01) Manchester Attack: What we know so far about Salman Abedi – BBC News
“BBC’s Daniel Sandford reveals information we know so far about the suspected Manchester momber Salman Abedi.”
Farage on Manchester attack: What is our government going to do?
My condolences to the families of these children and kids…and best wishes to the survivors.
You know…tolerance is a two way street…You cannot expect to be tolerated, when you refuse to tolerate others and make yourself intolerable…
…And mutilating to death eight year old girls [amongst other kids], is not compatible with making yourself tolerable.
Something has got to be done, to bring this clear evil to heel…Words of defiance, saying “our culture wont change”, are utterly useless…They are a cowardly sidestep…and they don’t address the actual point, that there are psychopaths blowing up children…amongst other human beings.
This is guerilla warfare in your home territory, UK…The same can be said when it happens in the USA, France or anywhere else.
Your home has been turned into a war zone…It’s time to start acknowledging this, and acting accordingly.
There are war criminals hiding in your jurisdictions…What are you going to do about them?
…Continue to sacrifice eight year old children to them?
01) MUST WATCH!!! WIKILEAKS #PIZZAGATE (FINAL CUT)
My goodness!…If 4chan “uncovers” it…it “must” be true…right?…
What do you even say to that level of paranoid delusion [psychosis?]…that it demands to make a video like this one?
This is blatant propaganda.
I guess…some people will believe anything.
Incase you did not know…the BLogo, LBLogo and GLogo [and CLogo, for that matter] have no connection with the occult…In fact…the BLogo and LBLogo came directly out of the community associated with Free Spirits and BoyChat…We directly knew the people, who created these symbols…The creation of these symbols has nothing to do with religion, of any form…including those of the occult.
They are community symbols…They are an identifying icon…Is this honestly so hard to comprehend?
Note: There are two different names these were posted under, but they all came from the same IP address…It’s the same person.
To the person calling themselves “TheSith” [a curious and telling character, to choose for ones self]…I am genuinely sorry for whatever it is you experienced…Do not mistake…I am not an individual of the nature which you accuse.
This blog exists for positive and productive dialogue…I do not approve comments left on this blog, of the nature which you have left.
At most…they are either deleted or I take screen captures, and add them to my collection of hate speech and online terrorism…potentially to show up in this posting series, at some future date.
So…if you are not prepared for a respectful, goodwill dialogue, with expectations that we can bridge some sort of gap between us…then I would suggest it’s best to keep these things to yourself.
You’ve expressed both a knowledge and will to set into motion at least one homicide, and directly commit another.
You need to get your head on right.
…And do not place me in a position where I have to guess, whether or not I need to report you to the police.
“You know what would be so fun? If I could lock you in a secluded area in a tiny building and slowly torture and eventually let you die of your injuries. I hope you linger on for weeks or months and I hope it’s hell. That’s what I plan on doing to the pedophile who raped me. You all deserve what I’ll to do him. You’re not human beings, you’re monsters who don’t deserve to live. I hope a law is passed that makes it legal to kill you people out in the open.”
I forgive you.
But onlookers of this post should know…what is expressed here…is the message, mindset and cultural atmosphere, which I grew up in…It took me many years of struggling, and suicidal tendencies, to work my way through that alone…I am a survivor, by the most stark and raw definition…
…Later years of my life have seen me trying to build a bridge…build some sort of a way forward…And yes…I have experienced severe discrimination, multiple times over…and I’ve witnessed many additional incidents…
The person who is trying to deny me, that I’ve ever been discriminated against…is dumping onto me, precisely the sort of discrimination, torment and abuse I’ve frequently spoken of.
That type of behavior is psychological rape…It’s not something that just goes away…It’s something you carry forever.
I have chosen to rise above all of this, and take the high road. I have dedicated myself, to seeking the better way forward.
““To those who have suffered sexual assault of whatever kind…and who have suffered dearly in life, haunted by this event…Know that you have my sincere sympathy, my empathy and my compassion for what you had to endure…”
No you don’t actually feel sorry for these people. To things like you stories of horrific assaults are just wank material for you. Hell one of your pedophile friends on you YouTube channel asked a victim to detail her sexual abuse. I guess watching kids get raped on Tor doesn’t get him hard anymore. His YouTube name is ******, he looks like a mongoloid with red hair. I made sure to spread his profile around to people who are willing to contact him and tell him what he outta do. Which of course is kill himself, he won’t be missed and neither will you. As to your buddy ************ from Phoenix, Arizona…..well there’s a few militia groups and outlaw gangs out there and I’m sure they’d just love to get their hands on him. He’s weak, pale and scrawnier than a hardcore meth-head. I doubt he’d survive whatever is done to him. But isn’t that the plan? Because of people like you I have the job that I have, out of all the hundreds of kids I’ve seen only 36 were abused by “child molesters.” The rest were attacked by pedophiles, pedophiles who caused lasting physical and mental injuries. Injuries so horrific some adults don’t even recover let alone a 3-year old who is repeatedly raped. But to your kind it wasn’t rape it was love. The pedophile that raped her said it was love that made him rip apart a little girl. Pedophiles who drove 15 of these kids to kill themselves, deaths that I personally witnessed. I’ve witnessed countless other suicide attempts by crazed victims who want their nightmares to stop. Because of your kind 15 kids at the hospital I work for are dead. 16 if you count the adoptive sister I lost. She killed herself when she was 10 years old not too long after I walked into an old run down shed after hearing her screaming and crying and telling the two pedophiles raping her to stop. Because of your kind she’s dead. I held her while she died and I will not forget that. I was 15-years old when she died, I still have the clothes I was wearing when she bled out. Her blood is still soaked into them and some days I have to struggle to not break down sobbing at that memory. Your kind is a blight that must be purged. If only Hitler had killed you all, if only he could’ve killed you all, if only he didn’t target Jews and Romanis. I hope someone finds you and kills you and each and every one of your baby raping friends too. Your kind is one without remorse or sympathy, you’re incapable of understanding right from wrong or caring about the pain you cause others.
