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Combating Emotion Laden Idiosyncrasies By Acknowledging Truth Everywhere…[aka: “Does the fact that I have forgone all sexual contact, truthfully make any difference for the better?”]

When Women Rape Men…

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Date: December 03, 2015

01) When Women Rape Men


02) Molly Shattuck sentenced in child sex abuse case

“Former Baltimore Ravens cheerleader Molly Shattuck was sentenced Friday to 48 weekends in jail after pleading guilty earlier this summer to a child sex abuse charge.

Shattuck, 47, pleaded guilty to fourth-degree rape in June, admitting that she performed a sex act on a 15-year-old boy at a beach house in Delaware last Labor Day.”

03) Against his will: Female-on-male rape

“It’s a tough call; people think men can’t be raped and they don’t understand that in the confusion no still means no,” says Curtis St. John, a representative for MaleSurvivor, a national support group for male sexual victimization.

Further muddying the water is the fact that some men can perform sexually, even including orgasm, and still be raped.

In an article in the Journal of Clinical Forensic Medicine, Roy J. Levin and Willy Van Berlo found that even in men who have not consented to sex, slight stimulation of the genitals or an increase in stress can create erections “even though no speci?c sexual stimulation is present.

As for coping, Marsh at RAINN says it’s never too late to reach out for help. But with the stigma attached, survivors may not feel comfortable talking to their friends and family because the victims themselves haven’t defined their experience as assault.”

04) What Science Says About Arousal During Rape

“Of those who report their rapes, around 4–5% also describe experiencing orgasm. But the true numbers are likely much higher. In a 2004 review paper, a clinician reports, “I (have) met quite a lot of victims (males) who had the full sexual response during sexual abuse…I (have) met several female victims of incest and rape who had lubrication and orgasm.”

“I’ve assisted more young women than I can count with this very issue…There have been very few studies on orgasm during rape, but the research so far shows numbers from 10% to over 50% having this experience. In my experience as a therapist, it has been somewhat less than half of the girls/women I’ve worked with. (For the record, I have worked with very few boys/men who reported this.) In professional discussions, colleagues report similar numbers.”

05) When Men Are Raped

“A new study reveals that men are often the victims of sexual assault, and women are often the perpetrators.”

The experience of men and women is “a lot closer than any of us would expect,” she says. For some kinds of victimization, men and women have roughly equal experiences. Stemple concluded that we need to “completely rethink our assumptions about sexual victimization,”

“We might assume that if a man has an erection he must want sex. But imagine if the same were said about women.”


I’ve spent most of my life in self examination…over a number of sexual issues…sexual topics…

…all while experiencing a world around me, which was continually encroaching on my own life and existence…habitually redefining, an ever shrinking place for me to exist in this world…imposing terms like “rape” and “assault” and “molestation”, even onto what I have only known as kindness, tenderness and loving…constantly assaulting me with the mental conditioning, that “there was something wrong with me”…that “I would rape”…that I was somehow violent…that I was an abnormal, alien monster.

My psychological and emotional stability…is something I have been forced to fiercely guard and defend, ever since I was quite young…in order to keep them intact, and remain a functional human being.

…So, I admit right here…that I have the capacity to be downright visceral, where it comes to expansion of the term “rape” [or “sexual violence”, or any number of terminologies which imply violence and lack of respect or empathy]…or every bit as bad, the aggressive imposition of the term “rape” [etc.], onto circumstances which are only guilty of being socially uncommon [or believed to be such].

Today…the term “rape”, is used as an extreme method to impose intolerance…It’s even used to injure and torment people…It is used, to dehumanize people…And it’s employed in wrong, cruel ways.

That is the ugly truth…That is the reality, of the world I have been forced to grow up and exist in.

…Do you know what is so ironic?…The term “rape” does not even begin to embody, what this endless psychological assault [I would feel justified, in calling it torture] puts an individual through…And I’ve seen this in other people, also…where things ended very badly.

When I say pedosexuals [Minor Attracted] are the worst rape victims out of them all…it is not a trivialization of rape…It is acknowledging that most of the suffering from rape, is psychological in nature…and that while many rape victims have a lot of resources and groups to turn to…pedosexuals only have the habitual, cold cruelties of society in their face, working to compound problems, infinitely.

That is rapeThat is a form of psychological rape, of the worst formAnd it is relentlessly perpetuated upon people [including the young, and even children], who’ve never done anything sexually, for which they should feel ashamed…some never even having had sexual experiences, at all.

I understand that males can, and do, get raped in the sexual sense…I even acknowledge, that a woman can rape a man [or male, of various age]…

…I am just so damn, fucking, visceral sick to death…of people constantly trying to identify everything that is not politically correct, sexually…as allegedly being rape…because they cant wrap their mind, around anything except the current, dominant social narrative.

It is a lieThis practice, is a socially institutionalized lieIt is intolerance and cruelty, at it’s ugliest worst.

It’s like fighting with the Borg…where nobody actually thinks, reasons, sees or empathizes…they just parrot slogans…and weak “cultural wisdom”…and work to ensure, that all opposing views and experiences are silenced.

