not being allowed to spread your wings and be who you are [and you’re not allowed to live a happy life]…how in the hell is this experience “mutable”, or “not immutable”?

How can you distinguish anything like this, as being “mutable”, or not being “immutable”?

Just because you don’t see it, or you choose not to see it, does not mean it is not real…nor that it does not have real world consequences.

You’re making an assertion, without any basis…let alone any objective basis…And it’s a terribly selfish assertion.

Of course it is a civil rights issue, as to whether or not someone can be with who they love…It is a civil rights issue, whether or not anyone is forced into a life of being raped.

It is down right insane, for anybody to suggest otherwise.


Just for kicks…

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No, “Homosexual Marriage” is Not Explicitly Mentioned In The United States Constitution…

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Date: September 11, 2015

01) Free Kim Davis, Fire Shepard Smith


…But do you know what is explicitly guaranteed in the United States Constitution?

…It is the right of every U.S. citizen, to take part in both government and the structure of law.

U.S. Citizens have the constitutionally guaranteed right, to work through the government and legal system, in order to make it better work for them. They have the right to work towards social and legal change…which includes altering their own social and legal status.

What really gets me…is that so few people behind these “defense of marriage” acts, even understand the true depth of what they did…In fact, they down right trivialize what they did, and behave angrily over it’s predictable fall.

I had one of these folks in my place of work, the other day…They were going on and on, about “the people voted, and the supreme court has ignored us”, and so on, and so forth…and she was all shaken and pissy about it. I couldn’t just leave…I could not really say anything…I was kept a hostage audience to this oral [and mental] diarrhea, for much longer than I should have been assaulted with it…and it was really starting to bother me…most especially this attitude she radiated, of utter contempt towards sexual minorities…her self entitled sense, that she has any right to vote away other people’s right to seek social and legal change.

She even went so far as to say, “Most of them [gays and lesbians] don’t really want marriage anyway, and they don’t want to be where they are unwelcome”…

…Yeah, lady…I’m sure gays and lesbians are “happy” to have you as an authoritative spokesperson for them.

But seriously…I really badly wanted to tell her to leave…Because what she was doing, was extremely inappropriate…especially in that setting…and extended exposure to this contemptuous attitude, was seriously getting on my nerves.

I so badly wanted to tell her to her face, what I am about to tell you…

…”Defense of marriage” was an attempt at alienating entire groups of U.S. citizens, from their constitutionally guaranteed right to better themselves, by engaging government and law…and actually expecting to gain something out of it.

What these “defense of marriage” people were trying to do, is strip people of their rights to have government and law work for them…They saw that these groups were fighting for a specific goal…and they tried to preempt their ability to attain it…effectively forcing a legal ceiling, on certain groups.

This is why “defense of marriage” was unconstitutional…This is why, it had to be shot down by the supreme court.

In fact…these “defense of marriage” acts were criminal acts, according to the U.S. constitution.

You cant vote away that fundamental right, of other people…no matter how much contempt you have towards them.

Will the people who thought it was such a bright idea, ever admit so much?…I wouldn’t bet on it.

…And now we have this Kim Davis woman, who has become this focal point for the righteous outraged to rally around…and spread more of their cruel, nasty ugliness.

I intend to share some links, and discuss a little bit more in regards to her…soon.

There’s plenty more that could be commented on, in this episode of “USA Survival” [as if, I’d ever want or trust these bozos, with the survival of the USA…Under their guidance, we’d all be doomed.]…

By all means…do not miss the “religious experience” side step Cliff and Peter take, when responding to the exposing of Kim’s own train wreck of a marriage life…They are no big fans of owning your own past…not when they have self proclaimed “forgiveness from god”…and religious hocus pocus such as “jesus forgive me!”, to hide behind…Say the magic words, and act as though everything bad from your past no longer exists, huh guys?

They act like critical examination of Kim’s own life behaviors is “out of bounds”, because that all happened “before she came back to god”…and because she makes this religious claim, “none of it matters, anymore”…

…Oh boy!

This is why religious extremists need to stay out of politics…They think nothing of alienating other people from the political sphere…They think it’s the way it should be…and they get angry, when people tell them they cant do that.

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Dialectics: Some Thoughts…


Date: August 22, 2015

I’m returning to the video featured here, because it begs a response.


Here it is, in full.