People like you destroy lives. What makes you think you deserve anything good in life? You deserve death. I’m not a religious man, religion is false. But if Hell is real I hope you burn there, I hope you suffer every imaginable horror and humiliation both known and unknown. The day is coming when we’ll be able to openly kill your kind again. I can’t wait for this to happen.”
You have no power to put words into my mouth…And nobody of integrity will be swayed by your attempt.
I am an ally of victims, just as many other MAPs are.
What you have offered here, will help nobody…It will improve nothing…It will only release hate, abuse and fear into this world.
No one who cares about victims, behaves in that way.
In addition, I’d like to point out…
…Just because I happen to have a few YouTube accounts, does not make me part of a “pedophile borg”…I cant control, nor will I answer for, what every other person online does.
I’ve openly condemned bad behavior amongst MAPs, for years…But I don’t normally even go into the cesspool, which is the YouTube comments section…So, I’m not likely to even see, whatever it is you are alleging to have happened.
You’ve referenced an alleged bad behavior of someone on YouTube…yet you’ve failed to give any context, or citation.
Having dealt with far too many abusive fanatics over the years…I know better than to just take these statements at face value…I’ve witnessed real situations where the fanatic, and the person behind the behavior they were screaming about, were one and the same.
Too many of you think you can entirely make up stories about us, and even stage false acts attributed to us…All because you think something entitles you.
…And, you are confused…I don’t allow comments on any of my YouTube channels…You are thinking of someone else.
As for your loss…you have my condolences…
…And as for the rest…I forgive you, again.
However…I am not a pacifist, where it comes to people attacking my person…
…Anyone envisioning a physical confrontation with me, would do well to keep this in mind.
Oh…and for your information…What I masturbate to, is thoughts of kissing the naked bodies of prepubescent boys…and personal fantasies of sucking them off to orgasm…Sometimes, I imagine myself the boy…And sometimes, I am a boy with other boys.
…Other times, I go back into my own memories, of romps I was pulled into by my cousins…I often embellish and expand upon the reality of that history…But it’s a private fantasy…It’s mine to do with, as I please.
I’ve never masturbated to violent stories [or porn] in my entire life. That sort of thing has nothing to do with my sexual orientation.
““…Victims who are in my category, do not sincerely have any of these things.”
“Truth be told, people like me show a tremendous deal more respect towards victims of sexual violence, than most…”
Actually you don’t. Your kind tells them bullshit like “I’m sorry you were raped, I wouldn’t have hurt you like that.” Which is a pedophiles’ way of saying you would have tried to politely rape them, you wouldn’t have taken no for an answer. You are a liar.
“At the very least, I respect those victims enough not to lie to them…Which puts me well ahead of the status quo.”
Actually you lie to them by saying you understand them. When in actuality your kind just likes to read stories of brutal sexual assault on children because it’s the only thing that gets you off. Further proof that you’re untrustworthy creatures.
“I am neither feeding people fantasy, nor trying to saddle others with false victimhood and all the psychological baggage that comes with it.”
Says the faggot crying about being a victim of discrimination. You are not discriminated against but keep crying about and you’ll get it.”
You remind me of a certain BoyLover from BoyChat…
…No matter what you’re talking about, or trying to communicate…it’s always the basis for a confrontation with him…He always picks something to dismiss, and replace with his own slanted re-interpretation. So…you’re never entitled to your own words or voice, around him…You’re never entitled to speak for yourself…You’re just a subject for him, to do with as he pleases…
…Which makes it impossible, to have any coherent or meaningful exchange with him…And he often uses this tactic, to cause turmoil on the board.
I see exactly what you are doing…It’s amongst the oldest tactics in the book…And I am immune to these tactics.
You don’t understand much of anything about MAPs [or pedophiles], as an overall group…And if you worked at a hospital for those kinds of abuse cases, as you claim…then you have got to realize, that you have lived in an unnaturally high concentration of the worst cases, which were collected and brought to you…Your experience and resulting viewpoint, are grossly skewed.
I am sorry for what all you have had to see, in your particular, uncommon setting…But I will not allow that, to wrongly represent people like myself.
People do bad things in this world…We are not all, those people.
…And I don’t “cry about discrimination”…I speak about the realities of it, and the impact it has.
The difference between someone like me and someone like you…is that I want these cycles of violence and abuse to stop…and I clearly understand why they need to…while you are just shooting at the world, and the phantoms you see.
Your path leads nowhere.
I forgive you, again…
If you have any genuine intent, of ever sparing a child from the fate you speak of…then you need to come to terms with the fact…that MAPs must be able to come out, and live safely in public…This is the only way to have any chance of knowing, when a MAP may be going astray…
Your threats don’t work…In fact, they make things worse.
Understand it…Own it…And correct your behavior.
“My motivations are due to anger and frustration of seeing you shitstaints get away with horrific crimes again and again and again. I’ve had enough.”
You don’t know me…You don’t know most of us MAPs…
…And we’ve already established that you have had an abnormally high exposure, to the worst sorts of sexual brutality.
…You’ve clearly displayed right here, that you cannot handle it.
You are exactly the sort of person who should stay out of these discussions, because you have clearly lost touch with objective reality [to say nothing of your own humanity].
I would suggest that you should get out of the field you are in, altogether…Because it is clearly destroying you.
I forgive you, again…
…But that does not mean, what you have done here is alright…
I am a human being…a rather good, kind human being…I have done none of the things you accuse me of…
…I deserve an apology, for your foul behavior against me.
…Are you big enough to give one?
– Steve Diamond
For The Record:
Brutality of any form, is not love.
Lust, while morally neutral, is not itself love.
Laying yourself on the line for another, is love.
Being there for another, is love.
Sharing a life of joy, is love.
Humans of all ages, have a vast capacity for love.
…All humans are entitled to freely love and be loved.
Now…Is there anything I have left out, which is not crystal clear?
I ask you sincerely, who deserves these words of vulgar abuse and hate, merely for daring to live, love and be loved?…
Have no doubt, that Child Love and Teen Love are a pure form of love…genuine and worthy of defense, no matter what some may say about it…
Some people might be wondering what this post was all about…
Here is the history:
This is really the story of three different groups…
…One group being the BoyLovers of BoyChat…the other two being the group of fanatics that made up “Perverted Justice” [Yes, the Dateline NBC “To Catch a Predator” people] and elements of “Absolute Zero United”.
