Category Archives: Reality Disputing, Institutionalized Cultural Lies

Basic Practicality in Man/Boy Love…


Date: April 25, 2010

…BC Post…

…BC Post…

Since advancement of human culture, man/boy love, has always been one of the most logical, practical ways of dealing with boyhood sexuality.

Ultimately, boys have sex…and, at pretty well all age stages, once they have been placed in social environments [ie: school].

…not all boys, of course…but, certainly a high enough percentage of them, to where we know, childhood sexuality is a very real aspect of human life. Those who deny this, are simply not being honest…or displaying incompetent ignorance.

Kids, even very young kids, are being caught doing sexual things, all the time…and how many more, are never being discovered?

Some people trivialise it, saying they were “sexualised”…and it’s all just “mindless mimicking, of what they saw”…Yet, these same kids, typically exhibit a personal, sexual arousal…and a personal, sexually motivated drive, to do these things…

This is true, even when they lack the words, and the mental concepts, to be able to communicate these things.

We cannot deny, that sexuality is an inherent part of being human…and, nearly all humans are sexual beings…fully capable of receiving, and engaging, sexual intimacies and pleasures.

Kids are having sex.

Despite however many people do not like this…it happens to be true…and it happens to be true, everywhere you go.

This is because, we are biologically hardwired, to sexually mate, to have sexual companions, and to experience regular, sexual stimulation and release. Age makes little difference in this natural, inborn drive. It is like hunger for food…The drive is just part of our natural biology.

In most cultures, it is inconvenient, to have close relatives producing offspring with each other…for many reasons. And, it has become even more inconvenient, to simply have people below certain ages, producing offspring, at all [even though, this was perfectly acceptable, even desirable, in fairly recent human history].

With sexually transmitted diseases becoming a concern, the focus has been on preventing vast numbers, and ranges, of people…from doing what comes most natural to them, and what is a key factor, in leading a healthy, happy, fulfilled and confident life.

Abstinence does not work…

It simply does not work, and this has been soundly demonstrated, over and over. It only makes for ignorant children, who grow into ignorant adults…

…and these children/teens, are still having sex.

Something the Romans and Greeks understood…

It has always been more practical, to leave open the door, for a generous, sexual indulgence, in a safe and controlled context, as opposed to enforcing strict prohibition, through threat and violence.

When sex is forced underground, it still happens…sometimes, more than it would, if it were openly accepted…The only thing is, “checks and balances” are lost…and, generally more naive, less experienced, people are engaging in bad sex [sex that is not really great sex], and sometimes doing dangerous things.

A typical life path, for young boys who have sex, would include brief encounters, with several different girls.

We all knew these boys, while growing up…They were always on the lookout, for any opportunity to have sex. When they had not done it in a while, you might see them consistently begging one, or more, girls, to have sex with them. They could spend a lot of time, just chasing after sex with any willing girl.

When this paid off, of course…that boy would then employ his bragging rights, and notch off another one of the school girls, on his list…Of course, the quality of the sex, whether it was worth the cost [to all involved], and how much sex he got out of all this, are the questions of deeper importance.

For all their effort, most of these boys merely get a girl, who’s willing to get naked, and lie still on her back…just to let him get on top, and mate her.

Depending on various factors, that may be it…That may be the very last time, this boy and that girl, ever have sex again…but, they’ve already taken this step, and “chemically mixed”, so to speak.

If that boy is lucky, maybe the girl will agree to this once, or twice, more…and it would be a true, sexual boon, if it were half a dozen times.

The point is, these kinds of sexual “relationships”, are normally very limited [often, because the experience is not equally exciting, and fulfilling, for the girls], and for what little sexual fulfillment the boy is getting out of them, he is still taking the exact same level of risks, by opening himself [and the girl] up to STDs and infections, and maybe even pregnancy.