In a nutshell…dialectics is the practice of changing social perspective, by talking about certain issues or things in an intentional manner. If you don’t like something, you might promote a negative way of speaking about it. If you don’t like people’s hostility towards something, you might choose to start talking about it in a neutral or positive way. The idea is to psychologically push a culture in a certain direction, by exposing it to a persistent positive, negative or neutral message [or tone, if you will].

Now…Debra and Cliff clearly find it objectionable, whenever people with views different from their own employ dialectics…What I’m finding curious, is that they think nothing of employing dialectics in that very episode, themselves.

Cliff has been beside himself over Pope Francis…That pope doesn’t embrace pursuit of the mighty dollar and unrestrained capitalism, enough to keep Cliff happy…In fact, Cliff has made many episodes, decrying how the Pope is calling for social accountability…even speculating that this Pope is “the antichrist”…

…No…I am not joking here.

Cliff cant stand, that this Pope is genuinely concerned about climate change.

I find that fact that Cliff actually goes so far as to call this concern for the climate “worship of the planet”, to be a clear example of dialectics…especially since this automatically sets it up against “worship of god”…a direct conflict with organized religion…Cliff’s religion, anyway.

I have to wonder…are these individuals unaware, that organized religion has an outright notorious history of using dialectics to demonize [and many of us would suggest, dehumanize] certain other groups and their customs?

…Before complaining about the dialectics of others…maybe they should check the plank in their own eyes, before pointing out the mot in the eyes of others?…

…Just a thought.

Pots should think carefully, before calling kettles black.

As to dialectics…I am certain some will suggest, that what I do on this blog is the employment of dialectics…especially as pertains to pedophiles and pedophilia, etc…

…and they would be dead on correct…because I reject the demonizing social narrative and all the hyperbole, in very strong preference of simple honesty…and that practice is very much against the grain, when it comes to discussing pedophilia.

I proudly employ dialectics, to infuse pragmatic honesty into social dialogue about these topics.

…Somebody of principle has got to do it.

Debra Rae Tells Cliff Kincaid What’s Next: “Pedophilia’s Already There”…


Date: August 21, 2015

01) Christians Versus the Global Reds and Greens [from beginning]


Ah, yes…

…the “We own the language, we own the rules, we own love…NOT YOU!!!!” crowd…who cant tolerate anybody, unlike themselves.

For the record, it would probably be best to watch this from the start…to get a feel of what this conversation is all about…And realize, Debra starts off by saying she got her start from reading the bible, and noticing parallels to modern times…

…So…yeah.

This is not the most promising interview, where it comes to questions of sound integrity.

…It’s still fun, sometimes, to peer through the window and see what others are claiming about us…

The “global agenda” allegedly has big plans for us…Amazing.

…And the Kinsey Institute has a “propaganda arm” [SEICUS], that is arguing on our behalf?…Wow.

I strongly suspect there is a lot taken out of context…because I have way too much experience with this sort of thing, to not be left suspecting such.

I’ve not watched the entire episode…and maybe I should, because there might be some more real whoppers left to be seen…

…but I knew various people would appreciate seeing this…even if only for a chuckle.

Cliff asks if “we’ve gotten dumbed down enough to accept pedophilia as a civil rights lifestyle”…

…Well, Cliff…other than to look at you as an alarmist, trying to scare people into action…it astonishes me, that anybody takes this seriously.

You are clearly living in a very different world than I, if you think the world is somehow pulling on our behalf.

…The U.N.?…Good grief!…There has been at least one group within the U.N., that’s been pushing for a universal age of consent to be 21 [twenty one] years of age…Are you and your guest unaware of this?

…And this is supposedly the governmental body, which you expect to usher in an age of adult child sexual relations?…

…Seriously?

Groups representing people like us, were ostracized before the LGBT community was allowed to have an advisory panel to the U.N.

The U.N. has been overwhelmingly toxic and aggressive, when it comes to it’s dealings with people like us.

I’d suggest you two are extremely disconnected from reality, as it is happening in the real world.

You’re just spreading false information.

Chris Christie To Overturn Marijuana Legalization…

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Date: August 02, 2015

01) Chris Christie To Overturn Marijuana Legalization


“Chris Christie’s on the warpath against pot. He appears to think hating marijuana more than other GOP candidates is his ticket to the nomination. He is likely incorrect. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

“AT A TOWN Hall meeting in New Hampshire last night, Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie had a message for recreational marijuana users: enjoy it while it lasts, kids.