Perverted Justice [PJ] was a hate group, which targeted “pedophiles” [or Minor Attracted People]…Absolute Zero United [AZU], was a group of the same nature.
A few AZU members had a history of being moles on BoyChat…Two in particular, displayed a sociopathic and predatory obsession with stalking and outing BoyChatters…They were posting on BoyChat for years…and really badly hurt some people.
BoyChat is an online posting chat board, which historically existed for the purpose of providing community and emotional support, for Minor Attracted People [MAPs] who are sexually attracted to boys. The behavior allowed on BoyChat was [and remains] soundly legal…and the community was on board with this objective, with exception to the rare outlier…who would either conceal what they were doing…or they would eventually find themselves banned from BoyChat, if they ever attempted to bring it there.
BoyChat was never a hub for criminal behavior…It was a community hub, for emotional and psychological enrichment…It was a place for communication with peers…and sometimes, with outsiders. For many of us writers…it was a place of personal journey, and personal discovery…
What BoyChat allowed us…was life changing…We finally found ourselves, because of BoyChat…and it was utterly beautiful.
PJ was a group that was out there…We at BoyChat knew about them, well before they became famous from NBC. They would conduct stings in online chat rooms, collect information on people chatting with their fake [minor] decoy…Then they’d name and shame them, on their Perverted Justice website.
PJ did get some attention from BoyChat…and given the nasty attitude and character of Xavier Von Erck [aka: Philip John Eide…PJs founding member], who openly admits targeting MAPs out of bold faced hatred, and has wished various inhumanities upon us…some of the BoyChat comments weren’t kind…Though I would say most of them were measured and fair.
BoyChat never did anything to either of these groups, beyond discussing them from time to time…issuing warnings about them to BoyLovers and such. It was overwhelming agreed, that what they were doing was wrong…But we didn’t really have any course of action we could take…And, I fear many thought “it’s not our fight”.
In it’s years of previous existence, PJ had only targeted people they caught in their stings…They openly stated, that the people they exposed had been caught breaking the law…This was a sort of benchmark, for the justification they gave regarding their actions. The people were [allegedly] criminals.
…I don’t even remember what year this was…2007, I guess…but it was probably almost ten years ago, now …For some reason, Philip became obsessed with taking down BoyChat [probably saw himself being called a “toad faced gremlin”, one to many times…started beating his chest, and instantly formed a vendetta]. Philip is a malicious person.
He managed to get BoyChats hosting arrangements terminated…
…Then higher up, JimF3, got us new hosting…and seconds before our old host cut off service, the entire Free Spirits website went live, on an entirely different host…The complete time of our “outage”, could be measured in minutes…This really pissed off Philip…
Simultaneously, Free Spirits administration was researching the option of suing MCI Canada, in order to get it’s status of “common carrier” revoked…Because it legally is required to provide service, to all paying customers operating within the law, in order to retain it’s advantageous “common carrier” status…When they blatantly discriminated against us.
We had a fundraiser on BoyChat…I should say, my own time on BoyChat administration was far into the past…But I did come back around for this…and became very excited, that our community was going to stand up and fight for itself.
In about ten days…maybe two weeks…we had amassed pledges amongst our community, in the amount of thirty five thousand dollars US [$35,000]…Which was extremely impressive, and energizing. The real amount they ended up collecting, was something more like $24,000, I believe…but it was still amazing…and BoyChat showed that it had the capacity to be a juggernaut, when it needed to be.
For better or for worse…the pledge page was public…and I pledged [and paid] over $1000 US, to this cause.
Philip’s response [along with his minions (IE: AZU)], was to start targeting BoyLovers from BoyChat [starting with the people who pledged money]…Based on the point that we were merely out here…that we were standing up to him…and this pissed him off.
Philip green-lighted “The Corporate Sex Offender” website…built, funded and hosted it…Where he [and his minions] stole the signature pictures of many BoyChat members…Where he started taking [and sometimes altering] portions of our posts on BoyChat [a copyright violation], and reposting them out of context, with no citation link…and strategically chosen and presented, so as to give distorted, one dimensional representations of many BoyChat posters.
The public intention behind this website…was to openly identify and out members of the BoyChat community…
…What was our “crime”?…
…We were simply out here, freely associating…and we were willing to stand up for ourselves, while exercising our voices…
That is it.
…PJ flushed what little integrity it had down the toilet, at that point in time…Because it could no longer hide that it was a hate group…It could no longer make claim, that it was targeting criminals…PJ was blatantly targeting, threatening, harassing, demeaning and terrorizing
MAPs who were exercising their free speech…on the grounds, that those MAPs were exercising their free speech.
For whatever I may have thought of PJ previously…I assure you…Things became personal at that point in time…and I got a good first hand education, of exactly what these sociopathic thugs are all about.
…Being honest and upstanding citizens, has nothing to do with what PJ was all about…They were out to simply fuck people over, to satisfy their own egos.
I mostly ignored “The Corporate Sex Offender registry”…because it was maliciously outing some people, who are my friends…and I did not want to bring more attention to the website. This is primarily why I’ve been so quiet about it, all these years.
The original chosen name [Corporate Sex Offender]…is something Philip pulled out of his own ass…Inventing a specious definition of a new “sex offender” class…One were Philip assumed that because there were many of us associating with each other, and money was being pooled…he could assume us to be “a corporation”…And because he did not like our viewpoints, or our speech…Philip figured he could spin it, that we were advocating, encouraging, educating, sponsoring, facilitating and trying to legalize “child sex abuse”…Hence, this supposedly made all of us being targeted “sex offenders”.
The list was blatant slander and terrorism…It was obvious stalking…and obviously sociopathic in nature.
It stayed online for about a year and a half…when Philip abruptly pulled it offline…claiming that there was no longer any interest amongst PJs minions, to maintain the site…
…Much to the dismay, of a couple AZU members who were still actively behind the site.
