Category Archives: Newgon

“How Dare You!”: Pedophiles Are Not Jews, Blacks, Gays, etc, etc…


Date: April 24, 2010

This was supposed to be an article, for Newgon’s Uncommon Sense magazine. Unfortunately, Uncommon Sense went on hiatus…and presumably has been stuck in limbo, for the past few years.

As to addressing objections and outrage, expressed in response to identifying parallels in the treatment and plight of scapegoated minorities…

Many people get the wrong impression, when someone brings up Jews, or black slavery, gays & lesbians, the sorts of things that were done to them, and how those things parallel what is being done to pedophiles and ephebophiles, in our modern world today.

It is important to understand a few things, and not allow ourselves to get carried away with outrage, over false notions of “how creepy pedophiles have the gall, to insult the death, slavery and suffering of innocent and good Jews, blacks and gays, by claiming it was all on par with a right to child rape“…

We are not implying, that all variable factors are “even, across the board”, as relates to all targeted minorities.

No, every situation is unique.

What we are talking about, are the specific social, and political, tactics, that are employed against the most harshly treated, disenfranchised minorities, under the intention of crippling their abilities to attain equal social status and political power [or influence].

Generally speaking…

…Whether we are talking about the Jews, Blacks, Native Americans, Gays & Lesbians, or the pedophiles and ephebophiles [and any number of other socially abused groups]…the schemes, tricks and tactics employed to hurt those groups, have been overwhelmingly the same, all along.

…Things like…

a) Chronic exposure of the public to propaganda…

b) Character assassination…

c) Creation and enforcement of stereotypes…

d) Extreme levels of censorship aimed at opposing viewpoints…

e) Manipulation of studies [corrupting data, skewing “findings”, and concealing important information]…

f) creating an atmosphere of threat and intimidation…

g) Organising to destroy the careers of key individuals…

h) Conducting boycotts [and harassment campaigns] against publishers and businesses [ie: book sellers] that would dare give certain people a voice…

i) Organising to smear and stigmatise the sound research, and educated opinions of others who disagree with them, even including highly respected experts in the field.

j) Sabotaging attempts at honest discussion, and treating such honest discussion, as if it were profanity, or “insane”…and never worthy of thoughtful consideration.

k) Promoting contempt against the targeted minority [while contending, this is the only right response], and often with a very personal viciousness…

l) Exploitation of targeted minorities [for financial & political gains, career advancement, etc].

m) Social ostracizing, imprisonment and “hospitalization”, of people who are objectively harmless.

All of these behaviors and tactics, have been employed as weapons against every one of the previously mentioned minorities.

Looking back on history, most people seem to regard the maltreatment of said minorities, as having been unspeakable inhumanity, and a blight on human history…but, this is only after the initial social hysteria has passed, and the political stranglehold of oppressive groups has been broken.

Today, we are free to say that Adolf lied about the Jews, or that the U.S. lied about Native Americans, blacks and gays, without much fear of being personally imprisoned, assaulted, murdered, reduced in social standing , or having property vandalised.

We are perfectly free, to pick through all the articles, studies, movies, enacted laws, social programs, etc, etc, with a fine tooth comb, and point out what a bunch of manipulative, horrendously abusive, exploitative and dishonest dirt bags, the people behind them were…because the people behind those acts of cruel inhumanity, are no longer in power [most are dead].

When we attempt to look at these exact same, abusive behaviors, being employed in a time era where the stigma and hysterics are at their height of intensity…

…scarcely few people are willing to point out the obvious abuses, or show some integrity by standing up to the abusive people behind them.

…It’s “not their fight”…or “to dangerous”…or “to costly” to themselves…

Yet, just because so much of the human species is timid, whenever there is a real battle still to be fought, and hence most will not even acknowledge it unless forced to…this in no way discredits, that what is happening to pedophiles and ephebophiles today, is nothing more than the same old, tired, political, vicious cycle, that has been going on in human cultures, all throughout human history.