“I believe it should still be illegal,” he said. “If you’re getting high in Colorado today, enjoy it until January 2017, because I will enforce the federal laws against marijuana as President of the United States.””

Just another in a plethora of reasons, why Chris Christie is unfit to be in any position of authority. This thug’s political career needs to be over…completely over…in it’s entirety…forever.


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Police are forced to give up investigating burglaries as the cost of hunting paedophiles hits £1billion a year…


Date: July 27, 2015

01) Police are forced to give up investigating burglaries as the cost of hunting paedophiles hits £1billion a year

“A top police officer has admitted that they have scaled back investigations into burglary and car crime because of a massive increase in allegations of child sex abuse.

Norfolk Chief Constable Simon Bailey said police forces were scaling back probes into traditional crimes in an effort to hunt down paedophiles.

MPs have been warned that investigations into child sex abuse will cost Britain’s police forces some £1billion over the next twelve months due to an 80 per cent increase in allegations over the past three years.”

Are there any other “pedophiles” out there, who find it offensive and a menacing threat…when they use the term “hunting pedophiles”?…

This, in my opinion, is incredibly dehumanizing…demeaning…a sign of extreme, venomous and potentially violent aggression…against “pedophiles”.

Anyway…

…I’m finding it interesting, even if expected, that the witch hunt on “pedophiles” is becoming so severe…that the authorities are forced into dereliction of their other [commonly far more important and critical] responsibilities.

…Ah, but that is “progress” in a “progressive” world, for you…

Do you think they will ever figure out, what the real problems in this world are?

Kid Rock Tells Protestors to ‘Kiss My Ass’ Over Confederate Flag…


Date: July 11, 2015

01) Kid Rock Tells Protestors to ‘Kiss My Ass’ Over Confederate Flag

“Even as South Carolina and major retailers officially disconnect themselves from the Confederate flag, the controversial symbol continues to have a prominent presence at Kid Rock’s concerts. On Monday, the National Action Network’s Michigan chapter protested outside the Detroit Historical Museum, which houses a Kid Rock exhibit, demanding that the rocker stop displaying the Confederate flag, Deadline Detroit reports. In a statement to Fox News’ Megyn Kelly, Kid Rock relayed his message to those upset in his native Detroit: “Please tell the people who are protesting to kiss my ass/Ask me some questions.”

As Fox News points out, Kid Rock aligns himself with the Southern pride connotations of the flag and not its racial implications, since Rock’s son Robert Ritchie Jr., is biracial, and as of December 2014, the First Kiss singer also has biracial grandchildren.”

People need to understand when we’ve been dragged into a hysteria…

…and make no mistakes about it…this fury over the confederate flag, and removing it from public display, is a hysteria…propagated by special interest groups, who’ve been waiting for some tragedy to happen which they can seize upon.

Personally…I find myself embarrassed as an American, over this episode.

I wasn’t going to say a whole lot, because I feel like…as relates to the issue of southern states removing the confederate flag from government properties…that is an issue for those states to hammer out, amongst their population. I don’t see myself having any voice or interest in that issue…

…But when this issue infects the entire country…and suddenly, nationwide retail chains want to purge all representations of the confederate flag…and we even get such ridiculous things as the “General Lee” Dodge Charger [from “The Dukes of Hazard”] being banned from television…this whole thing has gone insane.

This exact sort of thing is a very good example, of totally mindless and dangerous political correctness…the kind that just wants to censor and shunt off to the shadows, anything the chronically offended and intolerant don’t like.

Kid Rock has it right, when he tells these people to kiss his ass…because what is going on here, is just wrong…dead wrong…indefensible.

I have no personal connection to the confederate flag…except that it was part of our collective history, in the U.S.

I’ve always thought it looked pretty cool…and I’ve also appreciated it’s rebel roots…

…Despite whether or not everything the confederacy stood for was noble and good…we’ve considered the Generals waging the civil war to be great men of U.S. history…legendary, even…even if a product of their time and environment.

Does it change anything at all…that some homicidal maniac murders several people of a different race, while himself owning a confederate flag?

No…it does not.

The confederate flag means a lot of different things, to a lot of different people.

“The American way”…is not about stealing identity from each other.