As it turns out…Philip lied…He needed to do an emergency clean up of PJ [his organization], losing the “Corporate Sex Offender” site, and telling a lot of his minions to get lost…
After having lost their deal with Dateline NBC [which paid them something like $100,000 per episode] after a high profile suicide, PJ was suddenly without income…and the three principle members of PJ decided to apply for “non profit” status…If it was known the debauchery PJ was embroiled in, nearly all of it’s prior existence…even if only what it was doing to people like me, with it’s so called “Corporate Sex Offender register”…This would have greatly jeopardized their ability to attain “non profit” status…Because it would have essentially made them a blatant, state sponsored terrorist hate group…What they were involved in, disqualified them from being a “non profit”.
Why did they want to be a “non profit”?…So that they could avoid paying certain taxes on their something like 1.4 million dollars in capital…as the three of them gave themselves fat, six digit yearly incomes…and allowed the capital of PJ to drain into their private bank accounts.
Now…the money was legally theirs…the three earned it in show business [Dateline NBC]…But what makes this so sleazy [aside from the nature of how they earned it], is that they filled out the application, representing themselves as intending to carry on PJ, as some sort of law enforcement education business…Something they never followed up on…They took all the money for themselves, under false pretenses…and quietly let PJ go bankrupt…They quietly shut it down…and they have tried to distance themselves, from their many sins of the past.
The sin of “Corporate Sex Offender” was also known as “Wikisposure”, during the time PJ was running it.
Shortly after PJ disingenuously distanced itself from this debacle…Cynthia Jean [Dale] Harvey of AZU collected up the pages, and put them back online under the name “Evil-Unveiled”. This insane psychopath proceeded to attain hosting, and promptly get terminated for blatant terms of service violations…The site itself, and what it was doing [slandering, stalking, harassing and terrorizing people, who were simply exercising their free speech], was an indefensible violation of most terms of service…and it was also a clear hotbed, for justified law suits.
Eventually this incompetent, mentally ill, malicious woman resorted to giving the website content, to the trolls who own Encyclopedia Dramatica…Perhaps, she is a member there also…I don’t know.
I do know for a fact, however…that for roughly the past decade, the people of PJ, Cynthia and probably a few others, have actively worked to threaten, intimidate and injure me, as well as to defame my online persona.
I never did anything to any of these people…yet I was the target of their abuse, vitriol, malice and hostility…And, yes…after an epic marathon of weathering this…I have, from time to time, acknowledged what insufferable assholes they are.
Those people are criminals…and they are the worst the human species has to offer.
It has been on my mind for years, to make a proper response to the “Steve-D” [which is me] page they made.
…And you can consider this to be the second part of that response.
I don’t really care what any of these people think about me, or my ideas…It’s none of their business, that I find value in discussing particular issues…And they have no right falsely claiming me to be a “sex offender”, over my speech and ideas…Nor any right for harassing and threatening me, all of these many years.
A sane person would have agreed to disagree, and peacefully gone their own way…but not these sociopath predators of PJ and AZU.
Yes…It has become deeply personal.
These have been the historic facts behind “Evil-Unveiled”, and my prior response to it.
Note: I hadn’t noticed or watched the video present on this page, until after I was done writing this. I was merely responding to the written article. The video does have a brief description of one account [getting naked, posing and rubbing her thighs]. If you ask me…this girl looks to be coached, and is probably responding to what the adults who have her in their custody have expected out of her. I felt it necessary to acknowledge this video…She seems like a perfectly normal kid, who’s frustrated at being taken away and kept in a strange place, away from her family. Maybe, she didn’t want to do the live streams? There’s likely better ways to intervene, than this level of response.
01) How child sexual abuse became a family business in the Philippines
Why is there no description of the activities being performed in these live streams? It’s simply being called “child sexual abuse”…So, what exactly are they doing in front of the camera?
“Children see abuse as normal
In the 2011 case, the police thought the children would welcome the operation. But the undercover agent says Nicole did not feel rescued; she felt betrayed.
“I know that she is angry with me,” the woman said.
Apart from the scene witnessed as the raid took place, police say they had a video showing the mother sexually abusing her children. It was submitted by an anonymous source from a western country who used his phone to film the abuse on his computer screen.
All six of the mother’s children – three boys and three girls – were moved to a rescue centre, a row of one-storey houses on a quiet path set back from the noise of the main roads. Trees surround the houses, and the staff have planted orchids by the path. In front of the children’s house is a small playground.
The day they arrived, the children played on the swings. Unlike others at the shelter, they showed no overt signs of abuse, their social worker explained. The staff, who had never dealt with a case like this before, wondered if they should be kept in the same shelter as other children who had been physically abused by paedophiles.”
See…This is indicative of the problem, with moral imperialists inflicting themselves onto a culture, where their ideologies and phobias are not looked upon as substantiated…And the imperialists cannot figure out, why the “rescued” people don’t want them in their lives, nor why they think they are crazy. They expect to be looked upon as “heroes”…when in reality, they just destroyed a families financial lifeline…and likely interfered with children doing something they greatly enjoyed.
…Again…why is this reporter concealing the specific activities these children were engaged in?…
…If we were told what they were…would we not be sufficiently horrified?
No child is being identified…So, it would seem a brief description would be reasonable and relevant to the report.
Truth be told…they were probably spending the day licking [and touching] each others genitals, and repeatedly experiencing orgasms…
…not something that could be construed as torture…And something it’s easy to see, why they would not only enthusiastically participate…but why they would be so angry, that anybody forced them to stop.
“The children appeared oblivious to the fact that they had been exploited and it could affect them badly to realise they were abused like others around them.”
…These “professionals” are so deluded.
They are talking about kids who were raised in such a way, that their sexuality was allowed to be experienced and developed…
…This is what happens when children are offered sexual relations…Commonly, they embrace it with much enthusiasm…This is normal…
…If the child does not seem to understand that they cannot randomly engage strangers, sexually…this is more a question of teaching the child good social etiquette [and healthy practice], than anything else…
…Though, given the way these children were torn out of their normal environment, and forced to stop their regular behavior…I’d suggest that the people who took them, are most responsible for the awkward aftermath.
…You wont let them be with each other?…and you wont let them be with new people?…when they have something that they really, really, really want?