I come at this from the philosophy, that we should choose our sexual companions with care, and consideration for how likely it is, that both partners will realise maximum sexual mileage. I do not believe, that we should recklessly open ourselves up to risks, over a limited, sexual fling [which is what most boyhood sex amounts to]. I believe, we should keep the number of sexual companions we have, over a lifetime, generally low in number. I see pursuing someone like this, as an investment…intended to pay off, in a long term, sexual relationship…lasting years, and consisting of very much sex.

This model, is generally healthy…and it is practical, to the human nature.

People, including children, should have practical choices available, to freely satisfy their own sexuality [which is vital, to a humans well being, and mental stability], on a regular and frequent basis.

Because of the pitfalls, in boys having sexual flings, with half the girls in school…I think, BoyLovers should be seen, as a viable and promotable alternative, in addressing boyhood sexuality…addressing it in a free will, free association, no pressure kind of way.

…Just including it in sex education, saying “This is out there, and it’s okay”…giving it an aura of dignified respectability.

…and boys should be made aware…

…Yes, you can spend half your time, following those girls around, and begging for sex, for days on end…just to get a quick, “dead fuck”, from a girl who isn’t really into it, and doesn’t really want it…and you can open up yourself to various, unwanted things, for those poorly planned, scantly few minutes of ecstasy…

…Or, you can actually have a long term, sexual companion, who knows a lot about mind blowing, satisfying sex…and who is totally into having sex with you…This can keep you in regular, frequent sex, for years [as opposed to the half dozen or so, times you get it, via traditional methods of chasing young girls]…It can make you grow as a human being, both sexual and otherwise…and it keeps you with one companion, limiting unnecessary exposure, and preventing an unwanted pregnancy [providing the BoyLover is a man].

A BoyLover in a boys life, is an incredibly advantageous, natural resource, for any boy perceptive enough to know, when he has a good thing in front of him…

…This is “the gravy train”, for boyhood sexuality…

…and, hence, it is a very obvious choice, when looking at options, on how to bring STDs, pregnancies, rape, etc, under control, while at the same time raising boys to be sexually gifted and responsible…which brings with it, a host of other, social benefits.

Asked To Cite An Example…


Date: August 26, 2009

…Linked Post…

…Linked Post…

Asked To Cite An Example…

…of open, man/boy love relationships, in countries where they are legal…

Likely, the reason why we don’t tend to hear from/about the people having intergenerational sexual relationships, in places where such are legal, has to do with a few factors.

For one, if it’s legal, nobody is [or few are] making a fuss about it, and the happy couple can go about their private business…then you are not going to tend to see them showing up at places like BoyChat. Well, maybe on a fluke…but, if they are “just another couple”, in the context of their own environment…then what motive do they have, in hanging out where very clearly, the population is made up of persecuted, sexual minorities?

Second, places where this may still be legal, typically wont be “first world” countries, there may be a language barrier…and, internet access wont be in every household (or community)…In fact, it may be very rare. They are not going to visit BoyChat either.

In my mind, it is a question of “What is the motive to speak out, where there is no conflict?”

I don’t know that I would be talking so much about even being a BoyLover, if it weren’t for my outrage, at how badly maltreated we are, over our “socially inconvenient” sexuality. If “this” orientation had been as legal as vanilla heterosexuality…I may have never even bothered at all, to join into the intellectual discussion of it…nor hung around for so long.

Thirdly, censorship is rampant…

Most people were shocked to find out, that Japan had no laws against child pornography [and it was sold openly, in their stores], until more recent years…when they collapsed under political pressure.

We don’t get fair, accurate representations, of loving, man/boy sexual relations happening within our own borders, let alone on foreign soil…The party line says, “these things never happen, anywhere”.

When people do come out [typically, years after the fact], and describe it as beautiful…they’re scoffed at, told they are sick, shouted down…their voice is stripped from them, and they are dismissed as “mentally ill” [and I have seen instances of just this very thing].

