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…A bitter, angry, male sexualist incel lashing out?…Choosing to designate “enemies”?…
“No. I’m not saying something absurd. MAPs harm us.
The reason is simple. Those fuckers made the effort of connectiong normal sexuality to pedophilia.”
Get this into your head…Human Sexuality Does Not Belong To “You”…You Do Not Hold Domain Over Human Sexuality!…
This may come as a shock to you…but, in the spectrum of human sexuality, pedophilia is normal…It’s always been there…even if marginalized. Pedophilia is an inherent part of human sexuality…It always has been.
We never needed to make any effort to connect the two things…They are one and the same by nature.
And, no…We are not harming you…You are just falling for one of the big lies, and trying to take a swipe at us in retaliation.
First…learn who the true enemies are…Learn what a lie is…Learn where a lie is…Learn who is lying.
…Don’t join in with the liars.
“MAPs make it seem as if that 28 yar old guy is the same as a 40 year old guy manipulating a 7 year old boy into sucking his dick in a dark alley.”
Oh!…That’s “not” leading or tainting “at all”…
Thank you for the strawman…Be careful…It shows the quality of your character and integrity.
“No. It is not the same. A 30 year old man courting a 15 year old female and taking her to a restaurant for a romantic dinner is extremely different to a rich bastard paying big bucks to fuck a 9 year old boy in a shady underground bunker built by a Jeff who didn’t terminate himself in jail.
But MAPS make it the same.”
Okay pal…That is complete bullshit…You are a liar…A bitter, sad, defeated, pathetic liar, grasping at anything to try making yourself relevant.
Firstly…find me MAPs who even support “manipulating a 7 year old boy into sucking dick in a dark alley”, or “paying big bucks to fuck a 9 year old boy in a shady underground bunker”.
That is ruthless character assassination…Shame on you.
In every community I’ve ever been involved with for the past 20 plus years, these sorts of things have always been roundly condemned…and recognized as a major threat holding us back.
You have a lot of gall, equating those things to us…pretending as if we support them.
Pedophiles are generally a lot more humane and respectful towards children than that.
In addition…did Jeffery Epstein even have nine year old boys involved in that mess?
The only thing I’ve ever encountered, is testimony from teenage girls.
Enlighten me if I’m wrong…but that whole thing was catering to ephebophile rapist tendencies…not pedophilia.
I may be wrong…but aren’t you an ephebophile?…It seems to me, if we are going to go down this road…the “Epstein Circle” is more your people, than mine.
…Maybe you should own them, instead of trying to dump them in the backyard of pedophile MAPs.
“MAPs are “attracted to minors” but minors is such a wide range. Anyone under 23 (One of the highest ages of majority) could count as a minor. But a prepubescent is not the same. A child is not the same.”
Prepubescent children are still designated as “minors”…If you don’t like that, then take it up with the lawmakers.
…And MAPs have every right to ally, with whomever willingly allies with us.
We were not, however, allied with rapists…No matter how much people try to make it seem so.
“MAPs made it look like the same. MAPs make us all look like pedophiles. Therefore I disavow, and reject MAPs. Because I don’t want normal male sexual preference to turn guilty by association with pedophilia.
I vocally oppose MAPs because they will damage our natural sexuality.
It is your folly, and your loss…
…Though, to be honest…I would not accept you as an ally…especially after this outburst…So, I guess this is also a gain for MAPs…We need not worry about a backstabbing from you. Very good! 🙂
“Listen, you filthy pedophiles. Anyone who isn’t a pedophile can tell the difference between a 4 year old, a 10 year old, a 12 year old, and a 17 year old.”
Well…this one has started off quite provocative.
“Actually let me rephrase that. Anyone who isn’t a pedophile can tell the difference between a child and whatever is NOT a child. That is, a child has no secondary sexual characteristics.”
I don’t know where you are coming up with this lie of yours, wherein “pedophiles cannot tell the difference in human Tanner stages”…
…Apparently, you do not understand what pedophilia even is…because Tanner stages are literally vital to the whole orientation.
The differences between infants, toddlers, young children, adolescents and teenagers, is among the oldest conversations in BL/GL communities.
We know there is a vast range of difference…We do make distinctions…We do have clear orientation preferences…We acknowledge that prepubescent children are prepubescent children…while adolescents and teenagers are not prepubescent children…
…And yet…despite our differences…most of us have no qualms about associating with each other…because we are decent, humane people…and we wouldn’t throw one another under the bus.
It’s an informed, mature, rational and decent stance to be in.
The world isn’t going to step in and “save us”…So, we have to do for each other, what the world refuses to offer or allow us. We have to be the support for each other, that the world refuses to give us.
That is worthwhile…And I’m pleased to have hebephiles and ephebophiles as my friends, while personally being a pedophile.
You seem to be under the impression that MAPs equate prepubescent children with adolescents and teenagers…
…As previously stated, we do not…
…It’s just that some of us realize, that even prepubescent children can possess a capacity and drive for certain types of sexual activity.
Human sexuality, by its nature, is not limited to the pubescent and post pubescent…It’s inherently within us all, regardless of age or Tanner stage…
…We just have a really serious, overbearing problem with cultural mass denial…which refuses to acknowledge the obvious…because they don’t want it to be true.
I submit the opinion…that it is better to see things as they are, so that we can better handle them as a culture.
You, apparently, have again bought into the lies and the denial…This helps nothing…This moves nothing forward…
…And you wont help yourself, by working to hurt MAPs…You’re just releasing injury and hate into this world…Nothing more.
Burn to many people…to many bridges…and people will come to know you for that…It will follow you.
“Well. Not I. I won’t form alliances with anyone but my own, even though I won’t attack anyone directly unless they trample on my goals.”
…You already have attacked, dear…And it’s no shock, that you are so self centered.
Our goals are not in conflict…It is another one of the big social lies, that we supposedly “are” in conflict.
…You’re falling for the lies and manipulations, of those who abuse, divide and conquer.
…You shouldn’t be wagging your finger at MAPs…You should be shouting back at those assholes, who are viciously lying about all of us and trying to pit us against each other…They are the true source of the problem…Not MAPs.
If you were perceptive and informed, you’d have known this long, long ago.
…But you choose the easy route, of siding with the bullies…in order to get accepted by the bullies.
Your quality of character and intellect, is exactly why I will never have anyone like you in my inner circle…You’re not worthy of even my trust…let alone, my respect.
“I have seen how the entire male sexualist movement falls apart as its figureheads go into hiding or take stances which actually benefit the real enemy of men.”