…This gets back to the whole “sexually abused children acting out”, strawman…wherein these idiots barge in on a child’s sex life, break it up…and then carry on complaining, perplexed that the children simply want to go back to their happy sex life…
…Yes…they’re not following the social mold…”so they cannot be happy”?
…A lot of these “heroes” are especially annoyed…that these children are enjoying the sex, want the sex, and are having the sex for their own purposes.
…Their prejudices are being proven starkly wrong, right in front of their faces…But they are in such deep denial, that they will never admit it.
“Directly after the arrest, the eldest boy, 16 at the time, did appear to be in shock, the psychologist Rosemarie Gonato said, but not from the abuse. “He was quite traumatised by the rescue operation.”
The two younger daughters had no idea that the abuse was anything but normal. “They said it was a business in the neighbourhood. It seemed natural to be involved in this as the other children were doing it,” she said. Police found that it was the children who first heard about live-streaming as a money maker when playing with their friends.
While the children have flourished – on the wall are photos of them, the two eldest beaming while wearing graduation hats and gowns – they are still unable, five years later, to understand the crime.”
…They have destroyed these families…done everything they can, to attempt convincing these kids they’ve been “victimized” [for sex with each other, in front of a webcam]…Yet, they are failing to successfully do such…And they cant figure out why?…The kids are described as “flourishing” in the aftermath…
…What does one even say to this degree of deranged incompetence?
A Radical Idea:
I would suggest…that these many children who discovered this opportunity, who went on to convince their parents to let them do it…were not victims at all…but conscientious pursuers, of something they were deeply interested in…I would suggest they contemplated what would happen, and decided it would be good, well before they started…I would suggest that they developed a persuasive enough argument, to convince their own parents to let them proceed…
…None of this suggests force, lack of personal desire and choice, or a likely source of personal trauma.
…I would also suggest that…apparently…sexuality is more open, in the Philippines…and that sexual activity amongst children, is more accepted…Which is astonishing, given that it is a “U.S. territory”…
…But, “they who know best” have moved in, to “correct the situation”…by inflicting senseless, extreme consequences, on people who are merely going about their lives.
Call me a perverted, idiotic degenerate, if that’s all you’ve got to respond with…
…But what I’ve expressed here, is pure honesty.
…A “news” story in The Guardian, about people who cannot figure out how human sexuality works, or why people would be angry with them for grossly interfering with their lives…
…Where do they find these clueless lunatics?
I’ve never seen the cognitive dissonance of the sex abuse industry, laid out more starkly than this…It’s utter madness.
01) PEDOPHILIA NATURAL AND NORMAL FOR MALES????????
This is someone who likes to throw stones, and lacks human empathy…He also likes to appeal to clichés and dogma…but he brings nothing of substance to the table.
…He sounds completely self absorbed, himself.
…Lecturing others about “not caring, what else is going on around the world”?…How rich…
This guy is someone who cracks open the bible, and starts dictating to people from it’s passages…believing that it is all authoritative…But how much time has he actually spent, reading the research?…reading the articles from the researchers, themselves? How much time has he spent, actually attempting to understand it all [along with it’s nuances], as opposed to ranting with knee jerk tantrums?
…Grimacing and scoffing, does not constitute a rebuttal…It only clarifies that you are a thrower of tantrums.
This guy is throwing several topics on the table, despite that none have anything to do with the original research…which he is allegedly responding to…
What does the research say?…
…It concludes that large numbers of males experience an involuntary, biological, sexual response, whenever they visually encounter the genitalia [or other parts] of a child’s body. This response is high enough, to where it is considered to be a normal response, within the male portion of our species.
Of course…many males conceal all of this, and don’t act on it…But, research is strongly pointing towards the conclusion, that it is still there in a very large portion of our species.
This isn’t really new information…It’s been known for decades, that males in particular have a natural response of this nature…It’s just now starting to make it into mainstream media.
…Does this guy display any awareness of any of this, at any point in his almost twenty minute tantrum?…No.
He asks “how is this even allowed to occur”, referencing a conference on the topic…and the [former, actually] existence of P.I.E. [the Pedophile Information Exchange]…And then makes a not so vague threat, of wanting to attend the next event “with a billy club”…
He wishes to dispute that pedophilia is loving and tender…but responds with “can you believe this?!”…
…I tell you what “Uprising”…You find someone competent to do an exhaustive worldwide research study, wherein they conclusively find zero cases of a loving and tender child with pedophile relationship…where they show with absolute certainty, with no question whatsoever, that loving and tender relationships like this never happen…and the method through which they are rendered naturally, biologically impossible of happening…
People asserting their “god doesn’t approve”, “sex is icky” or “this doesn’t fit into our social structure” bias, don’t count.
You manage that…and I might start to take you seriously…
…As things stand…you are just completely ignorant, and you don’t even know the issue you are attempting to talk about. You’re one of those people who likes to talk, talk, talk, attack, attack, attack…when you should be silent, set down and let other people teach you…so that you can actually learn something real and true…
…But, that doesn’t earn you followers and popularity on YouTube, does it?…Far easier to be a belligerent, contemptuous jerk, threatening violence against others…how “Christianly” of you.
He seemingly tries to dispute a quote about personal experiences of pedophiles, and how we know from our own childhoods, that children are not asexual…
…but doesn’t actually do so.
…He talks about “intellectual and big words, and giving reasoning behind these views”…taking none of it into account…Apparently, the words are too intellectual and big for him…They are just fine for any thinking person of average intelligence, I’d say.
You know…the very existence of the pedophile, who was naturally sexual as a child and personally comprehended it [which is my own experience, by the way], dispels the myth of the asexual child.
Those of us who lived this existence, all those years of our own childhood…we know that whitewashing people like us, is an outrageous lie on the part of the establishment…We know for a literal fact, that society is in deep, deep, deep denial…
…Apparently, some of you weren’t as sexual [didn’t have as strong a sexual drive?] as others of us…or, you just didn’t comprehend it in the same way as us…which is a fair enough observation, and would make for interesting, informative research, I think…
I know all of this is inconvenient for those of you who don’t like to think about it…but it’s reality…Maybe, you should learn to live in reality, like so many of us have had to?