…I cannot even begin to impart upon you…just how viscerally sick of this social behavior, that I am.

…If it were a living thing, which I could rid the entire world of by killing it…I’d strangle it to death, with my bare hands…and free us all, of it’s vast curse.

…But, it’s not that simple…is it?

…And I am but one ant, trying to move a mountain…or a desert, may be more fitting.

You have no idea…how much sincere empathy I do have…for victims of true sexual violence…But I’d rather cut off my own right arm, than ever relax my laurels…on the necessity of tirelessly, unapologetically fighting this social “rape” psychosis…which has really, really badly fucked over so many countless numbers of people.

“Who is the monster?”…

…The question honestly is answered, based out of perspective…And for me, this Borg has always been the biggest monster of them all…hands down…it’ not even close.

I’m writing all of this…because I wish to explain [as if I’ve never done so, before], why I come from the direction I do…and why my words are commonly not centered around sexual violence…

…That sort of thing is already shoved in our faces, and down our throats, around every corner, down every path, and at every destination…even to the point, of utter dishonesty.

I don’t support that style of social engineering…And having been amongst the factual victims of it…it makes me physically ill to even contemplate bolstering the behaviors, which our self elected enemies have chosen to use against us.

This is why I refuse to discuss circumstances, in terms of liberally defined “rape” [unless doing so sarcastically, to push home a point…where the blunt mockery, should be obvious].

When we go down that road…eventually, we reach a point where we are not even talking about rape, anymore…Instead, we’re talking about things, which are guilty of little more than social inconvenience [in the minds of some], and calling it “rape” [or the like]. That’s not only wrong…it’s dangerous. It has a real impact, on real people’s lives. It forces people into a confined space, where relentless stressors are far more likely to result into some form of bad, wider reaching outcome…Because this is what they have been pushed and tormented into.

One change I desperately am starving to see in this world [out of a list of various others]…is the birth of an unflinching, total honesty about the broad spectrum of human sexuality…an understanding that “different” does not mean “dangerous”…and a sense of genuine empathy, for the countless who fall outside of “the majority”. I want to see an end, to the cruel and blind [frankly, stupid] demonization and ostracizing of these people.

We “perverts” are some of the best, most decent, honest and beautiful people on this planet…The problem is not with us…If you don’t see that, then the true problem emanates from within you.

Moving On:

Now that I’ve written you a lecture [I wasn’t really intending to write] to set the stage…I want to just say a thing or two, in response to what is offered above.

Rape can be very complicated…and I acknowledge this. Like I acknowledged above…I accept it as a point of fact, that males can be raped…and that it is possible, to be raped by a female.

Where I start to have problems with current social trends, and all the projected “statistics”…is in the blatant fact, that it’s a forced movement pushed by fanaticism…which isn’t just encouraging, but pushing people to re-evaluate their sexual experiences, and re-categorize them as some form of sexual violence. It is incentivizing people to re-imagine themselves, as victims of a fake sexual assault.

…They’re taking human sexuality, itself…and trying to make as many people as possible, believe that they are a victim of it…no matter how warped, their ideology gets.

…And let me tell you…often times, it gets extremely warped and detached from reality…This is something, which the sex abuse industry has never owned up to. It fights viciously, to hide the house of cards in which it exists. Likely…most people who have a balanced understanding on these issues, realize that the sex abuse industry would collapse if it did not have social panic and fear on it’s side…and it would surely lose all credibility, if exposed for it’s dirty under-tactics…as well as for how incompetent it is.

If this social institution, movement…whatever you want to call it…if it acted in good faith, to push these bad behaviors and malcontents out of it’s ranks…I would have a much different view of it…But fact is…it thrives on those elements, at the extreme detriment of countless. Experience has taught me, that this is exactly what they are intentionally pushing…and they have no interest in getting rid of it. It is who they are…Which is what’s so unnerving about it all. No matter how hateful, inhumane or insane…that movement wants this.

Next…I’d just like to thank TJ, for his video…Because he does bring up something, which all to often gets lost…and which some people have no appreciation towards.

For years…I’ve thought that this “victim” mentality being pushed just about everywhere, has mostly served to infantilize a generation of our society…and this has led me to the fear, that so many of the people claiming “rape” these days…are really just duped by society, or they’re after money…or revenge…It’s more a matter of nobody taking responsibility, for their own regretted decisions, in a culture which tells them they are entitled to blame someone [anyone] else.

What is so tragic…is that this is no longer an unjustified fear, on my part…It’s exactly how the world has shown me, that it is.

The word “rape” doesn’t even mean anything tangible in a social context…Not anymore…Which is why I so often feel obliged to add in specifications, wherever I am discussing sexuality versus [or] sexual violence.

…I’m trying to speak sense and honesty, in a world of madness and turbulence.

This is all the more complicated a line to walk, since I took up writing for an audience I know is not made up solely of Minor Attracted People [MAPs]…or MAPs who fully embrace their sexuality.

But, anyway…I do appreciate what TJ is trying to say…and it’s important.