Ah, yes…The sad, male sexualist “movement”…which tried to ride the coattails of MAPs, only a few years back…
…Oh!…Excuse me!…That’s tried to recruit MAPs to inflate their numbers, do their bidding and stay quietly behind the scenes…betraying the MAPs own voice, their own rights…their own goals…Yeah, what was I thinking?…You didn’t want equals you had to respect…You wanted minorities that would be your subjects…People you could control, even while looking down upon.
It’s no surprise you’re in shambles, a mere few years later…Your “movement” is a farce.
MAPs have at least an established network and presence…We have knowledge, and a sense of self worth and power…We have real world resources.
“Male Sexualists”?…You have a lot of arrogant, pompous claims, backed up by spineless retreat, bitching, whining and crying…
It’s sad, really…People like you behave as the lap dog of the establishment [which persecutes and torments all of us, man, woman and child]…in hopes the establishment may one day throw you a tiny bone of appeasement. Do you even comprehend how they manipulate you?
Your “leaders” didn’t have the fortitude, to take a difficult stand and stick by it…Maybe…Maybe they’re just a bit to close to “normal”…Maybe when they saw a chance to bail out, they decided they could live with what was allowed to them…
…Maybe, MAPs are so hardened, stubborn and strong…because we never even came close to having that option of being “normal”…Maybe that’s exactly why we don’t crumble and run away, no matter what gets thrown at us.
Maybe the difference…is that we MAPs literally do live on the cutting edge, of people who have been stripped of everything…people who have nothing to lose…Yet people who know their own worth…people who know themselves and their nature…people who realize what is happening to them is dead wrong…indefensible.
MAPs have numerous giants, who stand up against it all…sometimes even on their own…for years…decades…
…This probably causes resentment, in those “male sexualist” incels who understand the reality of it all.
Your post is really convoluted…I’m done responding.
Date: July 29, 2016
Some people might be wondering what this post was all about…
Here is the history:
This is really the story of three different groups…
…One group being the BoyLovers of BoyChat…the other two being the group of fanatics that made up “Perverted Justice” [Yes, the Dateline NBC “To Catch a Predator” people] and elements of “Absolute Zero United”.
Perverted Justice [PJ] was a hate group, which targeted “pedophiles” [or Minor Attracted People]…Absolute Zero United [AZU], was a group of the same nature.
A few AZU members had a history of being moles on BoyChat…Two in particular, displayed a sociopathic and predatory obsession with stalking and outing BoyChatters…They were posting on BoyChat for years…and really badly hurt some people.
BoyChat is an online posting chat board, which historically existed for the purpose of providing community and emotional support, for Minor Attracted People [MAPs] who are sexually attracted to boys. The behavior allowed on BoyChat was [and remains] soundly legal…and the community was on board with this objective, with exception to the rare outlier…who would either conceal what they were doing…or they would eventually find themselves banned from BoyChat, if they ever attempted to bring it there.
BoyChat was never a hub for criminal behavior…It was a community hub, for emotional and psychological enrichment…It was a place for communication with peers…and sometimes, with outsiders. For many of us writers…it was a place of personal journey, and personal discovery…
What BoyChat allowed us…was life changing…We finally found ourselves, because of BoyChat…and it was utterly beautiful.
PJ was a group that was out there…We at BoyChat knew about them, well before they became famous from NBC. They would conduct stings in online chat rooms, collect information on people chatting with their fake [minor] decoy…Then they’d name and shame them, on their Perverted Justice website.
PJ did get some attention from BoyChat…and given the nasty attitude and character of Xavier Von Erck [aka: Philip John Eide…PJs founding member], who openly admits targeting MAPs out of bold faced hatred, and has wished various inhumanities upon us…some of the BoyChat comments weren’t kind…Though I would say most of them were measured and fair.
BoyChat never did anything to either of these groups, beyond discussing them from time to time…issuing warnings about them to BoyLovers and such. It was overwhelming agreed, that what they were doing was wrong…But we didn’t really have any course of action we could take…And, I fear many thought “it’s not our fight”.
In it’s years of previous existence, PJ had only targeted people they caught in their stings…They openly stated, that the people they exposed had been caught breaking the law…This was a sort of benchmark, for the justification they gave regarding their actions. The people were [allegedly] criminals.
…I don’t even remember what year this was…2007, I guess…but it was probably almost ten years ago, now …For some reason, Philip became obsessed with taking down BoyChat [probably saw himself being called a “toad faced gremlin”, one to many times…started beating his chest, and instantly formed a vendetta]. Philip is a malicious person.
He managed to get BoyChats hosting arrangements terminated…
…Then higher up, JimF3, got us new hosting…and seconds before our old host cut off service, the entire Free Spirits website went live, on an entirely different host…The complete time of our “outage”, could be measured in minutes…This really pissed off Philip…
Simultaneously, Free Spirits administration was researching the option of suing MCI Canada, in order to get it’s status of “common carrier” revoked…Because it legally is required to provide service, to all paying customers operating within the law, in order to retain it’s advantageous “common carrier” status…When they blatantly discriminated against us.
We had a fundraiser on BoyChat…I should say, my own time on BoyChat administration was far into the past…But I did come back around for this…and became very excited, that our community was going to stand up and fight for itself.
In about ten days…maybe two weeks…we had amassed pledges amongst our community, in the amount of thirty five thousand dollars US [$35,000]…Which was extremely impressive, and energizing. The real amount they ended up collecting, was something more like $24,000, I believe…but it was still amazing…and BoyChat showed that it had the capacity to be a juggernaut, when it needed to be.
For better or for worse…the pledge page was public…and I pledged [and paid] over $1000 US, to this cause.
Philip’s response [along with his minions (IE: AZU)], was to start targeting BoyLovers from BoyChat [starting with the people who pledged money]…Based on the point that we were merely out here…that we were standing up to him…and this pissed him off.
Philip green-lighted “The Corporate Sex Offender” website…built, funded and hosted it…Where he [and his minions] stole the signature pictures of many BoyChat members…Where he started taking [and sometimes altering] portions of our posts on BoyChat [a copyright violation], and reposting them out of context, with no citation link…and strategically chosen and presented, so as to give distorted, one dimensional representations of many BoyChat posters.
The public intention behind this website…was to openly identify and out members of the BoyChat community…
…What was our “crime”?…
…We were simply out here, freely associating…and we were willing to stand up for ourselves, while exercising our voices…
That is it.