If you need an invitation…I’ll offer one right now.
No…you are not allowed to strip us of our childhood cognition, nor our sexual identity…And, yes…many of us were [and are] acutely aware of our attractions, and our sexual intentions, as children…
…Your entirely lame mockery of this fact, does nothing to disprove it.
…I, for one, am amongst the untold numbers, who were not traumatized by sexual touch as a child…Being amongst that demographic, and knowing the inhumane hostility shown towards people like me…I demand deeper research into people like me, into our life experiences, and into why we did not turn out traumatized by sexual touch…in hopes that one day, we can move society past it’s phobia and intolerance, of people who’ve had different sexual experiences from “the majority”.
…Is this unreasonable?…Is this not a worthy pursuit?…Is it really so incomprehensible?
…You, are just fighting to keep a broken, anti-human social system afloat.
Unless this guy comes up with something unique in the remainder of his tantrum, I am done.
This video is bankrupt of any substance…Just some ignorant guy with a motor mouth, spouting off “what everybody knows”, who feels no compulsion to search, explore and grow his mind…He doesn’t even seem to comprehend, that he is scoffing at the real life experiences of real, living human beings…or why these real life experiences should be respectfully taken seriously…
…No…just more of the same old, demonizing, dehumanizing bullshit.
…And “we talk about it, as if it’s a misunderstanding of the public”?…
…The public is demonstrably ignorant about pedophilia, on a level which is outright incompetent…And you think you’re just going to scoff it off, again?…You are amongst the ignorant and incompetent.
…Lots of spooky, cliché talking points being employed, I see…lame…the hallmark of an impotent mind.
You don’t think that pedophilia and hebephilia are normal in males?…Consider this…
Across history and cultures, acceptable “sexual maturity” has ranged widely, based upon variables in the natural world, and variables in social politics…It still ranges widely, today. The primary factor tends to be, what social structure is dominant in any given culture. In general, people are expected to emulate one another, and follow the “normal” life path set forth as “proper and best”, by whomever is looked upon as authority. They want you to act and behave in certain ways, based on [typically rigid] ideological life phases…Many social structures do not make allowance for deviation, from their forceful intentions for you. They feel sexuality is incompatible with certain life phases, and punish people for experiencing such sexuality.
…Problem is…science and empirical research do not actually support this intolerance…and they’ve had to manipulate and strong arm research studies over many decades, to make it appear otherwise.
What males typically go for sexually, depends overwhelmingly on whatever is socially allowed…You can follow this trend, in every social culture you look at. You lower the age of consent to twelve, and when the stigma has faded away…tons of people will be openly taking twelve year olds to bed with them…and feeling no shame over it.
Of course, a massive amount of the male population experiences these kinds of impulses…They’re just under the surface…Just deep enough, for plausible deniability…but get rid of the prohibition and stigma, and we will find what the true statistics are…probably quickly.
Keep in mind, however…it does not make someone predatory, when they are merely attracted to someone younger and smaller than themselves, nor when they wish to share a sexual experience with such a person.
Offering something and giving pleasure to another accepting human being is not predatory behavior, no matter what age they are.
…It is an out and out filthy lie to call us predators, for being like this…
…Predators do not behave like us.
…We do not behave like predators.
People who viciously attack us…people who are constantly targeting us…You people are predators, by literal definition.
We “pedophiles” are not attacked for literally being cruel and violent towards children…That’s a stereotype and a straw man, based on a combination of rare cases and convoluted news reporting…We are attacked so viciously, because “authorities” in our culture don’t want children being sexually active…It’s sexual suppression…No allowance is made, for the natural sexual activity of children…They, and those who would otherwise be with them, are threatened to “abstain, or else”…
The stereotyping, demonization, constant shaming and threatening…these are all methods, of psychologically imposing not only a barrier on children and pedophiles…but also imposing a violently hateful intolerance, amongst the general population [most of whom don’t even know where fact diverges from fantasy, when it comes to this issue].
…So, you bring up and talk about your cliché stereotypes…about the nightmares and trauma, experienced by children who were sexually brutalized…But most of that wasn’t even done by actual pedophiles…And these things do not act as a true representation, of people like us…Those are cherry picked distortions you are throwing about.
We live in a variety of ways…Many of us are sexually celibate…Many are sexually active in legal and ethical ways…Many of us abstain, despite knowing that prohibition aimed against us is a sham.
We are not judged based on who we are, as individual human beings…
…We’re judged based on whether or not “authorities” think we get in the way…as they groom children into being mindless, working drones, keeping the “authorities” in power…and keeping the rigid social structure in place.
Our true threat as pedophiles, is to the establishment…it’s to the people who gain so much, in things being the way they are…it’s to the people who stand to lose their power, money and control, should this social structure no longer exist.
…They play off the fears and phobias of the many…telling them that children [and everybody] will be raped, pillaged and murdered, without their “authoritative” iron fist to protect them all.
Positive and benign sexuality has nothing to do with any of that…
…They don’t want to respect, honor and value pedophiles [or sexually active children, for that matter]…because they foolishly believe, they will never have to…nor that they’ll have to answer for the way they maltreat us.
People like this guy, are what is wrong with the world…They just want to walk all over other people, spit in their faces and beat them down with a billy club…Because they are too cowardly, shallow and self absorbed, to reach out and find peaceful solutions.
The social disease is not pedophiles and perverts…It’s people like this guy, who fight to keep all of us at each others throats.
…It’s time to kick these divisive shysters to the curb…and let all of us good, kind, sensible and knowledgeable people [who genuinely care about each other] build a better, more peaceful world.
Let the war mongers fight amongst themselves…We have no use for them.
Okay…I’ve had enough of wading through this brain numbing tantrum…And I’m only about half way through…If anyone else wishes to pick at this [it’s like spearing fish in a barrel]…have at it.
As a side note…”Uprising’s” video entrance is amusing enough to watch, once or twice…but it’s about a minute and fifteen seconds long…and it gets insanely annoying, fast [if you’re browsing their videos]…Short YouTube videos don’t need a long, canned introduction…It’s crazy to give them one…and probably most of this guys viewers are skipping ahead to the 1:15 mark, by now.