…I just see something deeper going on in society, which is manifesting into these kinds of conflicts, and even mockery…the likes of which some of the cited comments display.

Last…The quote regarding “victims themselves haven’t defined their experience as assault”, really deserves some stiff critique.

It’s these groups and people, who think they have the right to monopolize the experiences of others, in order to advance their own social agenda, who really get my ire up.

…People like the one quoted above, commonly believe they have the right to prejudge your personal experience as “violation”, and prejudge you as some form of “victim”…as if it were a foregone conclusion.

Because you see…”we” don’t have a right to our own cognition, nor our own senses, nor our own logic, nor our own feelings, nor our own standing as free and equal human beings…wherever these things conflict with the narrow views of fanatics.

You will be a “victim”…even if they have to reduce you down into the status, themselves.

…Disgusting…Really just disgusting, abhorrent behavior of control freaks.


I know I wanted to respond to a few other things…There is a lot linked, which warrants response…But, I’m tired of writing…So, I will end this here. I hope to come back to it, later.

– Steve

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Chris Denning: Now This is Someone Who Owns His Actions, with Great Conviction…

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Date: February 12, 2015

…Chris Denning interview: ‘What should I do? Live my whole life on my own? I wasn’t prepared to do that’…

…Chris Denning interview: ‘What should I do? Live my whole life on my own? I wasn’t prepared to do that’…

“When Operation Yewtree began investigating historical child sexual abuse allegations, it was inevitable that Chris Denning would appear on Scotland Yard’s radar. The former BBC Radio 1 DJ had already been convicted for paedophilia offences back in 1974, and has served prison sentences in the UK, as well as the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

What made Denning stand out most among other suspects was his lack of regret or admission of shame. Today, the 73-year-old was sentenced to 13 years in prison after confessing to 41 more charges including indecent assault, committed in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s – one allegedly in a house belonging to Jimmy Savile.

Today The Independent publishes a disturbing interview he gave to James Pitkin of The Prague Post in 2001, after being released from Pankrac jail in the Czech capital. Recalling his days working as a “rent boy” aged 13, Denning claims his victims enjoyed their experiences, arguing he should not be made to feel guilty.

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The interview

Chris Denning sees a red phone. Everyone else insists it is blue. Police. Judges. Psychologists. The whole of society around him. But no matter what anyone else says, Denning still sees a red phone.

“If everyone else in the world is wrong and thinks that phone is blue, and I know for a fact it’s red, I might be the only person who knows that, but I’m still right,” he says. “Why should I change?”

Why? Because at 60, Denning’s view of the world has landed him in jail three times. He was first convicted of having sexual relations with minors in 1974, though he wasn’t sentenced to jail for that offence.

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Last year, after he’d lingered two-and-a-half years at Pankrac, a backlogged Prague court convicted him of sexually abusing seven boys younger than 15 – the legal age of consent in the Czech Republic. The youngest were 13. In all, he spent four years in jail, where he suffered a heart attack and a minor stroke.

He was finally freed on 27 November and expelled from the country. Before leaving, he defended his lifestyle in a lengthy interview with The Prague Post.

Chris Denning is not an apologist. On the contrary, he is eager to explain his taste for young men, without whom he says he grows terribly unhappy.

It’s an inclination he insists he never chose. “It’s just what happened,” he says. “And what am I supposed to do? Live my whole life on my own? I wasn’t prepared to do that.”

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From his own experience on the streets, Denning insists the public has a naive view of male prostitution. Of his own days as a prostitute, Denning says that, like most boys, he did it for the thrills, the sex and most of all for the feeling of acceptance from an older man. The money, he says, was always secondary.

Above all, he insists that for men, prostitution is a choice. “The press always talks about being forced into it, as if they were reluctant,” he says. “They do it because they enjoy it.”

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For Denning, sex does no harm as long as it is consensual. “If anyone could prove that this hurts anyone, I would never do it again and I never would have done it in the first place,” he says. “They base their prejudice on pseudo-science and preposterous notions.””

[Forgive that what follows doesn’t have a deep breakdown on Chris Denning…I was just expressing some things, which have been on my mind.]

I strongly recommend this read, and thank @metalhead104 for bringing this to my attention [I’m pretty sure someone also posted about this on BoyChat]…

In such a short time span, we see Gary Glitter and his rather sad behavior…along with Chris Denning, in what appears the flip side of this coin.

Chris Denning is someone who tells it like it is, no matter who dislikes hearing it…And this is both refreshing and inspirational…It helps my faith in humanity.

As a rule…it is those who make the nay-sayers and dominationists squawk and hiss the loudest, who deserve our attention the most…They bring something with them…a truth you will never get from “the common folk”. They are sources of rare wisdom…and an often missing piece of the puzzle, when we are trying to figure out matters of life.

To be sure…I feel horrible for both Gary and Chris…for what they have been put through, and for the inhumane abuse they continue to suffer…Nothing has led me to the belief, that either man specifically deserves this fate…

…With regards to Gary…I’m just really frustrated with people “living the life”, but never owning their own actions and choices…never defending them…and the whole social nightmare which has risen, because we have not created any pushback of substance.