…PJ flushed what little integrity it had down the toilet, at that point in time…Because it could no longer hide that it was a hate group…It could no longer make claim, that it was targeting criminals…PJ was blatantly targeting, threatening, harassing, demeaning and terrorizing
For whatever I may have thought of PJ previously…I assure you…Things became personal at that point in time…and I got a good first hand education, of exactly what these sociopathic thugs are all about.
…Being honest and upstanding citizens, has nothing to do with what PJ was all about…They were out to simply fuck people over, to satisfy their own egos.
I mostly ignored “The Corporate Sex Offender registry”…because it was maliciously outing some people, who are my friends…and I did not want to bring more attention to the website. This is primarily why I’ve been so quiet about it, all these years.
The original chosen name [Corporate Sex Offender]…is something Philip pulled out of his own ass…Inventing a specious definition of a new “sex offender” class…One were Philip assumed that because there were many of us associating with each other, and money was being pooled…he could assume us to be “a corporation”…And because he did not like our viewpoints, or our speech…Philip figured he could spin it, that we were advocating, encouraging, educating, sponsoring, facilitating and trying to legalize “child sex abuse”…Hence, this supposedly made all of us being targeted “sex offenders”.
The list was blatant slander and terrorism…It was obvious stalking…and obviously sociopathic in nature.
It stayed online for about a year and a half…when Philip abruptly pulled it offline…claiming that there was no longer any interest amongst PJs minions, to maintain the site…
…Much to the dismay, of a couple AZU members who were still actively behind the site.
As it turns out…Philip lied…He needed to do an emergency clean up of PJ [his organization], losing the “Corporate Sex Offender” site, and telling a lot of his minions to get lost…
After having lost their deal with Dateline NBC [which paid them something like $100,000 per episode] after a high profile suicide, PJ was suddenly without income…and the three principle members of PJ decided to apply for “non profit” status…If it was known the debauchery PJ was embroiled in, nearly all of it’s prior existence…even if only what it was doing to people like me, with it’s so called “Corporate Sex Offender register”…This would have greatly jeopardized their ability to attain “non profit” status…Because it would have essentially made them a blatant, state sponsored terrorist hate group…What they were involved in, disqualified them from being a “non profit”.
Why did they want to be a “non profit”?…So that they could avoid paying certain taxes on their something like 1.4 million dollars in capital…as the three of them gave themselves fat, six digit yearly incomes…and allowed the capital of PJ to drain into their private bank accounts.
Now…the money was legally theirs…the three earned it in show business [Dateline NBC]…But what makes this so sleazy [aside from the nature of how they earned it], is that they filled out the application, representing themselves as intending to carry on PJ, as some sort of law enforcement education business…Something they never followed up on…They took all the money for themselves, under false pretenses…and quietly let PJ go bankrupt…They quietly shut it down…and they have tried to distance themselves, from their many sins of the past.
The sin of “Corporate Sex Offender” was also known as “Wikisposure”, during the time PJ was running it.
Shortly after PJ disingenuously distanced itself from this debacle…Cynthia Jean [Dale] Harvey of AZU collected up the pages, and put them back online under the name “Evil-Unveiled”. This insane psychopath proceeded to attain hosting, and promptly get terminated for blatant terms of service violations…The site itself, and what it was doing [slandering, stalking, harassing and terrorizing people, who were simply exercising their free speech], was an indefensible violation of most terms of service…and it was also a clear hotbed, for justified law suits.
Eventually this incompetent, mentally ill, malicious woman resorted to giving the website content, to the trolls who own Encyclopedia Dramatica…Perhaps, she is a member there also…I don’t know.
I do know for a fact, however…that for roughly the past decade, the people of PJ, Cynthia and probably a few others, have actively worked to threaten, intimidate and injure me, as well as to defame my online persona.
I never did anything to any of these people…yet I was the target of their abuse, vitriol, malice and hostility…And, yes…after an epic marathon of weathering this…I have, from time to time, acknowledged what insufferable assholes they are.
Those people are criminals…and they are the worst the human species has to offer.
It has been on my mind for years, to make a proper response to the “Steve-D” [which is me] page they made.
…And you can consider this to be the second part of that response.
I don’t really care what any of these people think about me, or my ideas…It’s none of their business, that I find value in discussing particular issues…And they have no right falsely claiming me to be a “sex offender”, over my speech and ideas…Nor any right for harassing and threatening me, all of these many years.
A sane person would have agreed to disagree, and peacefully gone their own way…but not these sociopath predators of PJ and AZU.
Yes…It has become deeply personal.
These have been the historic facts behind “Evil-Unveiled”, and my prior response to it.
Date: July 27, 2016
Links: Copy and paste them.
Warning: I do not suggest visiting the Encyclopedia Dramatica website. Like various troll owned websites, visiting has been known to set off alarms from anti-virus software. The people behind Encyclopedia Dramatica are clearly malicious. Visit at your own risk. The link is offered strictly as proof.
You can find it cached at the URL below:
DEAD LINK [Original URL – A Perverted Justice Website]
Note: At one point in time, there was a bastardized paragraph taken from one of my BoyChat posts, which was altered [words were deleted] to make it look as though I’d stated the exact opposite of what I stated in my post. I think this was on an older version of Wikisposure [“CorporateSexOffenders”], and that my archival of that version is not presently in my possession. Therefore, I will make no further comment on this, unless I retrieve those files.
…I’m just shocked that this slanderous swipe at me was edited out of the page…Possibly someone was afraid of being sued…Or, because my privacy was violated and they know who I am, they cleaned the page up to make it appear professional [as opposed to the malicious hatchet job it is, where the lies can be clearly established].
I’m offering two versions of this page. They are only stylistically different, except one offers a few more graphics.
First Copy [Zip Archive]:
Second Copy [Zip Archive]:
Full HTML Pages [Zip Archive]:
Had a zip file containing two HTML files, and their file folders…But, the pages try to run a script upon loading…So, I didn’t feel good about offering that one. The previous two links show the pages…They’re just chopped up into several screen captures.
Since I already said much of what I would be inclined to say, below…I’m just going to add a couple of notes.
“Goodguy’s Erotic Quest” is an over the top story, made up of a smorgasbord of shorter masturbation stories.
For quite a number of years, Cynthia was the primary promoter of this story, as she had it linked directly at this page. This was especially outlandish, given the big stink they were making about the story…and the “trigger” warning that accompanied the link. The link is now gone.
You can find it with a simple web search. It still resides in the Nifty archive…an archive for alternative stories.
A bit of trivia…
I wrote this most of twenty years ago. It was a gift, of sorts…First to my friends, who I love…and second to the broader community, to help them cope with life a bit better.