I wish more YouTubers of this sort would get a clue about such things…They are not so grand and glorious, that they need this kind of time wasting parade, to announce their arrival…
…A two to five second little ditty is perfect…and some people even manage to make those, painfully annoying to watch…
…Unless your making a commercial show…I wish the intros on “cottage YouTube videos” would just go away…They are senseless and annoying.
Oh good grief…And he’s evoking Satanism too?
I ask you sincerely, who deserves these words of vulgar abuse and hate, merely for daring to live, love and be loved?…
Have no doubt, that Child Love and Teen Love are a pure form of love…genuine and worthy of defense, no matter what some may say about it…
“Religious freedom is one of the basic rights guaranteed to Americans in the Constitution. But just how far should that freedom extend?
Across the country, lawmakers have carved out exemptions from common rules for religious groups, ranging from immigration to land use. According to an analysis by The New York Times, more than 200 exemptions for religious groups were folded into congressional legislation from 1989 to 2006.
These loopholes are meant to give church groups the freedom to practice their religion without government interference. But religious exemptions also can lead to problems, as we explore in our latest episode: Scam artists who claim to be religious have taken advantage of these exemptions, and children have been hurt.
Here are a few troubling examples of these exemptions, several of which you can hear about in this week’s episode of Reveal.”
I about fell over, when I heard that judge [who supports the religious school] reference “the child’s constitutional rights” being violated [by police raiding the school, and taking them into custody]…
…Having been a child who grew up in that general kind of setting…I can tell you, that a child’s constitutional rights [whatever meager ones may exist, in the first place] are very likely trounced all over, and violated on a regular basis…by their forced subjugation to this kind of religious institution.
They typically have little to no say, in whether or not they end up in such a place…and what happens to them, as result of being sent there. They’re subjected to an overwhelming saturation of religious indoctrination, without a choice in the matter…Heck, normally, their entire foundation on which they form a view of the world around them, is whatever these institutions want to tell them…no matter how rationally and ethically dubious [or even heinous]…And they can be severely punished, for not accepting these things.
I’m not implying all religious schools are as bad as the one featured in this episode…But I am asserting, that a lot of abusive manipulation and control goes on in them, because of their very premise and nature.
It often outrages me…how people can get all bent out of shape, and attribute all manner of ills to Child Lovers and Teen Lovers [for simply having an intimate relationship with a child or teen]…while at the exact same time, religious institutions get away with this flagrant abuse and manipulation of children and teens […and even older people, of all age groups].
Speaking as a product of a K-12 religious school…I can tell you, they are a poor primer for life in the real world…In fact, they are a handicap for developing the skills to get along in the world. You grow up ultra sheltered in these environments…You’re taught to believe, think and reason “just so” [and ostracized, if you don’t], by the people who teach you, essentially, everything [at that point in your life]…They do everything in their power, to be your sole source of trusted knowledge, information and exposure…They feed it all to you, “just so”…and they manipulate you, into being scared of seeking, or accepting, outside sources…
…Then, after most of two decades…you get dumped into the real world, without any real skills [because what these places offer, is typically the bare basics of education, with a few meager electives (A massive pitfall of these places, is that they are rarely linked into any larger educational systems…they are isolated islands, with limited resources…They cannot offer, even what your typical public school can.)…and a ton of entirely useless knowledge on their specific style of theology…unless, by chance, you want to be a preacher or missionary, in that religion]…You’re not sure what to do with yourself…You’re saddled with a fear and distrust of the world around you…
…It’s just a complete and utter mess…You’ve quite literally been set up to fail, in this world and in life…And for the life of me…I cannot understand why so many others don’t see this…
…These places groom you, to be an awkward, maladjusted, fearful failure in life…
…When you’re no longer under their thumb…and reality of the world starts sinking in…So much of what they have taught you, starts crumbling away…And it’s like the worlds biggest sucker punch…It’s bewildering…It’s infuriating.
It’s like you’ve been dumped into some “total recall” movie world…where everything you previously thought you knew, is now discovered by you to be dubious…or even outlandishly wrong…And it’s completely debasing, on a full life scale…And you don’t really even know where to go from there…
…How can this not be psychologically damaging?…How can anybody believe that it is not?…or that there shouldn’t be anything done about it?…
…Getting back to societies insane, hostile reactions to natural, human sexuality…and how it forcefully imposes such unsubstantiated fear and blame upon it…I’ve found it to be the utter height of grotesque hypocrisy…that religious institutions are praised for doing what I’ve discussed here…while at the same time, the wrath of society against human sexuality [especially us taboo groups], is never thought to be unrestrained enough…
…They’ll outright make up incredulous things to say about us sexual minorities, just so they can attack us…while totally ignoring that giant in the room, which is eating children alive, and doing demonstrable damage to them…
…And commonly, that very exact same giant they refuse to acknowledge, gains power and comes from their own mentality…their own, social psychology…It runs rampant, based on their own mixture of approval an apathy. It’s truly sickening hypocrisy.
…Keep in mind…I’m strictly talking about how they groom you on the basics of life, here…
…I’ve not even gotten into the myriad of issues, of how it devastates you, when growing up part of a sexual minority…trapped in this kind of toxic environment…
…Allowing these institutions to do that to children and teens…is outright demented, cruel, inhumane…and as close to pure evil, as anything can be…It drives many of us to suicide.
People who imagine that children choose, for themselves, these environments to grow up in…they have no clue…
…And to suggest it’s “constitutional protection” to keep them there…or more accurately, force them to remain in such an environment [so long as their parents or guardians wish it]…That is about as psychologically demented, as broken rationality gets.
If the [U.S.] constitution cared about the rights and well being of [U.S.] children…it would never allow these religious institutions, to do all of these deeply destructive and injurious things to [U.S.] children…
…But hey…they’re way to busy worrying about children of the world, getting to much physical intimacy…to ever worry about such real world problems, that inflict real world injury on real world children [who have to live with the aftermath]…
…Some social agendas are more profitable, than others…Some are more politically correct, than others…Some are more easy as ideological tools, to force social engineering…
…Some are just the unlucky, “odd men out”.