It is called scapegoating…

…It is called socialised predatory exploitation…

It may be half a century, or more, before pedophiles and ephebophiles, are publicly acknowledged amongst the ranks, of those other previously mentioned groups…or that the majority finally admit, what was done to us, how we suffered because of it, and who was behind these acts of cruel inhumanity.

What is happening to us today, will never be acknowledged by the majority of people, who are alive today.

This will not happen, until it is safe for people to get educated and speak their own mind.

Most simply are not pioneers, forging human rights…Most are followers, waiting for someone else to clear the path.

…When this happens…well…Hitler bashing abounds almost everywhere today, now doesn’t it?…

To bring this full circle, let me end with this comment…

No amount of turning away, ignoring or denial, is ever going to refute the fact, that pedophiles and ephebophiles, are suffering from many of the exact same tactics, which were imposed upon Jews, blacks, Native Americans, gays & lesbians, and various other exploited, oppressed groups, throughout human history.

I readily acknowledge, that pedophiles and ephebophiles, are not currently being rounded up, and taken off to death camps, nor are we being kept like chattel and forced to work fields, nor is anyone legally allowed to massacre us…

The tactics of predatory, social manipulation have evolved since those days…Today, it is much more murky, and even put forward as “more humane”.

Yet, pedophiles and ephebophiles still have many parallels, and they still have vitalities of their natural lives robbed of them…They still lose so much, and they still have inhumane things done to them.

Debate about “inconsistencies of severity” all you like…It does not matter.

Corrupt, abusive, inhumane behavior, is still corrupt, abusive, inhumane behavior, no matter how it is packaged and marketed…

…and it needs to be identified, confronted, and put to an end, no matter where it manifests from.

One of the biggest failings of our species, is that we rarely, if ever, rise to the immediate challenge in social conflict…We rarely seem to take action, in the moment where it is most vital to do so.

This is why scapegoating, and socialised predatory exploitation, are allowed to not only exist…but to thrive, in wondrous prosperity.

As a practical matter, why don’t we address this root social problem, bring it to an end, and allow all groups to have a factually accurate representation?

…Then the majority of people might begin to understand, that we are not insulting Jews, blacks, Native Americans, or gays & lesbians, at all…

…We would certainly solve many social problems, if we ever did employ such a level of honesty.

An EQF Symbol?…


Date: March 3, 2014

…re: Newgon’s flag proposals…

…re: Newgon’s flag proposals…

…Newgon Flag Proposal 2009…

…Newgon Flag Proposal 2009…

Several years ago Newgon opened up a bulletin board, and one of the earliest efforts was forging a new symbol, or flag as it were, to represent more of an alliance amongst all of the Child Love and Teen Love minorities.

This was a unique and valid effort, as nothing quite like Newgon had existed previously…and the vision of bringing the groups together, meant that a symbol to represent this union was needed.

Unfortunately, this eventually ran out of steam…There was no consensus, on what to choose…As the effort languished on for a couple of years, it started to feel kind of embarrassing [to my mind, anyway], that the issue was still left open.

At this point, I look upon it as an abandoned project…

One of the submissions which never got included in the linked archive, was an idea I put together a rough draft of…The original is below.

MAP_Flag_Project

The smaller circles, pink and blue, represent children…both girls and boys…The larger, light blue circle represents teens and young adults…The largest, purple circle represents adults…They are all interlinked, to represent a bond amongst these different groups, and how their lives and support are linked with one another.

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Another board member named Pyro took my idea, and made his own version…reducing the circles to equal size, to represent a balanced equality amongst children, teens and adults. This one clearly looks better…and I thought it was a nice representation, of my concept.

MAP_Flag_Project2

I also produced a second version, having the smaller girl and boy circles inside of a larger purple circle…to represent nurturing and protection of children and young people. It’s a rough draft like the original, however.

I’ve thought about incorporating Pyro’s version into the EQF, finally giving the EQF a proper symbol…crest…whatever you want to call it…an iconic trademark…

Maybe I will.

…But since Chuck brought up this issue on BoyChat, I thought it might be a good time to share these few things, as I dig them out of my archive after a handful of years.

What you see in this post, are a few of the lost submissions to the Newgon flag project of 2009.