Second…these people have never given live citation links, to anything of mine…no links to my BoyChat posts…and never a link to any of my blogs or websites. They only provide links to resources of mine, which they already know are not there [and have not been, for a very long time].
They refuse to cite my http://ourlovefrontier.com/ domain…despite that they know I have it, and that I am here on WordPress.
Fact is…these malicious people don’t want you to come visit me, and see what I’ve honestly been up too, for the past ten years. I’ve always found this to be incredibly sleazy behavior on their part, given that they are trying to paint a very narrow picture of me…One which does not honestly represent me.
Anyone reading anything I write, needs to know the context in which I have written those words…Which is why failing to provide citation links, is so sleazy…Onlookers do not get the full picture. My words are also edited, to make them look how the website owner wants them to look. This is deception.
Third…I have a long history of exploring the philosophy of man boy love, in my writings. I have always advocated against people seeking real world sex, of any illegal form. I’m a realist, however…and I understand that things go on in the world, which I have no control over…and some people break those laws, regardless of what I have to say about it.
I have never encouraged anyone to break these laws…My activities have had nothing to do with that…Which is why despite knowing who I am…they cant swoop in and arrest me.
A handful of really bad things have happened, at the hands of certain BoyChat posters…Things which were done behind the back of our community…Things we have condemned…and were shocked to discover had happened.
These particular people were already on some kind of private personal course…and they would have interpreted their “justification” from anywhere.
…My activities have never had anything to do with that…nor the celebration or encouragement of it.
The rhyme I wrote for Gort was composed during my first year at BoyChat…
…The circumstances Gort got himself into, which lead to his suicide and an enormous mess…that happened something like five or more years later.
This is why I make comment about their choice to use the Gort rhyme, down below…They’re making it look as though I was making light of what Sparks and Gort did…when I never have [nor would I have].
Those two were estranged from BoyChat for quite a long time, before it became known what they were up too.
For most of us…participation on BoyChat has been entirely about the companionship, and the ability to both learn our roots as BoyLovers…and to exercise our own voices.
The single most horrible experiences I’ve had to live with…is watching my beloved friends fall…Not most of them…but enough…It has changed me, over the years.
I acknowledge a certain naivety, from my earliest years at BoyChat [which is where the bulk of my participation is concentrated]…
…But it’s entirely false, to claim or imply I ever had any knowledge or intent, regarding the actions of certain BoyChat posters.
…I am absolutely proud of my contributions at BoyChat…Just as I am proud of my activities in the blogosphere.
My intent has always been noble, openly genuine and pure.
Fourth…The boy in the picture is me…It was my first signature picture, on BoyChat…I’ve been contemplating having my original signature pictures restored on BoyChat, for a few years now…It really hurt me, taking those down…But, I wanted to retain the option of plausible deniability, even if I never used it…
Today, I don’t even much care…I am a human being…and my pictures of myself, represent my humanity…They help to make my presence both personal, and real.
The people who have been targeting and harassing me over the past [I don’t even know how many] years, should feel nothing but shame…over having stolen this from me.
If I get around to restoring them…they will also serve as a middle finger, explicitly to you people.
Finally…It’s very ironic…that the specific quotes you see above, I don’t object too [other than their context has been concealed]…Given the same circumstances they happened in…I would say and express them, all over again…I likely have, in most cases.
I am not ashamed of speaking truth, nor of holding a unique worldview…I am not ashamed of standing up for people, who are being persecuted for their sexuality, and for what is outside of their control.
Last…I want to repeat and emphasize that this is not the exact same version of that webpage, which has been online for years, on a bunch of different web hosts…It’s clearly been altered, and “cleaned up” by these scumbags.
The fanatics behind the hounding of me, can all go screw themselves…
…I am not going to be shouted down, nor intimidated into silence by you cowardly predators.
My original response to this personal threat made against me, from June 24, 2007:
[This is in response to a version of the page threatening my privacy and safety, which differs from the more recent versions I have archived in this post. It may reference things which aren’t explicitly shown here, but which were part of the original page, and remained so for several years.]
I am the “infamous” atheist BoyLover, Steve Diamond, in case anyone is confused by this response. If you don’t know me, then let me just say…I am a humanist, who supports and promotes human rights. I believe in supporting others, being kind and working together to find workable solutions. I am nobody special, in the grander scheme…but, I am someone who has reached a breaking point, and took a stand that this persecution of BL/GLs must stop.
I’m just going through the more outrageously underhanded slights, that were slung at me.
1) …I am “conceited”?…
…How dare I be an uppity pedophile (we are supposed to be depraved trash, aren’t we?), who calls for fairness, compassion, an open mind and equality?…
…How dare I call upon others to learn respect for us?…
…How dare I seek peace and harmony, in my time?…
…How dare I try to help matters?…
I am disturbing the hate and violence.
If that makes me “conceited”, then I will damn sure be conceited…vain…whatever you want to call it.
Sorry (No I’m not), but…I’m not the stereotype, and I will never pretend to be.
2) If mentioning once, over a sentence or two (in order to establish a history) in my blogger profile, that I used to be on the BC admin, means that I “talk about [it] everywhere”…
You can stop trying so hard, to make me look pathetic, as though I’m living on “past glory”.
Truth be told, I’ve almost entirely redefined myself, over the past year…and I’ve been very neglectful of BC, for the past few years.
It’s because I moved on, and attained a different focus.
There will always be a special place in me for BC, however.
3) I was a volunteer at Lifeline for a time (though I make no claim, to have been all that good at it). I never did a hotline…and I don’t recall anyone ever coming to Lifeline, to talk to me about having sex with boys.
That line was pulled, in its’ entirety, out of the authors own ass. It is a lie.
I have never even implied this, anywhere…and I would never, ever speak in a derogatory way, about those who frequent Lifeline, past or present.
That is a cheap, immature stab at BoyLovers in general…and at myself…as well as my writings…I’ve always condemned, disputed and dispelled the stereotype…and worked to expose how false it is.
You can stop trying so hard, to make me seem like a two faced slime bag.
I’ve seen an enormous amount of good in BoyLovers…If I had not, I’d have been gone for good, years ago.
The reason I left Lifeline, was because of my personal health, and an evolution in my own, personal drive…I was somewhat disillusioned, and adrift. I had lost my focus.
These are the only reasons I left Lifeline.
4) I’m not certain what “all the hardships life has to offer” are…or how anyone came to the conclusion that “I” have in any way attached myself to them.