It is really just an unspeakable state of vulgar inhumanity…that anyone seeking to freely share love with a willing partner, gets answered with prison sentences, being called “a rapist”, being financially ruined…having their lives destroyed.

…People wonder how I can express some of the things that I do…And let me tell you…When you’ve been around as long as I have…seen as many things as I have…experienced as many things as I have…learned as many things as I have…you cannot stand from a place of knowledge and empathy [you cant care about other human beings], without being sickened and horrified, at the atrocities being committed against lovers today…Against people who’s crime, is simply to love another.

…When something as beautiful as love is made a crime…when it is shamed and turned ugly…every fiber in my being screams, “There is something vile and wrong, with this culture!”…That culture has lost it’s direction…It has lost sight, of what life is all about…and what is worth living for…It has lost all sight on how to enrich life, falling instead for the degradation of life…and sowing the seeds of wrath.

I cannot not say anything…because I cannot stand living in a culture like this…a culture which breeds death, anguish, suffering and wrath. It hurts me too much, to allow it to continue…I’ve seen and experienced too much of this…I have lost too much to this…and I am one out of countless.

If you can look at what has happened to people like Chris Denning, and sincerely believe that they deserve it…then there is something very wrong with you…Something important inside of you is dead.

Humans know better than to do this…Even if they never admit it…deep down, people have got to know on a gut level…that the institutionalized perpetual abuse of lovers, is indefensibly wrong.

…You cannot support this type of social practice, and call yourself a decent human being.

…No decent human being would ever tolerate this.

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Gary Glitter: His “Finding Jesus” Moment?…

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Date: February 8, 2015

…gary glitter – desperate or hypocrite?…

…gary glitter – desperate or hypocrite?…

…Gary Glitter claims his own daughter was fathered by his best friend and blames his child porn addiction on money worries and being abused as a boy…

…Gary Glitter claims his own daughter was fathered by his best friend and blames his child porn addiction on money worries and being abused as a boy…

“…Choking back tears, he told Southwark Crown Court: ‘I don’t know why. I suppose I just got caught up in some sort of curiosity.

‘Because I was probably out of it, I wasn’t empathising with the victims and it’s just the most awful place to be in.

‘It’s got to stop, all this internet pornography of children. It’s got to stop now,’ he said.

‘I was abused as a child and maybe I was trying to work my own feelings out.

‘Today, I have no interest in looking at this awful porn now. It’s disgusting. It’s destroyed my life, it’s destroyed my family’s lives and it’s most likely destroyed all the children’s lives. I’m have nothing but total empathy for those poor children…”

Is anyone at all shocked by this?…

You know what I think?…

…I think, Gary Glitter is a Child Lover at his base…one who never learned to know himself, or how to read the world around him…

For as many years as Gary has been in the news…not a single thing I have ever seen or read about him, has led me to the conclusion that Gary recognized a more severe need of the many.

Did he ever take any principled stand on issues which affect Child Lovers, before having his feet held to the fire by those meaning him ill, and while he was in their grasp?

…If he did, I would be seriously shocked to find out about it…

Gary went off…I believe it was to the Philippines…to continue sowing his own wild oats, even as he was rather aged…where he was tried, convicted and sent to prison, for the charges of having sex with underage females…and then extradited back to Britain, where he now faces various charges all over again.

His most significant “contribution” to any Child Love [Teen Love] movement, was that of being a hapless lightning rod…exposing just how rabid and obsessed the British press gets.

…But his only discernable loyalties during all of this…were those to his own penis, and his own self preservation…

…Gary Glitter was never anything of substance, to the Child Love and Teen Love movement…He was no pillar in the community…He did nothing to better the plight of CL’s and TL’s…or the children and teens that they love…

In fact…he did not even appear to do anything at all, for the general liberation of loving relationships.

…He just ran off, in pursuit of whatever teased his penis…

I suppose…there is some argument to be made…that people like Gary seize their opportunities…and they at least got to live a little, in their lifetime…And maybe they realized it might eventually catch up with them, but they decided at some point that it was worth it…the trade off.

…But now we have the same old story…playing itself out again…

…A caught CL/TL…alone in the clutches of a system, waiting to grind him to bits…No group or resources to defend himself…totally at the mercy of the system…And of course, he is going to be nothing more than a tool of the state from this point on. His potential for good, is decimated…He is muted, and unable to stand or fight for anything…except what the state tells him to stand and fight for.

…It felt soooo good, when you were emerged in it, didn’t it Gary?…Yes it did…Don’t lie…

…And you likely rationalized, that in your later years…it would be all down hill, so what does it matter?….

…It’s funny how so long as you retain your cognitive stability, life never really does stop holding a personal significance…nor a drive to keep going…to keep living. Your circumstances continue to matter…You continue to want to see a better day.