Newgon and NAMBLA Covered in Media…


Date: October 20, 2009

Yellow Journalism, At It’s Absolute Worst

Somer Thompson, of Orange Park, Florida, was a seven year old girl who was kidnapped, raped and murdered [and possibly brutalized, in additional ways]…Her body was found in a large dump, in October of 2009.

Amidst the early unfolding of this case…A radio talk show celebrity from Florida, Malcolm Out Loud, decided that he [and his cast] was going to mentally tie both Newgon and NAMBLA to this horrific tragedy, by using an extremely loose and convoluted path, to pull them into his rabid ranting.

This was done entirely without the input [or likely even knowledge], of anybody from either group…Malcolm chose a scant few quotes from the Newgon website, but did not even attempt to give a full or balanced representation, of what we were factually doing or about. The chosen quotes, seemed conveniently cherry picked, to vaguely fit in with the Somer Thompson case.

In short…that “Malcolm Out Loud” episode was a complete outrage, a deep insult and an attack against anyone who was involved with either Newgon or NAMBLA…Naturally, some of us took very strong issue with this.

What follows, is my initial response on the Newgon forum, when this issue was first brought up.

Regrettably [or not?], it looks as though the show episode in question is no longer online…So, the link is dead…This has also brought to a stand still, a page I wrote to address this very same issue…Eventually, I may post that statement, anyway.

One very last comment…As a Child Lover…I wish larger society would come to actually understand, that a great many of us Child Lovers take the fate of children like Somer Thompson very deeply serious. It is every bit the same senseless tragedy in our eyes, as it is in the eyes of most people…including parents. The work we were doing at Newgon, had absolutely nothing to do with promoting what has happened to children like Somer Thompson. To suggest otherwise, is an egregious lie…and blatantly dispelled, upon actually visiting Newgon and reading it’s content…interacting with it’s participants…

Many things motivate us Child Lovers…Human rights and children’s rights, are amongst those things…Let me be clear…What happened to Somer Thompson, is in no way compatible with human rights or children’s rights…She was denied both, in what happened to her…

Additionally…one of my personal focuses, has always been on bringing Child Love [and Teen Love] out into the open, and combating the stigma and isolation caused by social intolerance. In my opinion, these deeply damaging effects of social intolerance, play no small role in what has happened to children like Somer Thompson…They create people, like the one who did that to her. Also, while we remain underground…we can never get a stronger handle, on these types of tragedies. Many of us Child Lovers, actively want better social support and structure within our own community, in order to stymie as many of these types of cases as possible.

The visions of Child Lovers [and Teen Lovers], often compliment children’s rights and child safety…Which is a fact of truth, you will never hear from a raving lunatic like Malcolm.


Newgon Link [dead link]

The Show [dead link]

How thoughtful of them, to couch all this, between unrelated, repeated reports of a small girl that just got kidnapped [possibly raped] and brutally murdered.

Much, to much rhetoric…much, to much propaganda…not much level headed, common sense, or signs of informed knowledge…

In short…Malcolm is a parrot.

Not so bad for free publicity, I guess…even if it is incompetently biased.

A few points…

1) If Malcolm and crew honestly cared about “the good people” coming together in support of child protection, then they would stop spreading disinformation, actually take the time to come here, learn and understand what this group is about [as opposed to surmising a ridiculous, skewed caricature of this site, and the people here], and realize that many of the good people, are already here.

2) The purpose of this site, is not to give encouragement, information or blessings, with regard to actual child rape, child murder, child kidnapping, or any other form of violence [if it were, I would not be associated in any way]. It is an online resource, which is filling a very vital need, in a world which is direly bankrupt of free flowing, fact based information on various forms of stigmatised human sexuality. Newgon is an answer to censorship.

3) I am not sure about his stats, but these “over two thousand children reported missing, every day”…someone needs to educate Malcolm, that the overwhelming majority of these invariably turn out to be runaways and children abducted by their own parents [who are fleeing the area, and taking the child without the other parents permission]. To use this information in a show such as this one, in such a vague manner, and let it hang out there with all it’s implications, is grossly incompetent at best, and possibly malicious.