Considering how tight lipped I am about all of my personal endeavors, what I have genuinely lived through, and what I have to deal with (online and off), I find it remarkable that anyone would ever say such a thing…
…or, did they pull another comment entirely out of their own ass?…
You can stop trying so hard, to make people think I am a whiny, self appointed, martyr wanna be…
Funny how little they know about me, evident by their almost empty identifying information…yet, they pretend to know me in some way…and characterize me in ways, that I hope nobody believes even resemble me.
5) I apologize to “I Love Green Olives”, for that grossly out of context, re posting of something I left on his blog. Most precisely, if it was ever taken in any way, I had not intended it.
His blog was deleted…It was titled, “Defending the Pedoerotic”…In a friendly tone, I suggested, maybe he would have better luck, if he did not chose a title which was so blatant. I was offering up one of my own, long term strategies, for his consideration.
…and as to the “30 GB of CP” comment, that was taken from somewhere…I don’t recall where, but I was talking about how illegal activities are holding us back, in their own ways…and making us easy targets.
You can get this sound advice, from any number of people who post right here at BC…who have been around for a long time, and know better, because they have seen the cycle…over and over…
…You can stop trying so hard, to make as though I am a mouthy preacher, who thinks everybody else is below him…
6) …posting about bestiality?…
My historic writing trend almost entirely ignores this subject matter…I don’t concern myself with it.
…and quoting a short clip, from a story I wrote for nifty (or assgm) many years ago, about a boy getting licked to orgasm by his (very lucky) pet dog, hardly establishes me as someone who has been known to be associated with bestiality.
You are trying very hard…and stretching so thin…
The story is fiction…though, it is inspired by real life, boyhood sexuality…(I’ll let you speculate and fantasize about that one, for a while)…
7) “BC Nursery Rhymes”…
…Yes, I know…I’ve been such a horrible, black blight on the internet, since my arrival…
Such “unspeakable” projects as BC Nursery Rhymes, have been a “terrible burden” for the internet to bare.
My apologies to all, for subjecting any minds to this silly endeavor…intended to inspire laughing…or at least a chuckle accompanied by an eye roll.
I’m almost amazed somebody found this (guess it is still out there)…and I’m amazed, that these are the only things you could come up with, given the enormous amount of writing I’ve done, over the past year.
…but, pick and choose as you will…What you’ve come across and decided to focus on, are whimsical expressions from my past…and I am not at all ashamed of any of them.
I noticed you chose Gort’s rhyme…how strategic of you!…
8) My my…you love to give out warnings, for “graphic” content, don’t you?…yet you have no qualms about re posting it…
…nor about re posting it only partially, in a selective manner…and out of context.
Let me get this correct…
You can manage to track down the most ancient content I have authored…and you can find the most recent post I have published on a blog…
…but, you cant manage to find even one single thing I’ve written and published online (the sheer volume of which could make a substantial sized book, if ever printed out), which accurately embodies the passion, thrust and intention behind my writing?
You chose nothing of substance…and tried to reduce me to that.
10) Thank you…
…When you have been around this many years, and you have seen several, good, close friends end up in prison…you start to wonder how badly you have been compromised…
…Then, you see sites like this one, and start to realize…They don’t know diddly squat about you…
I guess, my common sense over the years really has paid off.
11) Goplay (what a fun site that was) died at least half a decade ago…
…I don’t have an e-mail account with them anymore…
…but, if you want to contact me to discuss this matter further…you can e-mail me there…
To everybody else, I hope sincerely that nobody honestly thinks of me in such ways…I may have been bone headed at times, but I’ve always come here with sincere, positive intentions…and I hope that has shown through, above everything else.
All the best…
Cynthia Jean (Dale) Harvey is the person primarily responsible for “Evil-Unveiled”, and it’s many years of slander and harassment following it’s purge [as “the Wikisposure Project”] from the Perverted Justice website…But she was spearheading it, all along.
Date: May 30, 2013
This is someone who likes to throw stones, and lacks human empathy…He also likes to appeal to clichés and dogma…but he brings nothing of substance to the table.
…He sounds completely self absorbed, himself.
…Lecturing others about “not caring, what else is going on around the world”?…How rich…
This guy is someone who cracks open the bible, and starts dictating to people from it’s passages…believing that it is all authoritative…But how much time has he actually spent, reading the research?…reading the articles from the researchers, themselves? How much time has he spent, actually attempting to understand it all [along with it’s nuances], as opposed to ranting with knee jerk tantrums?
…Grimacing and scoffing, does not constitute a rebuttal…It only clarifies that you are a thrower of tantrums.
This guy is throwing several topics on the table, despite that none have anything to do with the original research…which he is allegedly responding to…
What does the research say?…
…It concludes that large numbers of males experience an involuntary, biological, sexual response, whenever they visually encounter the genitalia [or other parts] of a child’s body. This response is high enough, to where it is considered to be a normal response, within the male portion of our species.
Of course…many males conceal all of this, and don’t act on it…But, research is strongly pointing towards the conclusion, that it is still there in a very large portion of our species.
This isn’t really new information…It’s been known for decades, that males in particular have a natural response of this nature…It’s just now starting to make it into mainstream media.
…Does this guy display any awareness of any of this, at any point in his almost twenty minute tantrum?…No.
He asks “how is this even allowed to occur”, referencing a conference on the topic…and the [former, actually] existence of P.I.E. [the Pedophile Information Exchange]…And then makes a not so vague threat, of wanting to attend the next event “with a billy club”…
He wishes to dispute that pedophilia is loving and tender…but responds with “can you believe this?!”…
…I tell you what “Uprising”…You find someone competent to do an exhaustive worldwide research study, wherein they conclusively find zero cases of a loving and tender child with pedophile relationship…where they show with absolute certainty, with no question whatsoever, that loving and tender relationships like this never happen…and the method through which they are rendered naturally, biologically impossible of happening…
People asserting their “god doesn’t approve”, “sex is icky” or “this doesn’t fit into our social structure” bias, don’t count.
You manage that…and I might start to take you seriously…
…As things stand…you are just completely ignorant, and you don’t even know the issue you are attempting to talk about. You’re one of those people who likes to talk, talk, talk, attack, attack, attack…when you should be silent, set down and let other people teach you…so that you can actually learn something real and true…
…But, that doesn’t earn you followers and popularity on YouTube, does it?…Far easier to be a belligerent, contemptuous jerk, threatening violence against others…how “Christianly” of you.
He seemingly tries to dispute a quote about personal experiences of pedophiles, and how we know from our own childhoods, that children are not asexual…
…but doesn’t actually do so.