I just wish people like you, Gary…would have seen the bigger picture…and would have substantively fought the injustices CL’s, TL’s, Children and Teens face in this world…

Instead…your potential fizzled out, as some spectacle selling tabloid magazine rag sheets…

…And now you are just a puppet…crying in your own puddle of tears…begging the system to leave you alone for whatever years remain of your life…Saying whatever you think they want to hear…Betraying the literal choices of your life, which you lived by and…saw value in…and clearly went to uncommon lengths, in order to experience repeatedly. Your actions tell us, that you believed in this way of life…even if you never publically defended it…

…Now, you turn on it all…because it is what fits your self preservation…

You should have spent your life fighting for the day, that no good person ever finds themselves in the position you face today.

…I’ve become very tired…of those of us who run off to “have all the goodies” for themselves…just to turn around and refuse fighting for their right, to have what they had…refuse taking any principled stance, except to adopt the condemnation against what they did…They are all apologies and begging for forgiveness, when any time comes to actually make a stand for how they lived…or for the freedom of love.

If Gary Glitter were a principled, honest man of integrity…he would be accepting that he is old, not likely to live a great number of more years…and accepting that for all he experienced and received in his own life [which so many of us never will], his standing up in defense of liberating human love is a calculated price…and a calculated move…

…It is unfortunate that Gary Glitter, who’s life is already essentially over [though given his appearance at his court date, he doesn’t look to be suffering or in want of anything], cant even be moved to “take a hit for the team”, and actually do something of substance to fight against this form of injustice.

…And he is someone who had resources, personal fame…influence…

You want to know why so many of us continue to get screwed over by the system?…

…It is because so few of us are loyal to each other…So few of us care about each other enough, to fight on behalf of one another…or on behalf of our groups, as social demographics.

…There are too damn many Gary Glitters out there amongst us…who no matter what advantages life throws at them, they only think about their own pursuit of orgasms…and their own self preservation.

This self centered, “To hell with everyone else” attitude, has got to end.

Sad thing about Gary Glitter…I have to admit, I’ve never been moved to expect anything different out of him, other than what we are witnessing today.

Gary is a lost opportunity…a senseless black eye, to the rest of us…Someone who never understood the larger picture.

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Human Rights Watch Report: Sex Offender Laws and Child Offenders…

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Date: April 1, 2014

This is actually an excerpt from section seven, of a report on the effects of sex offender laws, authored and published by the Human Rights Watch organization in 2007.

…No Easy Answers: Sex Offender Laws in the US…

…No Easy Answers: Sex Offender Laws in the US…

The entire thing really deserves a full read…but I just wanted to highlight a portion, and share it…maybe give a brief comment.

It gives statistics from the U.S. Department of Health and Welfare…and please keep that point in mind…we are looking at the U.S. governments own numbers, from it’s own research, and the U.S. government is incredibly hostile towards many forms of human sexuality, including pedophilia…In other words…contrary to what some may suggest, I do not cherry pick my quotes from soft or generally questionable sources…Much of what I have learned over the years, has ultimately come from the very same government which hounds and assaults people like me.

…Wrap your mind around that, for a moment…

…Yeah…it is royally messed up, that they’ve known all this time [all along?]…their ruthless war is against entirely normal, entirely natural, entirely harmless behavior…and even against very beneficial behavior…

…They’re waging an inhumane war against humans, for the “crime” of having been a human amidst going about living a natural life…

…[I feel like flipping the middle finger at the U.S. government, right now]…

Anyway…On too the interesting content…

…Consensual Teenage Sex…

…Consensual Teenage Sex…

“Some of the sexual behaviors by youth that lead to a sex offense conviction and the application of sex offender laws do not involve the sort of acts or intent normally associated with criminal offenses. Most child behavior experts agree that sexual experimentation is a normal part of a young person’s development. Some of the youthful offenders who are currently required to register as sex offenders were exploring their sexuality, or engaging in other typical adolescent behavior such as genital play or consensual sexual intercourse.

According to a survey conducted by the US Department of Health and Welfare, by age 14, more than one-third of the survey’s respondents reported genital play with another youth under the age of 18, and about one-fifth had started having sexual intercourse. By age 16, over 40 percent of both sexes report intercourse, and that rises to 55 percent for both boys and girls at age 17. Child development experts agree that consensual sex play among children, including intercourse between teenagers, “is not psychologically harmful under ordinary circumstances and is probably a valuable psychosocial experience in developmental terms.”

More than one third reported having sexual experiences, by the age of fourteen…If this is indicative of a social trend [or common human behavior], then a heck of a lot of kids are having some form of sex, even before they hit the age of fourteen.

If child development experts can tell us that childhood and teenage peer sex, “is not psychologically harmful under ordinary circumstances and is probably a valuable psychosocial experience in developmental terms.”…what else can we take away from this?…

…That the arousal, stimulation and touching of a child’s [or teenagers] genitals, is not abnormal?…That it is normal?…That it is healthy development?…That it is a good thing, for their sexual development?…

The kicker here, is that they specify activity between age mate peers…as being part of “under ordinary circumstances”…But isn’t that just a social construct?…I mean…exactly what, in nature, stops a child and someone significantly older, from having an ordinary circumstance of a sexual relationship, or encounter?