They always want to tell those people, that their cognition is never “the right” cognition…because it does not conform, to someone else’s ideas about how life is “supposed to be” lived.

These kinds of relationships are so vastly hidden, because of necessity and self preservation, for the participants.

I cant tell you, of an explicit, sexual, man/boy relationship where the laws allow it. Even if I were to know of such, to tell would be foolish.

It would open myself, and others, up to legal scrutiny…perhaps and invasive investigation…that is not acceptable.

However, I don’t see where the legality of such a relationship, is any indicator of the genuine validity of it…or any fitting account, towards it’s true nature.

Why is it important, in a world which harbors so much hostility towards sexual minorities…for us to uncover such a relationship, which fits all these requirements?

It is no more valid, than an illegal relationship of the exact same nature…and, if they are happening in different cultures, far removed from “us”…are we honestly expected to even know about them?…[and keep in mind, you are polling a fairly small group of people, here].

I cannot provide you with this information…Not only would it be foolish, but I am not a globe trotter, and hence…I’ve not stumbled across such a thing, in a far away land.

But, why are our “home grown”, illegal brands of man/boy love excluded?

It may be impossible to judge most of them, based upon what the media tells us…Yet, we still do have cases surface, like that of Ricky Chavez and Alex King, every here and there.

Clearly, there was a genuine romance going on there, between a very grown man, and a [probably at the time] prepubertal boy…

Alex, the young boy, was very clearly loving the relationship, was very into it and wanted it.

Of course, the “social inconvenience” perceived by narrow minds, dismisses this all to “cognitive distortion”…

…but, the relationship was real, to the people immediately involved.

Yes, I know…the Chavez/King case carries a lot of baggage with it, given the boys father got murdered.

However impossible that may be, to look past…does it honestly destroy the purity, of the man/boy love relationship, itself?

I would suggest, no.

We could debate, whether or not Chavez was a particularly “good” BoyLover…He clearly had his faults [like anyone else]…but, I don’t believe that invalidates the base relationship.

If you told me, that Ricky gently, yet with passion, made love to Alex’s naked body, the two were sweethearts in a loving relationship, and they were each others genuine, sexual lover by mutual choice…I would believe it.

There is enough evidence there, to support such a belief.

Now, of course…all this writing of mine did not answer your question…and, if “that” were my goal, then I would not have even bothered to post.

…but, your question evoked a number of thoughts in me, and I wanted to express them. It seemed fitting, to post them here.

Our Fallen…


Date: May 29, 2009

…BC Response…

…BC Response…

A) BoyChat is what “you” make of it…

B) You’re making a spectacle out of it…

C) Nobody with a little bit of incite and familiarity, is even remotely surprised that “Whatever Bitch” is you…In fact, it was painfully obvious, in my opinion.

D) If you want to successfully conceal your identity, it would be of great benefit, to avoid returning to the exact same theme, which you are quite famous for, every time you return to BC…

E) Yes, there are some “bad” people who read and post at BC…Some people are selfish and destructive, and others are just really, really lousy at making intelligent decisions, and at personal security…Some just get caught up in a moment of weakness.

F) Most of us, who are not salivating for “fresh meat” to pounce upon, have a reasonable understanding, that much of the “ill” (literal, or just condemned) behavior of people in our minority, is symptomatic of a larger social problem and conflict.

It’s not that we can look at everyone here and say, “They’re just that way”. We need to take into account, the world of shit which most of us are forced to exist in, how we are so isolated to ourselves, and further cut off from our own, natural needs, and hence, a place of well being.

Under extreme conditions, such as the ones we exist under today…extreme outbursts of action, will follow. It is natural, that when an animal, such as we are, is deprived of things so fundamental, and on such an absolute level…”things” break down…mentality, stability, sometimes even ethics.