…I wish humans would pry their collective head from their collective behind…stop lying to themselves, and figure out which things honestly matter the most…what is most fundamentally important…
…Incase you haven’t figured it out yet…Invisible creatures in the sky, who hate us being sexually kind and intimate with each other [amongst all sorts of other character traits], and who wish us to hate ourselves and/or be killed for such natural inclinations…those should never, ever, ever, ever, be any part of a list…regarding what we need, for a healthy world.
01) Boko Haram Slaughters 86 In Nigeria, Burns Children Alive
“Extremist group Boko Haram fighters burned several children to death during an attack on a village in northeastern Nigeria, killing at least 86 people. Fighters from the extremist group firebombed Dalori village and opened fire on civilians Saturday evening…”
01) ‘How the hell do you sleep at night?’ Salon blasted for ‘trying to mainstream pedophilia’ – The Twitchy Staff
02) Responses to Salon on Twitter
I agree with Todd…What we are seeing here, is the effects of psychological infantilizing…which produces many people, who you cannot even communicate intelligently with.
The Todd Nickerson Salon article fallout, is a prime example of total comprehension shutdown…and attempted strangulation, against dialogue which is at least a step in the general right direction [something which is so painfully rare, in this field].
You can check out the two links…and the responses…
It’s mostly a sea of hyperbole…lots of people who didn’t likely even read the article, and never even dreamed of looking closer at the tenants of Virtuous Pedophiles…
…If they had done such…they’d at least know VP does not support sexual contact with minors, nor child pornography…They are pronouncedly against these things.
VP members can correct me, if they feel they must…but from what I’ve seen…their mission is two fold…
…They wish to stop sexual assault and abuse on children…and they wish to make the life existence of “pedophiles” [MAPs] bearable, supported, stable, ethical and legal.
Both of these are objectively good [even if not everybody agrees with the nuances of their stances].
The only people out there in the mainstream masses, who could possibly object to these things…are those who harbor an inhumane, homicidal cruelty towards “pedophiles” [MAPs]…
…And frankly…those who don’t even understand who we are, as a demographic…nor the issues surrounding and affecting us…even though many of these people falsely believe that they do know, “all that they need to know”.
…What they know, is rarely nothing more than grotesque ignorance…And it is a pitiful disgrace, that they are making these types of reactions, based upon such pitiful lack of coherent knowledge.
What you are seeing here…is unbridled emotion…It is hysterics.
…And it really brings to light, why so many of us hate dealing with “the masses”…
…What they are saying, is not based in objective reality…Their heads are not engaged in objective reality…And they barrage you, in large [even massive] packs…often with an outright vicious onslaught.
Their effect…is often intimidation…and deliberate hijacking of an issue…or of an attempt at constructive dialogue.
Notice how so few of the commentators on the massive Twitter feed, fail in being absolutely wrong [and indefensibly so] in their characterization of the article, itself.
…They don’t even display a working comprehension, on what just got discussed…despite that it was laid out for them, very simply.
VP has got to be one of the least socially controversial “pedophile” [MAP] groups out there…So much so, they pretty much mirror popular public sentiment, on issues involving children and sex…Their only divergence I can see, is that they don’t accept the many inhumane ways in which society abuses “pedophiles” [MAPs]…
…Their reasons for taking this divergent stance, are well explained, highly logical…and to my mind, have always been the obvious social evolution forward.
You cannot viciously mischaracterize people…and treat them according to your vicious mischaracterizations…and expect that this somehow works out for the best, in society.
It’s an abysmal recipe, for total disaster.
…Members of VP understand this…and do so on a personal level.
They also understand [just as I have, for decades]…it is imperative that we “pedophiles” [MAPs] fight on behalf of your children…Because many of them are MAPs…and we know what it is like, to grow up MAP in this world…And looking at these responses…it is clear that many of these children, have parents who outwardly express a desire to violently murder them…
…Have you any idea what this psychologically does to a person, let alone a child, subjecting them to this over a lifetime?
The people who are flooding this kind of noxious behavior onto others, are the problem…not the “pedophiles” [MAPs].
With regards to people like that…
…You often feel like you have to put on “kid gloves”, and walk on egg shells, just to create this sort of psychological buffer…when trying to hold a dialogue with “the mainstream”…Because they prove themselves, in large part, of being incapable of rising to the occasion.
…You cant just talk straight with them…because they cant deal with it, when someone speaks honestly about these issues.
…No matter the intent, nor how constructive the dialogue…they just act to shut it down.
This is not just my opinion…It is consistent observation, over decades of watching and dealing with them.
…Most display an obsession with hysterics, and a violent overtone.
Some make outright terrorist threats.
…All while remaining completely divorced, from the actual dialogue and facts at hand.
These are the reasons why I tell other MAPs, you cannot let yourself drown in that kind of a setting…You cannot let “the mainstream” dictate the pace and flavor of the discussion [you must hold that control, yourself…or only share it with those, who demand a constructive dialogue].
…It’s why I don’t apologize, for accurately placing these “masses” in their rightful categories…as people who are there to provide resistance, helping us hone our own stances, arguments, tactics and behaviors…and who are there for us to use, as tools for our own purposes.
There should be groups of MAPs, screen capturing and documenting these types of vicious onslaught, aimed at tame, mild and constructive dialogue with MAPs [and the people engaged in it].
We should have a massive database of this…have it on display for the world to see…and be demanding that there be real world consequence, for that type of online terrorism [much of which openly threatens murder and violence, in a world setting where real MAPs have been the victims of murder and violence].
We should be holding the feet of society, government and law enforcement to the fire, even if only based on this issue, alone.
What’s so pathetic…is that groups like VP bend over backwards, to cater to the dominant world view on adult minor sexual relations, held by most of the exact same people commenting here…
…They are on the exact same page, more less…Yet these people cant even be bothered, to take a little time and figure this out.
Instead, they just want to spew bile and act like lunatics, against people who overwhelmingly agree with them on adult minor sex issues…
I guess they enjoy shooting themselves in the foot.
What we are witnessing here, is prejudice and fanaticism at it’s worst…
…They cant even figure out, when they are attacking people who are key to making the world safer for minors.