Clearly…it has not been out of the question, nor unthinkable, throughout the history of mankind…and it still happens today, in some places…

What if…western cultures finally grew up, finally put their sexual superstitions aside…and finally allowed normal, healthy, intergenerational relationships to exist as part of ordinary social circumstances?…

…Should we expect trauma and injury, if it is no longer breaking a deep social taboo?…

…After all…a lot of stuff that goes on in other cultures would not be tolerated in western culture…Yet the people actually doing the activities, get along just fine while embracing them…

…And, after all…presumably these children and teenagers, will mostly spend the bulk of their sexual lives, having sex with adults…It has always seemed mightily bizarre to me, that the “experts” try to keep the young away from what they ultimately intend them to have sex with [physically developed adults]…but often find no problem with it, when they get touchy and feely with what the “experts” ultimately want them having nothing to do with [a child’s body]…

That is some extreme mixed up messaging…How do you expect them to not be attracted, to what they have such enjoyable memories of [a child’s body]…while at the same time being solely attracted to what they have been conditioned to shun [the adult body]?…

There is simply no natural line, here…despite that they try to enforce one…and this pursuit is a complete mess.

Now yes…I know, I know…it is not that simplistic…and humans will still have very enjoyable sex, even if they aren’t with their fantasy partner…Many are just overjoyed to be having sex, at all…Fair enough…

…But when you really examine this type of social conditioning…it honestly makes no logical or practical sense.

I have to ask…Is this honestly a good social practice…Aren’t we, as a society, just messing with things that we ultimately have little control over, in the larger picture?…

1000 years from now…all this socially sanctioned interference and manipulation into a person’s private life…it will all be for naught…Everyone who suffered it’s ill consequences will be long dead, robbed of the ability to live while they were still alive…Whomever else theoretically benefited, will also be long dead…and knowledge of what good it allegedly did for them, long forgotten…

…I just hope, if humans have not gone extinct by that time…that the cultures which exist will be far more humane, tolerant and intelligent…than the one I live in, today.

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A Modern Day Example of Entirely Un-traumatized Boys…


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Date: February 28, 2014

Warning: There is explicit, live documentation, of young boys putting their mouths in/on the vaginas of cows, and later having their heads peed on, by those same cows.

This Item Is Now Gone…Censorship…How Predictable…

01) Dinka TribeTakes Cow Urine Showers To Turn Hair Orange & Lactate Cows

This is done to make the cows lactate, producing more milk…

…Still, they are using their mouths to sexually stimulate cows…and they are getting peed on, as well…

This type of work is a status symbol, apparently…

It just helps to show, that an awful lot of human behavior [and human reaction] falls outside of the narrow, restrictive and forbidding viewpoint that remains dominant.

I don’t know if it happens amongst the Dinka people…but in some areas of the world, sex between boys and animals [often mules or donkeys] is outright institutionalized…and widespread…It’s what they commonly do between the time they enter puberty, and the time they get married…I’ll have to find the video link I have on that report…

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Arizona’s Senate Bill 1062: Defense of Religious Faith Rights?…


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Date: February 27, 2014

01) AZ: Protecting Faith-Based Bigotry via Laws of the State!

02) Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

” Arizona’s Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would allow business owners, as long as they assert their religious beliefs, to deny service to gay and lesbian customers.

The bill, which the state House of Representatives passed by a 33-27 vote Thursday, now goes to Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican and onetime small business owner who vetoed similar legislation last year but has expressed the right of business owners to deny service.”

03) Arizona governor vetoes religious freedom bill

Such an embarrassing mark of shame for Arizona…

You know…if a religious business person does not wish to serve members of any minority, then they should not expect to set up shop in economies with said minorities as members…

Granted, this may severely limit such a religious business person’s options, and they might be forced to serve only chosen, target markets [ie: private clubs servicing specific communities]…they may not even be able to have a public representation of their business…But if it honestly means that much to them, then it is possible to serve only people who share your ideological views and customs…

…Thing is…plopping your business right out there, prominently on main street, the internet or wherever…and enthusiastically inviting people to come in and make a purchase…just to turn around, and decide you may not like whatever wanders through your door…

…That is just wrong…

You have set up a business, and intend to make a personally profitable gain [presumably a career], off of their community…And yes, some fraction of the people who make up this community are pedophiles, gays, hebephiles, lesbians, ephebophiles, transgendered, gerontophiles, bisexual…and yes, even “the dreaded” sexually aware children and youth…

Does anybody presume a right to do business in their community, while discriminating against them for shallow and petty reasons?*

…You are taking up space and property in their community, after all…and if they cannot even have the opportunity to use what you offer…then why should they want you there?…It would seem rational, that they would want a better usage of said space and property…Something that is actually of use to them…Something that is not there, acting like some sort of geological cancer where they are not welcome…Something not standing as some hostile reminder, that people in this world are intolerant of them.