There is a reason why, so many of us remain quiet, when another falls…even if they did do something heinous…or, at least questionable…and, no…it is not all about “saving face”, “naive delusions”, or “protecting identities”, etc…

We understand, that sexuality, and the freedom to be who/what we are, is a fundamental need, and characteristic which adorns that list defining us all. Those who have had these crucial things taken away from them, are debased as a human being, in life…and there is just nothing that you can honestly replace that with.

I understand why, we make dumb decisions…I understand why we fall…I understand where that moment of “Fuck it all!” desperation exists at…(every honest person in our minority does).

It overwhelmingly has to do, with the deck being stacked, us being treated horrendously to the point of psychological breakdown…and our inability to morph and adapt, to the world of traps around us…

…because, to do so, means to cease being who and what we are.

This is why, your one dimensional dismissal of former BoyChatters who have fallen, is so distasteful.

Some of them earned it…Many did not…and “I” will not ride around on a high horse, wagging my finger at people, who I know were truthfully just reacting to a hostile and menacing world which allowed them no outlet.

Humility and empathy, are key here.

I could recall at least a short list, of the really horrendous stuff I am aware of, brought to the world by a few former BoyChat posters…everything from murder, to raping little children.

It’s important to keep in mind, however, that when we are driven so far underground, and we cannot even police ourselves…these kinds of extreme cases will come along, periodically.

It is not as though, we have all managed to live our lives unscathed…Many carey mental injuries, from a life of perpetual threat, neglect and rather sinister psychological manipulation. Some go mentally ill, from all of it.

I cannot just drop the axe on everybody, because this is not a simple situation…and simple answers do not fit.

Ultimately, I am forced to look out at the world and say, “You treat us like fucking shit, dictate what we supposedly do, and disallow us to be what we naturally are…and you are somehow shocked, when we explode, go insane and fulfill your demands of us?”…

12 and 14 Year Old Schoolboys…So “Distraught”…


Date: March 2, 2009

…12 and 14 Year Old Schoolboys…So “Distraught”…

…12 and 14 Year Old Schoolboys…So “Distraught”…

…that both of them had regular sex with a 37 year old housewife…

…and they went back for more, and more…

…and more…

…and more…

…and more…

My goodness!

One of these extremely horny “victims”, even got her to agree to let him film it on his cell phone!!!

“Emily Smith, 37, bedded one of the lads almost daily and allowed him to film an intimate act on his mobile phone.”

Such a “beast” that woman, “obviously” is…

…Uh huh…

…right…

The True Sign of Zealotry…


Date: January 14, 2009

…The true sign of zealotry…

…The true sign of zealotry…

…when a propagandist hack finally gets what he wants, and has worked so hard for…just to turn around and throw a fit, over the end findings to all his hard work…

Richard Blumenthal, the Connecticut attorney general, who has forcefully pursued the issue and helped to create the task force, said he disagreed with the report. Mr. Blumenthal said it “downplayed the predator threat,” relied on outdated research and failed to provide a specific plan for improving the safety of social networking.

“Children are solicited every day online,” Mr. Blumenthal said. “Some fall prey, and the results are tragic. That harsh reality defies the statistical academic research underlying the report.”

I wrote a couple lengthy essays for my, “In Self Defense” project…It’s a short series called, “Puzzles of the Mind”, where in I discuss the incredulous nature of a war on pedophilia, in which there are no clear objectives which can provably be attained…and there is no news, which is good enough to make these zealots ever think, “mission accomplished”…

We see this, time and time again…

…Wherever “good news” [literal good news, or just statistics which should make them happy] comes to light…these zealots are never pleased…No, that is not cause for celebration.

Instead, they are offended and angered, by anything which hints that children are not in immediate danger…that the situation “is not” grim…They get pissed that their own unsubstantiated assertions are disputed…or “worse”, dis-proven…

Many of the people at the very core of pedophobic hysterics, do not give a flying fuck about the reality of childhood safety…

…they are only in the business of selling a story to the public, and then being right there, as a convenient “hero” of their own fabricated story…