4) “One in three children molested”, is a speculative projection, which is far from being substantiated…and I would pose the question, if such a staggering percentage of the population is molested as a child, and molestation is so devastating…then why have we not seen these tidal waves of “injured and broken” people, coming out of the woodwork, and being so debilitated as to cause our society to collapse, by the sheer volume of people unable to cope [with the myriad of, seemingly endless, and weird, chronic conditions that allegedly result for a lifetime from “sexual molestation” (any illegal, sexual touch)]?

5) If Malcolm is not even going to pretend to strive for integrity here, then this can be dismissed as media tripe…and I am not hearing anything, that tells me this guy has the first clue, about what he is trying to articulate…just a lot of spooky language, numbers/stats out of context…all leading up to a glut of propaganda…though, I’m sure it kept a lot of people listening to his show [and it’s all about ratings, isn’t it?].

6) Somehow, they conflate what is done here with “criminality”…Does that even deserve a response, aside from pointing out, that any hint of their credibility left, is utterly killed by this display of mammoth ignorance?

7) “Should be banned”…Malcolm and his cast are fascists and censors, in addition.

8) Another clueless dork, who hasn’t heard of NAMBLA, in spite of the many times it’s made national news, and been lampooned over the years?…but, of course, he’s going to go on, opening his ignorant mouth, and letting whatever he supposes/pleases fall out. Yes, NAMBLA has been out there for a while…at least 30 years…

9) The flippancy by which Malcolm dismisses [and I would say, mocks] the groups and information he is trying to smear, is outright shameful.

10) Another ignorant, who thinks that written accounts of personal sexual experiences, can be deemed “child porn”…This show is from Florida? If Newgon were hosted in some place like Canada, this might be a more dicey situation, and there might be such a danger [no matter how ludicrous]. Written testimonials, and discussions, of childhood sexuality are not illegal in the USA, nor should they ever be. Such a law would be soundly unconstitutional, and indefensible. It is a terrible embarrassment to the USA, that people who put themselves forward as the media motivators, personalities and leaders, are so obscenely ignorant about basic national law, and civil rights.

11) Doesn’t pay attention to “this kind of nonsense”…what a self absorbed, contemptuous and ignorant comment. These kinds of groups and sites, are a direct response to social stigma, social panic and obscene over reaction. These kinds of groups exist, because we live in a world today, where even young children are being arrested, sometimes incarcerated in detention facilities, and being branded a “sex offender”, complete with life long registration, community outing to anyone who can access the information, and all over nothing more than healthy, human sexuality. We exist, because of the predatory exploitation against us. We exist, because we cannot get a fair and accurate representation, any other way. We exist, because aggressive, predatory social groups, have relentlessly sought to get as much human sexuality as possible, legally reclassified as “rape”, or “assault”, completely irregardless of it’s factual nature…and largely, they have succeeded, to an alarming degree. We exist, because it is time to step up, and if we do nothing, then all these children so many claim to want to “save from harm” [and untold numbers of other, good people], will continue to be fed to their “utopian machine”…because, they fancy themselves as knowing what’s best, for everyone in the human species, everywhere and at all times…and I could go on…

12) Malcolm fails to understand, how disseminating information, writing articles and putting forward a stance, is different from “breaking the law”, by “playing with little people”, as he puts it. He probably wont read this, but just for the record…when a group/minority has had certain outlets of expression/engagement made illegal, they still do have the legal right [in the USA] to voice their opposition to said prohibition. They still have every right, to explain themselves, and their viewpoints. Considering the ruthless stereotype that “pedophiles” are saddled with, it is imperative that someone comes forward, and attempts to quell public hysteria.

My diagnosis is…Malcolm and his crew, are small minded ignorants, who just want to shoot off their mouths, and smear people like us with the fall out of a small girls, extremely tragic murder.

Maybe we should return the favor, and start spreading nasty rumors, that Malcolm and his cast are cannibals, who prefer harvesting three year olds from playgrounds?

…It’s only fair…