Of course…if they have personally been a problem, you can ban them from your business…That is just common sense…But enshrining these petty, baseless [or poorly based], emotional, ignorant and hysteric bigotries into law, just so some people can avoid being sued for blatantly ridiculous [or malicious] discrimination?…

What on earth, is a law like this even needed for?…Keeping the minorities down, and making them “know their place”?…

What a disgrace…

I don’t usually have much nice to say about Anderson Cooper these days…but I found it interesting, that the Arizona Senator repeatedly sidestepped and dodged the question, when given opportunity to clarify that he understands this bill could be used to needlessly discriminate against sexual minorities…I think that was a good thing to focus on, and it exposed this Senator [who is running for Arizona state governor] as someone who needs to be kicked out of public office.

…People like that have no business writing and passing laws.

Happily…the setting Arizona governor vetoed this bill…

It really makes you wonder about this country, though…when outrageous spectacles like this one happen.

You know, I’ve been saying it for years…there are countless people in this country [USA] who consider it their “god given right”, to treat and behave towards a vast range of us as though we are human trash…And in their own isolated ideology, they have looked upon our standing up for ourselves, as being some sort of threatening affront to “their right” to socially ostracize us, verbally assault us at every opportunity, habitually attack us in numerous ways…and delegate us to some greatly degraded social status…a status which they can further continue to exploit.

…Hell of a thing to consider “a personal right”…isn’t it?…

They want these new, highly unusual laws, in order to maintain this very nasty status quo.

This is what happens, when the people who most rightly aught to be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves [for their own ethical shortcomings, and for their own personal lack of empathy, fairness and social skills] are not…They get their groups and institutions set up, and commence to threatening and oppressing others…They think everything in the community belongs to them, and them alone…even the law books.

* To anybody offended that I may have called “their religion born beliefs” shallow and petty, baseless or poorly based…

…By chance, maybe you genuinely believe that these ideologies and practices are deeply held convictions to yourself…Maybe some are based on the bible or the koran [or what you have been told of them]…

I am not sorry in saying, that you will receive no empathy from me, over these sad and tragic social customs and acts of barbaric ignorance, which should have been done away with centuries ago.

Intolerance, hate, bigotry, ignorance and human ugliness [dressed up in a guise of some “god” or not] which can be found in the bible or koran, is still intolerance, hate, bigotry, ignorance and human ugliness…

…There is nothing magically permissible, which suddenly makes these low brow and horrible things “good”, just because they might appear somewhere within the pages of the bible or koran…or any similar text.

If you want to continue giving life to these sort of sad and tragic human legacies…then understand what you are factually doing, and own it in all of it’s ugliness and shamefulness.…Don’t embrace the human ugliness, pretending that you are not an ugly human for doing such.

Don’t expect the rest of us to sheepishly dance around your beliefs and actions, which give rise to human nastiness and human suffering.

…We are forced to live in this world, too…which means that we are forced to deal with the fallout, of your hostile and nasty actions…actions which can no longer be ignored…Something needs to be done about them, and about the people who are causing social conflict.

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Relevant Article: U.S. Pedosexuals DO Have Free Speech Protection…

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Date: February 14, 2014

01) Criminal or Just Creepy?

I was doing a search for something else, when I came across an interesting and relevant news report from March of 2007…

It is a brief dissection of the Barack Obama, Lindsay Ashford fiasco…

Barack was running for U.S. president…and Lindsay committed the sin of being a pedosexual doing [very obvious, in my opinion] political satire. He predicted the winner, by how cute their daughters were…and his comments about these daughters, were mild compliments.

To their credit…most of these candidates ignored the whole thing…but not Barack Obama…

His lawyer sent a letter to Lindsay, threatening to sue him if he did not remove the comments, pictures and hyperlinks [to Obama’s website]…

A few very interesting quotes from this article follow…

“Attorneys who specialize in free speech say the campaign’s handling of the issues raises some questions about the candidate’s stance on civil rights.”

I recall this, from when it was happening…It made me think differently, of Barack Obama…I did not vote for him…In fact, I have never voted for Barack Obama.

I really felt…the threatening of a U.S. citizens legal speech, was a step way too far…and it really gave a stark, personal look at Barack…I did not like what I was seeing…Nobody who cares anything for free speech and open expression, should be okay with what happened in this case.

“Individuals can make comments about the candidates and the candidates’ children without running afoul of the law until someone crosses the line into actual or criminal activity,” said Lawrence G. Walters, a lawyer who has handled many cases involving pornography and the Internet. “For better or worse, pedophiles retain their free speech rights. If he’s a professed pedophile and if he says, ‘Let’s try to find these kids,’ then it could be in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy, then he may be liable.”

…Read it and weep, all you small minded bigots out there…

The first amendment experts say so…lawyers are saying so…and I’ve been asserting this for years, myself…

…Us pedosexuals out here [in the United States], who write/talk about social issues and even individual people, are not violating any laws in doing such. It bluntly falls under free speech law…despite that some fringe groups wish it were a crime, for certain minorities to have free speech protection.

A good thing to be aware of, if you are a pedosexual…If you are not conspiring to break any laws…then you are fully within your legal rights, to exercise your voice.