What is going on surrounding the confederate flag today…is very much anti-American.

People need to back up…and understand they have no business telling others, that they cannot display the confederate flag.

Minnesota sex offender program is ruled unconstitutional…


Date: June 17, 2015

01) Federal judge: Minnesota sex offender program unconstitutional

“A federal judge Wednesday ruled it’s unconstitutional for Minnesota to keep civilly committed sex offenders locked up indefinitely, setting the stage for major changes to the Minnesota Sex Offender Program.

“The stark reality is that there is something very wrong with this state’s method of dealing with sex offenders,” wrote U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank.

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Observers, though, said the ruling repudiates the way the state treats civilly committed sex offenders.

“It’s a sweeping condemnation of this program,” said William Mitchell College of Law Dean Eric Janus, who sits on the state’s sex offender civil commitment advisory task force.

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More than 700 civilly committed sex offenders had sued the state claiming it was unconstitutional to keep them locked up indefinitely and that they don’t get adequate treatment from the program run by the Minnesota Department of Human Services.

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Dan Gustafson, a lawyer representing committed sex offenders, applauded the federal ruling, saying it “reaffirms that all people, no matter how disliked they are … are entitled to constitutional protection.”

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Over time, Frank has reprimanded the Minnesota Legislature, saying lawmakers had to do something about a program he called “draconian” and in need of “substantial changes.”

“This judge has sent a number of clear signals over the last several years about his concern for the constitutionality of this program,” Janus said on MPR News Wednesday.

“It’s clear that the evidence he heard at this trial confirmed his very clear concerns about the program.””

There are some interesting audio commentaries provided with this article.

Nothing surprising here…the judge says it’s unconstitutional…and politicians continue to behave like politicians…sticking fingers in their ears, while going “La La La La La!”…and not wanting to deal with it.

…We shall see what comes of this.

Of course, it is unconstitutional…and just because Lucinda Jesson claims it’s not, because “the facility is nicer than prison”, and “it is treatment”, does not make it any less false imprisonment…She is just dancing around semantics, and denying the obvious.

Also of note, is the fact that these facilities are said to have serious inconsistencies, in who gets sent to them and how their cases are treated.

As Promised: “America’s Survival News Conference”…

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Date: May 4, 2015

Note: I’ve not watched all of these yet, and I don’t intend on giving a lot of critique to any of these. I did my best in figuring out what sequential order they belong in, and I think I succeeded. You may, or may not, want to watch these…or just briefly skip around in parts of them, to get an idea of what’s going on.

“These” are the sort of thought patterns which arise in some people, when marriage equality and acceptance of gays, lesbians and bisexuals starts to actually get serious…It is sad, to say the least. – Steve


01) How the Republican Party is Going Gay

A lot of self promotion from Cliff, which will also repeat itself later. Haven’t really watched this one yet, but I presume it’s the same Cliff-isms, as he decries all the homosexuals working in the republican party.


02) The DNA Deniers and Same-sex Insanity

Have not watched it yet…maybe parts…Knowing Cliff, this one is sure to go for the “man + woman makes child = marriage” propaganda.


03) Alan Keyes on God-ordained Natural Marriage

Having been subjected to entirely too many of these in my past…I can tell you, this is nothing more than a religious sermon, from a guy playing the part of the political pep-rally preacher.

Not much to see here…I suggest you skip it…at most, move the video tracker around and peak in every ten minutes or so…It is rhetoric, without much redeeming value.


04) James Simpson on Cultural Terrorism

This one gets interesting, as it goes back to what I pointed out in my last post on The Wall…James goes for the “cultural terrorism” angle, and mentions “pedophiles” as part of it. This video is sort of a companion, to the James Simpson video I posted there.

As a pedosexuals…I consider this sort of commentary to be bold faced hate speech.

Oh…and this is also the video where the term “useful idiots” came into play, which I referenced in my last post on The Wall.

This guy thinks we are all a bunch of agents of chaos, being empowered by Marxists…but apparently “we don’t know this”…and they’re going to murder us, once they are done using us all…

Allegedly, we have this juggernaut behind us, propping us up…

…Which leaves me with the questions…Where are the resources?…and where are the protections?…Where is all this benefit, that we are allegedly being given?