…He talks about “intellectual and big words, and giving reasoning behind these views”…taking none of it into account…Apparently, the words are too intellectual and big for him…They are just fine for any thinking person of average intelligence, I’d say.
You know…the very existence of the pedophile, who was naturally sexual as a child and personally comprehended it [which is my own experience, by the way], dispels the myth of the asexual child.
Those of us who lived this existence, all those years of our own childhood…we know that whitewashing people like us, is an outrageous lie on the part of the establishment…We know for a literal fact, that society is in deep, deep, deep denial…
…Apparently, some of you weren’t as sexual [didn’t have as strong a sexual drive?] as others of us…or, you just didn’t comprehend it in the same way as us…which is a fair enough observation, and would make for interesting, informative research, I think…
I know all of this is inconvenient for those of you who don’t like to think about it…but it’s reality…Maybe, you should learn to live in reality, like so many of us have had to?
If you need an invitation…I’ll offer one right now.
No…you are not allowed to strip us of our childhood cognition, nor our sexual identity…And, yes…many of us were [and are] acutely aware of our attractions, and our sexual intentions, as children…
…Your entirely lame mockery of this fact, does nothing to disprove it.
…I, for one, am amongst the untold numbers, who were not traumatized by sexual touch as a child…Being amongst that demographic, and knowing the inhumane hostility shown towards people like me…I demand deeper research into people like me, into our life experiences, and into why we did not turn out traumatized by sexual touch…in hopes that one day, we can move society past it’s phobia and intolerance, of people who’ve had different sexual experiences from “the majority”.
…Is this unreasonable?…Is this not a worthy pursuit?…Is it really so incomprehensible?
…You, are just fighting to keep a broken, anti-human social system afloat.
Unless this guy comes up with something unique in the remainder of his tantrum, I am done.
This video is bankrupt of any substance…Just some ignorant guy with a motor mouth, spouting off “what everybody knows”, who feels no compulsion to search, explore and grow his mind…He doesn’t even seem to comprehend, that he is scoffing at the real life experiences of real, living human beings…or why these real life experiences should be respectfully taken seriously…
…No…just more of the same old, demonizing, dehumanizing bullshit.
…And “we talk about it, as if it’s a misunderstanding of the public”?…
…The public is demonstrably ignorant about pedophilia, on a level which is outright incompetent…And you think you’re just going to scoff it off, again?…You are amongst the ignorant and incompetent.
…Lots of spooky, cliché talking points being employed, I see…lame…the hallmark of an impotent mind.
You don’t think that pedophilia and hebephilia are normal in males?…Consider this…
Across history and cultures, acceptable “sexual maturity” has ranged widely, based upon variables in the natural world, and variables in social politics…It still ranges widely, today. The primary factor tends to be, what social structure is dominant in any given culture. In general, people are expected to emulate one another, and follow the “normal” life path set forth as “proper and best”, by whomever is looked upon as authority. They want you to act and behave in certain ways, based on [typically rigid] ideological life phases…Many social structures do not make allowance for deviation, from their forceful intentions for you. They feel sexuality is incompatible with certain life phases, and punish people for experiencing such sexuality.
…Problem is…science and empirical research do not actually support this intolerance…and they’ve had to manipulate and strong arm research studies over many decades, to make it appear otherwise.
What males typically go for sexually, depends overwhelmingly on whatever is socially allowed…You can follow this trend, in every social culture you look at. You lower the age of consent to twelve, and when the stigma has faded away…tons of people will be openly taking twelve year olds to bed with them…and feeling no shame over it.
Of course, a massive amount of the male population experiences these kinds of impulses…They’re just under the surface…Just deep enough, for plausible deniability…but get rid of the prohibition and stigma, and we will find what the true statistics are…probably quickly.
Keep in mind, however…it does not make someone predatory, when they are merely attracted to someone younger and smaller than themselves, nor when they wish to share a sexual experience with such a person.
Offering something and giving pleasure to another accepting human being is not predatory behavior, no matter what age they are.
…It is an out and out filthy lie to call us predators, for being like this…
…Predators do not behave like us.
…We do not behave like predators.
People who viciously attack us…people who are constantly targeting us…You people are predators, by literal definition.
We “pedophiles” are not attacked for literally being cruel and violent towards children…That’s a stereotype and a straw man, based on a combination of rare cases and convoluted news reporting…We are attacked so viciously, because “authorities” in our culture don’t want children being sexually active…It’s sexual suppression…No allowance is made, for the natural sexual activity of children…They, and those who would otherwise be with them, are threatened to “abstain, or else”…
The stereotyping, demonization, constant shaming and threatening…these are all methods, of psychologically imposing not only a barrier on children and pedophiles…but also imposing a violently hateful intolerance, amongst the general population [most of whom don’t even know where fact diverges from fantasy, when it comes to this issue].
…So, you bring up and talk about your cliché stereotypes…about the nightmares and trauma, experienced by children who were sexually brutalized…But most of that wasn’t even done by actual pedophiles…And these things do not act as a true representation, of people like us…Those are cherry picked distortions you are throwing about.
We live in a variety of ways…Many of us are sexually celibate…Many are sexually active in legal and ethical ways…Many of us abstain, despite knowing that prohibition aimed against us is a sham.
We are not judged based on who we are, as individual human beings…
…We’re judged based on whether or not “authorities” think we get in the way…as they groom children into being mindless, working drones, keeping the “authorities” in power…and keeping the rigid social structure in place.
Our true threat as pedophiles, is to the establishment…it’s to the people who gain so much, in things being the way they are…it’s to the people who stand to lose their power, money and control, should this social structure no longer exist.
…They play off the fears and phobias of the many…telling them that children [and everybody] will be raped, pillaged and murdered, without their “authoritative” iron fist to protect them all.
Positive and benign sexuality has nothing to do with any of that…
…They don’t want to respect, honor and value pedophiles [or sexually active children, for that matter]…because they foolishly believe, they will never have to…nor that they’ll have to answer for the way they maltreat us.
People like this guy, are what is wrong with the world…They just want to walk all over other people, spit in their faces and beat them down with a billy club…Because they are too cowardly, shallow and self absorbed, to reach out and find peaceful solutions.
The social disease is not pedophiles and perverts…It’s people like this guy, who fight to keep all of us at each others throats.
…It’s time to kick these divisive shysters to the curb…and let all of us good, kind, sensible and knowledgeable people [who genuinely care about each other] build a better, more peaceful world.
Let the war mongers fight amongst themselves…We have no use for them.
Okay…I’ve had enough of wading through this brain numbing tantrum…And I’m only about half way through…If anyone else wishes to pick at this [it’s like spearing fish in a barrel]…have at it.