My scorecard tells me…that we have been abandoned by most organizations…and left to find our way forward, amongst ourselves…And I’ve been at this, for a very, very long time…

…If all this existed…one would think I’d know the “secret handshake” by now.


05) Matt Barber on the “Sexual Anarchy Movement”

Oh dear…

…This one is short…so you might want to struggle through it…But it’s painful to watch, because Matt’s level of intellect has the depth of a mud puddle. He quotes the bible, and at least one religious leader…

This is just rhetoric…A bullheaded guy, deeply entrenched in his own dogma…It can be dismissed.

…But it’s important to keep in mind, what people Cliff thought important to have speak at this “news conference”…and what content they brought with them.

…Not impressive.


06) The Normalization of Homosexuality, by Peter LaBarbera

I have not watched this one, yet…I expect it’s the same Peter LaBarbera lines, as usual.

Peter has a seriously unhealthy obsession with homosexuals…and constantly attacking “the homosexual lifestyle” [whatever that is].

He is the guy behind “Americans for Truth About Homosexuality”…

07) Americans for Truth About Homosexuality

You can witness Peter on “America’s Survival” [at their YouTube channel, or on Roku], several times over…Where he more less repeats a lot of the same things, over and over.

I do not suggest that Peter never says anything true, nor that he has never highlighted important issues concerning homosexuals…But you scratch the surface a little, and his obsession with abolishing homosexuality is outright creepy. Further, he is just not what I would consider to be honest, when it comes to the biological roots of homosexuality.

…He thinks homosexuals are becoming heterosexuals in droves, because of “reparative therapies”…He doesn’t appear to understand the difference between ceasing activities, and actually losing a biological attraction.

…In addition to this…every time I have seen him live in the past…he has always come off aggressive, almost angry…definitely obsessed. Peter is one of those people you look at, and wonder what the heck is going on behind the scenes, when nobody else is watching.

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False Equation of Pedophilia with Terrorism…

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Date: May 2, 2015

What have I been foretelling for quite a number of years now?…

…If you don’t know, I’m one of the few people out here, who has been warning the pedosexual community to prepare itself for a vicious onslaught, which would entail attempts by some to equate people like us with terrorists…or acts of terrorism.

I saw this trend starting, quite a few years ago…What we have here, is one example of literally what I have been discussing.

Mind you, this concept of “terrorism” being marketed, can take on more than one dimension…For example…some people will claim that because children have been abducted, sexually assaulted and murdered, this somehow makes “being a pedophile” a form of terrorism by default…Others may claim, if you are a pedophile and you try to integrate yourself into society, and engage people with your viewpoints, this is some sort of “terrorism” by way of normalizing pedophilia…Still yet, we have people like James Simpson, who has far grander theories…that we who seek human rights for people like ourselves [ie: sexual minorities], are little more than useful idiots, allegedly “being empowered” by Marxist forces who are using us to create chaos in our culture…to bring about the destruction of our civilization…

…Yes…”The communists are still coming for us, and the religious people are in endless peril”…oh, how things never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever change…


A word before continuing:

I would not normally bring this sort of content here, because these are very deeply religious people, who have a particular viewpoint on “how the world is supposed to be”…and they are quite intolerant of sexual minorities. Cliff Kincaid, Jerry Kenney and “America’s Survival” have been featured a number of times on rightwingwatch.org, and they are considered to be a hate group [note: having watched this show for some time, it is mostly made up of Cliff, Jerry and a rotating handful of frequent guests, including Peter LaBarbera]. They can barely go more than two months, without putting out an episode bemoaning gays and lesbians [and of course, they think poorly of us pedosexuals, too].

I became aware of Cliff Kincaid back in the 1990’s, when I received an offer to subscribe to his newsletter…I presume [or maybe it was literally specified, I don’t remember] that this came about, because of my association with the Gulf War 91 [being a war vet], and Gulf War Syndrome. While I did decline to subscribe, I do have to admit that his was the only voice I am aware of, that was talking about the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks to come. This did pique my interest.

In addition, I also bought and read one of his books…and while it was an interesting read, it was also kind of a hard and annoying read…because it was so deeply entrenched in a hardline, catholic world view…Cliff clearly writes and speaks to a specific sort of audience…of which, I really am not a part. That does not stop me from being interested, in what people of viewpoints different from my own have to say.

Given this past primer…when I stumbled across his channel on Roku, I subscribed…

…Having grown up in the deep indoctrination of the Baptist church, I knew in my gut what to basically expect…I just wasn’t sure what level of freakish obsession I would encounter…And as it turns out, they are pretty feisty, “take the gloves off, and let the fists fly” kind of people…I more less kept watching, out of a morbid fascination…Knowing that whatever I might conceivably want to bring here, would likely only be fit for some post on “The Wall”.

To be completely fair…they do sometimes have thought provoking shows, but I would suggest, those are too few, and too far between.

With the United States Supreme Court hearing the case of gay marriage, this has had Cliff and company in an uproar [and I’ve had my own comments about the behavior of religious groups, in recent days]…and they even did a “press conference” [which sounds like it was attended by half a dozen people…or less]. I was going to just bring the portions of that “press conference” here, as an example of the ludicrous responses to gay marriage going on right now…but I also found this episode of their show…and decided it would fit well here…plus I have some comments to share.


01) Cultural Terrorism Against America


“Investigative journalist James Simpson exposed the Cloward-Piven strategy of collapsing America from within economically. Now Simpson talks about the “cultural terrorism” against America that also has Marxist roots. Simpson, Cliff Kincaid, and Jerry Kenney discuss the upcoming April 21 America’s Survival, Inc. conference, “Crimes Against Nature and the Constitution.”

I wanted to share this for a few reasons…Not only do they go for the “terrorism” angle, as I pointed out above…but they also talk about Harry Hay, and provide some pictures of his “infamous” [“NAMBLA Walks With Me”] march in the gay pride parade, after NAMBLA was ostracized along with a few other groups. They talk about his roots in the very early homosexual rights movement, in the USA…And I find these types of recordings to be a useful resource, because they are talking about factual history…and point out just how reliant all the rights gays, lesbians and bisexuals have today, are on people who were either pedosexuals themselves, or who supported pedosexuals rights and the sexual rights of children. Everything gays, lesbians and bisexuals in the USA enjoy today, originated from the efforts of people like Harry Hay…and from a movement, which considered both children [and teens] and us pedosexuals to be every bit as human, dignified and deserving of freedom and human rights.

…What makes me really, really sad…is that it is these hostile groups, who are the only ones talking about this history, as outwardly as many of us pedosexuals have…Yet, they use this information for much different ends…while the gay, lesbian and bisexual groups don’t want to acknowledge it at all…despite that they owe their existence and rights to it…despite that they launched [what they are today] from the momentum of that movement…

…As a pedosexual, I find myself having to cite and highlight people who are hostile…because the people who should be my natural allies, are too spineless and lacking in integrity, to acknowledge our common roots…And I find that down right tragic and disgusting.

Things should not be this way.

Next…do take note, how they make various comments…

…Supposedly, we sexual minorities are part of a plan to “create a world of chaos”…

…It seems to me, James does not see past his own dogma and hive mentality…Because you see…”a world of chaos” is quite subjective…And to presume that this was not “a world of chaos” all along, I think is ignorant. For those of us who are born into social disenfranchisement, this is simply a hostile world of chaos, by default…and our working to change things for the better, is a response to this chaos all around us…The chaos is not coming from us, primarily…It is coming from the culture, itself…from people who relentlessly attack us.

This really is a matter, about where your starting point happens to be…Just because recent history has catered to religious people like Cliff and James, does not mean that it was moral, ethical or right, in all that it did…It has been down right monstrous towards sexual minorities.

I’d suggest there is a severe lack of human empathy going on, if you think there is little wrong going on, so long as the culture is in line with your own ideology.

…Then there is “the people spoke”…referring to the thirty [or so] states that voted to ban same sex marriage…

…I’ve always taken an issue with people declaring what “the people” said, or believe, or support, or want…Because when it comes to these kinds of issues, where polarized groups latch onto them and make it all about “culture war”…you generally just end up with two groups…the one that gets what it wants…and the one that gets the middle finger…never any compromise or tolerance…or sympathy…things just get nasty.

Claiming the totality of “the people” when claiming we voted to outlaw same sex marriage, implies that a vast number of us are not part of “the people”…Because we voted to allow same sex marriage [and yes, I did do just that], but our voices were given the middle finger [like so commonly happens]…and we were told that “it does not matter, what we value as human beings”…

…Which brings me to another thing stated by one of them…that their [ie: Christian] voices “don’t count”…unless the Supreme Court sides with them…

…It’s always about “their oppression”, but never anybody else’s….Ever notice this?