As a side note…”Uprising’s” video entrance is amusing enough to watch, once or twice…but it’s about a minute and fifteen seconds long…and it gets insanely annoying, fast [if you’re browsing their videos]…Short YouTube videos don’t need a long, canned introduction…It’s crazy to give them one…and probably most of this guys viewers are skipping ahead to the 1:15 mark, by now.
I wish more YouTubers of this sort would get a clue about such things…They are not so grand and glorious, that they need this kind of time wasting parade, to announce their arrival…
…A two to five second little ditty is perfect…and some people even manage to make those, painfully annoying to watch…
…Unless your making a commercial show…I wish the intros on “cottage YouTube videos” would just go away…They are senseless and annoying.
Oh good grief…And he’s evoking Satanism too?
I ask you sincerely, who deserves these words of vulgar abuse and hate, merely for daring to live, love and be loved?…
Have no doubt, that Child Love and Teen Love are a pure form of love…genuine and worthy of defense, no matter what some may say about it…
| THE WALL |
Date: January 14, 2016
“Virginia Del. Mark Cole, a Republican of course, is so wound up about whether a transgender person might use a public restroom that he’s introduced legislation that would require schoolchildren’s genitals be inspected before they’re allowed to go to the bathroom.”
…In a world where school teachers are mortified at the prospect, of even being accused of anything questionable with a child…
…Virginia republican Mark Cole wants to send them straight into the underwear of pupils?…
That is quite the quandary…Isn’t it?…
…Or will this be delegated to the school nurse?
Sometimes…and I know this is “wrong”, on some level…but…sometimes, I just love setting back and watching this world eat itself, with stupidity.
…I’m wondering when lessons will start getting learned…and which straw is going to break the camels back.
…Do you think we are getting close?
The transgendered pupil question is an interesting one, however.
Biologically, we are all a mix of male and female, anyway…and we each have a unique balance…It doesn’t always fit, with social gender role constructions.
You watch…the day may come, when they do away with “community” restrooms…and they replace them with walls of closet sized micro-restrooms, with locked doors requiring keys [that each person has to sign out]…and cameras and hall monitors, patrolling the hallways outside.
…Sort of like being temporarily sent to prison, to take a pee.
Wouldn’t want anyone taking out those dangerous body parts, to injure another person by letting them see it.
…Oh, the horror!
I’m guessing bills that will outlaw all reminders, that humans even have to pee and poop, will be coming along in the not too distant future.
…My optimism on collective human intelligence, just isn’t that high.
This type of news story displays, why diversity in thought and thinking for ourselves is so vital.
…If we don’t seize and exercise our right to thought and expression…we get dragged down these rabbit holes…and a lot of people do, honestly, get hurt by it.
Date: November 19, 2015
There’s an age restriction on this video, despite that nothing illegal is featured in it. You may need to visit the dailymotion website, and click on a button in order to watch it…not sure.
“SolidMario was an individual on DeviantArt who was INDEED DEVIANT! He had a nasty obsession with BART SIMPSON, even to the point where he admitted that he found Bart to be SEXY! WATCH AND LAUGH AT THIS HILARIOUS VIDEO EXPOSING THE INTERNET PEDOPHILE!”
This is someone trying to Pedophile Shame, in a public manner.
I find this “BlackBuster Critic” character far more concerning, than I will ever find anyone who’s channeling their sexual interests into a fictional venue…because this guy is feeding the whole idea, that it’s okay to pass prohibition laws, and go after people engaged in activities which objectively hurt no one.
This has been one of the biggest, most outrageous problems facing Minor Attracted Persons [MAPs], over the last several decades…an insatiable frenzy to demonize us, and continue passing laws which ever shrink our freedom, no matter how mundane or harmless the act in question.
It’s gotten to the point, where it is outright shocking…But that’s the thing about being so badly degraded and dehumanized…This is now, “just the way things are”…and people not only expect it…they’ve been trained to demand it.
Why does one suppose, for example…that “child pornography” laws have been expanded so many times over…to the point where it includes a vast array of content, much of which does not even involve actual children?…sometimes, it’s nothing more than fictional drawings…
Today…”child pornography” includes thought crime…telling a story…expressing a thought.
…And, of course…they keep getting away with this…
…They take socially alienated groups who they don’t like…who they fear…and they keep passing these laws, whittling away at what you can continue to do legally…
Anymore, it’s outright brazen…their anger at the fact, that so many of us are not criminals…which prohibits them from legally doing to us, what they want to do to us…So they watch us…send in moles…figure out how we are getting by…how we are keeping ourselves satisfied…and how we are staying within the confines of the law…and they pick those things out, to pass a bill and make them a crime.
Given enough time…and especially in the context of “a rape culture”, “triggers” and “third wave feminism” insanity…they don’t have much left to target, if anything, other than our simple speech and self identification as MAPs…and our standing up for ourselves.
Even if there is a step or two left, which I do not presently see…this pattern of progression demands, that their hostility towards us makes them attack our very ability to speak.
Being made a criminal when you are a MAP, isn’t about being a bad person…It’s about having a target painted on you, by a system directed by sociopaths, who are refusing to allow you to be part of society.
I almost put this video on The Wall [I’ll double catagorize it]…because BlackBuster is an internet bully, who apparently has a thing for hounding people that are into “deviant art”…and that sort of sociopathic behavior, is a very substantial problem many MAPs have to deal with.
I’ve crossed paths with a number of fanatics over the years…many of them were such extreme creeps, it was laughable that they were pointing their fingers in judgment at other people…when they had so, so much, to clean up in their own closet…and they were clearly the malcontent, in the entire episode.
I don’t know BlackBuster…I am in no position to deeply judge his character…But after my history with that sort of individual…I will never trust anyone, who gets that worked up, who is that big of a busy body…who is constantly forcing themselves [unwanted] into the personal matters of others, who they themselves don’t even know…and doing so over such trivial things, as drawing cartoons which morally offend their delicate sensibilities.
This is somebody willing to target, haunt, harass and hurt another human being…because they drew pictures of Bart Simpson, in ways that offended their way of thinking…for crying out loud.
Where it comes to this sense of moral rage, there is no healthy limitation with these sorts…Something sociopathic within them, makes them exert power, manipulation and suffering over others, because they know this is one social demographic they can target, and get away with it.
In my level headed opinion…if you want to pass a law aimed at validly wrong behavior…what BlackBuster is doing here, is prime example of what should be regarded as a prosecutable crime.
…But I decided to place this here, because it does touch on the problem, of just how out of control things have gotten, with the legal system and with “child pornography” laws…as well as their wide ranging social fallout…
As if this is not bad enough…you have people like BlackBuster out there, exploiting the situation even further.
We have this insane, niche “cottage industry”…of producing content, to torment people who are expressing taboo sexual ideas.
…That is just wrong.
You know…after listening and watching this video all the way through…I’m left with the honest impression, that BlackBuster is a likely closet case…one who’s hiding in his “outrage”.
…Portions come off feeling more like a satire, than genuine outrage.
There’s at least two other videos [on YouTube] he does, continuing on about someone “wanting to have sex with Bart Simpson”.
Date: November 02, 2015
“Anonymous – ‘On November the 4th we will be having a twitter storm, spreading awareness about the operation. And on the 5th we shall release more than 1000 Ku Klux Klan members names and websites, new and old.’
But on Sunday and Monday, alleged members of Anonymous, which has no formal leadership, published four separate lists with the names, email addresses, and phone numbers of purported KKK members—including four U.S. senators and five city mayors. As as result, the hacking collective came under fire from critics on social media for sharing erroneous information.
Madeline Rogero, the mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee, who was one of the public officials included in the lists, posted a lengthy denial of KKK membership on her Facebook page.
An Anonymous member, Anon6K, who claimed to be the founder of an #OpKKK channel wrote to TakePart on Monday that the list is not part of the “official” Anonymous dump of KKK members, and that Rogero was erroneously included.
Anon6K, who would only identify as a male living in North America, apologized profusely to Rogero.
Anon6K also wrote he “partially” agrees it’s irresponsible to publish lists of alleged KKK members if innocent people may inadvertently be caught up in it. But “those who are innocent will be proven as such,” he wrote.
To that end, Anon6K wrote to TakePart that, starting at 10 a.m. CST on Thursday, Nov. 5, Operation KKK would begin the real dump of its Ku Klux Klan member list. “
Well…I’ve said it a number of times…
…The structure of “Anonymous” sees to it, that there is neither coordination nor control…nor accountability, within it’s ranks.
Just how many people are they going to be claiming are members of the Ku Klux Klan, who factually are not?
There is a tremendous amount of irony…in the fact that “Anonymous” members are doing this to people…both making accusations, and stripping them of their anonymity…while themselves expecting to remain totally hidden behind anonymity.
There is absolutely no accountability in this equation…The people being accused, will have no chance to face, let alone confront, their accuser…
…There is something extremely wrong and rotten with that.
I don’t care who you are attacking…Nobody, anywhere, at any time, under any circumstances, has the right to behave like “Anonymous” is behaving…
…And as usual…they are already screwing it up, before it even begins.
…”Oops!…Sorry!…But the truth will vindicate you!”…
…Oh no!…Those accusations will never take on a life of their own, when released in such a large, public spectacle…They cant become impossible to quell…Right?…?…
I’m not defending the KKK…but, frankly…”Anonymous” is no better than the Ku Klux Klan…and they are incompetent…
…And they have so, so, so, so, so, so much to answer for, already.
They pick and go after disenfranchised groups of all stripes…through criminal means, in their own right…violating even people who have hurt nobody, at all…And “Anonymous” acts as though they are entitled to do this to other people…without ever having to answer for it.
Date: September 11, 2015
…But do you know what is explicitly guaranteed in the United States Constitution?
…It is the right of every U.S. citizen, to take part in both government and the structure of law.
U.S. Citizens have the constitutionally guaranteed right, to work through the government and legal system, in order to make it better work for them. They have the right to work towards social and legal change…which includes altering their own social and legal status.
What really gets me…is that so few people behind these “defense of marriage” acts, even understand the true depth of what they did…In fact, they down right trivialize what they did, and behave angrily over it’s predictable fall.
I had one of these folks in my place of work, the other day…They were going on and on, about “the people voted, and the supreme court has ignored us”, and so on, and so forth…and she was all shaken and pissy about it. I couldn’t just leave…I could not really say anything…I was kept a hostage audience to this oral [and mental] diarrhea, for much longer than I should have been assaulted with it…and it was really starting to bother me…most especially this attitude she radiated, of utter contempt towards sexual minorities…her self entitled sense, that she has any right to vote away other people’s right to seek social and legal change.
She even went so far as to say, “Most of them [gays and lesbians] don’t really want marriage anyway, and they don’t want to be where they are unwelcome”…
…Yeah, lady…I’m sure gays and lesbians are “happy” to have you as an authoritative spokesperson for them.
But seriously…I really badly wanted to tell her to leave…Because what she was doing, was extremely inappropriate…especially in that setting…and extended exposure to this contemptuous attitude, was seriously getting on my nerves.
I so badly wanted to tell her to her face, what I am about to tell you…
…”Defense of marriage” was an attempt at alienating entire groups of U.S. citizens, from their constitutionally guaranteed right to better themselves, by engaging government and law…and actually expecting to gain something out of it.
What these “defense of marriage” people were trying to do, is strip people of their rights to have government and law work for them…They saw that these groups were fighting for a specific goal…and they tried to preempt their ability to attain it…effectively forcing a legal ceiling, on certain groups.
This is why “defense of marriage” was unconstitutional…This is why, it had to be shot down by the supreme court.
In fact…these “defense of marriage” acts were criminal acts, according to the U.S. constitution.
You cant vote away that fundamental right, of other people…no matter how much contempt you have towards them.
Will the people who thought it was such a bright idea, ever admit so much?…I wouldn’t bet on it.
…And now we have this Kim Davis woman, who has become this focal point for the righteous outraged to rally around…and spread more of their cruel, nasty ugliness.
I intend to share some links, and discuss a little bit more in regards to her…soon.
There’s plenty more that could be commented on, in this episode of “USA Survival” [as if, I’d ever want or trust these bozos, with the survival of the USA…Under their guidance, we’d all be doomed.]…
By all means…do not miss the “religious experience” side step Cliff and Peter take, when responding to the exposing of Kim’s own train wreck of a marriage life…They are no big fans of owning your own past…not when they have self proclaimed “forgiveness from god”…and religious hocus pocus such as “jesus forgive me!”, to hide behind…Say the magic words, and act as though everything bad from your past no longer exists, huh guys?
They act like critical examination of Kim’s own life behaviors is “out of bounds”, because that all happened “before she came back to god”…and because she makes this religious claim, “none of it matters, anymore”…
This is why religious extremists need to stay out of politics…They think nothing of alienating other people from the political sphere…They think it’s the way it should be…and they get angry, when people tell them they cant do that.