If they have a problem with anything, it’s “oppression” and some sort of social emergency…Meanwhile, there are any number of groups and individuals, who’ve spent their lives being attacked, walked all over and relentlessly kicked while they are kept down…but there’s not a lot of sympathy for those people…for those “undesirables” who don’t fit into a “Christian world”…

…No, Cliff and company…you are not being oppressed…Your voices are not being ignored…I think we’ve just entered an era, where it is no longer thought that the religious can rightfully lord over other people…Or in other words…the non-religious and the sexually different, have rights and human value, too…These are separate and distinct, from your religious rules…They are not bound by your religious rules.

This is the whole point, of a secular government…In theory, it makes room for all of us to co-exist in relative peace.

I know there was one or two other things I wanted to comment on, but I don’t recall what they were…So, I’ll bring this to a close…with one last comment.

It leaves me almost speechless, encountering the three ringed circus of religious intolerance, responding to something as [from my point of view] mundane as same sex marriage. The question is a no-brainer…and it does not require the approval of religious people, nor their opinions on religious texts. If this is what some people need to make them whole, in a society that thinks nothing of taxing them, tapping them as a social resource and claiming to represent them…then of course, they should have their legal marriage.

…That anyone would claim it “oppression”, or that they are “being attacked”, because they can no longer throw their own weight around, and beat other groups of people down…it is just galling.

Cliff, James, Jerry…you think you’re oppressed?…

…You seriously need to walk a mile, in the shoes of someone like me…That would give you a very healthy perspective, from a place outside of your own…on just how bad true social oppression gets…

You guys are living in a privileged Disneyland, in comparison to so many of the rest of us in this world…And all you can do, is complain because some other group gets a few crumbs kicked their way?

This is the primary reason why I’ve never linked anything of yours here, before…You are just so utterly divorced, from too many of the hard realities of this world…and you cant even see your own dogma, for what it is.

People don’t need your blessing…they need you to stop making more problems for them.


I will link the sections of Cliff’s “news conference”, in a different post.

Addendum:

I just remembered something…

James also refers to “pedophilia” in his speech at the “news conference” he was part of…and he talks about Obama granting clemency to illegal aliens, “for the purpose of importing pedophiles, and creating havoc in the USA”…

…If I am understanding James correctly, then I believe what he is factually talking about, is the lower age of consent in Mexico…and how some Mexicans migrate into the USA as families and couples, when one or both may be legally “underage” by US law.

…In other words, they are likely not even pedophiles at all, by proper definition…and this is likely an exploitation of people’s ignorance, because they don’t realize that this behavior is normal, and accepted, in Mexico…It’s little more than a matter of clashing laws and social norms.

…And when I talk about this, I’m referencing cases like a twenty-something who marries a sixteen year old in Mexico, and then moves to the USA…where he becomes guilty of statutory rape, should he have sexual relations with his own spouse.

A number of years back, just such a case occurred…and as I recall, the man was ultimately released and the charges were dropped…which created a legal double standard, where people from other cultures could break US laws within US borders and nothing would happen to them…while US citizens doing the exact same thing, would end up in prison for years…And we don’t even get the benefit of this practice “in reverse”, should we be visiting foreign jurisdictions.

This leads some of us to believe, that US law concerning these matters, is designed to specifically make maximum number of criminals, out of the US population…and it shows us the true resolve of the “justice system”, to protect minors.

Personally…I am very disappointed that this issue has not come to a head, yet…Because things cannot linger like this…If this behavior is illegal for everyone in the USA, then it is illegal for everyone…If it is not illegal for some, but illegal for others…then this is a mighty severe lack in equal protections, and in the equality of exercising rights…and in the area of “underage sex”, of all things.

…Who’d have ever imagined, that this would fly?…or that there would be supporters of it?

I say…if anyone can come here and violate US law, claiming the protection of “native culture norms” [ie: “It’s normal and legal where I come from.”]…then US law has no business interfering with US citizens who do the exact same things, in “the land of the free”…It is creating vastly different legal classes of people.

…There is nothing at all constitutional, legal or ethically correct about that.

…And I’ve been wondering when this issue was going to come back around again, and really get the fur flying.

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