“If Obama knows that his lawyer is doing this, then that’s one reason not to vote for him,” [Jonathan] Katz said. “These are clear free speech issues”

I can only repeat what I wrote above…

…That Obama would attack the legal free speech of a U.S. citizen, is really damning of Obama.

“Several First Amendment lawyers said that it was doubtful that Bauer or the Obama campaign would prevail in court.”

Even the U.S. president [or a high ranking U.S. politician], cannot legally strip a U.S. citizen of their free speech…If this had gone to court, Barack was almost guaranteed to lose…

…Part of me almost wishes this case had seen the inside of a court room…So that we could have seen a pedosexual triumph over a high ranking U.S. politician…That would have been wonderful…Though, I suspect it would have dragged Lindsay through a lot of unpleasant things…So, maybe it’s best that it didn’t happen.

“The big concern I would have is that if in the abstract, you don’t allow free speech for these kinds of people, that’s something to really think about,” Walters said. “When we’re looking at the platform of the campaign, who else doesn’t get free speech rights? You have to think through the implications”

If a pedosexual is denied their free speech…how on earth do you justify not denying free speech to anybody [or everybody] else?

Any line you attempt to draw, is all subjective.

There is no validity, in claiming that people can have free speech, or not have free speech, based upon whether or not you like the ideas they express…

…I mean…Maybe, I don’t like the ideas you express [and some of you out there, express some very disturbing ideas]…Maybe, I don’t like encountering all the hate speech, and at times outright sick comments and threats aimed at pedosexuals…It’s strewn all over the internet, and in all manner of media…What gives me the right, to claim that people expressing these things deserve to have their right to free speech stripped of them?

Probably one of the more interesting things…is that there is a far more direct, obvious and sound argument to be made, that people who express hate speech and violent threats against pedosexuals do not deserve first amendment protection…and that they rightly should be prosecuted for their behavior…Because they actually are committing extreme antisocial behavior, by threatening the lives of others…not to ignore the other types of criminal behavior, these sorts sometimes get themselves caught up in…like stalking…blackmail…assault…vandalism…

…On the other hand…a pedosexual simply out here talking about stuff and trying to engage the world…There is no sane reason under the sun, why such a person’s first amendment rights should be threatened. They have every right to speak.

“In July 2005, his Web site devoted to missing children provoked outrage among parents of the children. Because the site is legal, they couldn’t take action.”

This last quote…

…Again, I recall this fiasco…as well as one or two others…and it was entirely concocted hyperbole…

It is kind of astonishing… when a pedosexual creates a tribute page to victims of any tragedy… or even a page, which helps spread word of a missing child…just to get attacked for having done so…

…Apparently, pedosexuals are not allowed to show concern or sorrow, for children, teens and others who have had a terrible fate.

They wanted to take action against Lindsay…because he did something which was entirely humane and legal…

This seems to be a trend, anymore…when some people get the idea that pedosexuals are “acting too human”…and, allegedly, there is something wrong about that.

I never knew Lindsay on a personal level… but he always seemed like a very kind, sweet individual…It was a true shame, when he ceased to be active.

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“Rape Culture”: What Do You Think?…

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Date: December 14, 2013

…A plea for a paradigm shift away from America’s rape culture…

…A plea for a paradigm shift away from America’s rape culture…

Note: I don’t consider sexually overbearing behavior [ie: unwanted repeat advances] to be appropriate. Such does not fit into my own code of ethics. I interpret what is described in the linked article, as a byproduct of a culture which isolates and ill equips people of various sexual inclinations, to successfully navigate social relationships…but I want to stress that I am very sympathetic to the complicated circumstances described in the linked article…And I do not want to dismiss or devalue the authors own pain and conflict, in any way. Though I don’t necessarily mean this in the exact same way that others might expect…I find it tragic, that her circumstances found no satisfactory resolution. What follows is not even addressing her personal experience [an account which could make for some deep discussion, no doubt]…but it responds to the increased, broad reaching usage of the term “rape culture”.

“Rape Culture” is a terminology which I more frequently keep running into these days.

Maybe, after a lifetime of witnessing the relentless bludgeoning on male sexuality…and on many forms of sexuality thought to be unconventional…maybe I am just completely sick to death, with the “finger wagging” language…with those accusatory labels thrown about all too liberally, with little care for nuance or level headed honesty and fairness…Maybe I am just predisposed to revulsion towards anything so far reaching, as to dictate an entire culture [or behavior in human sexuality] “a facet of rape”…

…Maybe I have been run dry of tolerance, for those words and behaviors which no longer simply allow humans to harmlessly be humans, without working to sully, degrade, injure and shame them in their humanity?…

…but I see the term “rape culture” as being little more than extreme hyperbole…Just another thing to be clubbed over the head with, for being “too perverted” for somebody else’s tastes.

…And it is offensive…

…It is deeply offensive and injurious for many of us to a degree which cannot even be calculated, for our sexuality [and all expressions or hints of it] to be dictated “some form of rape or assault”. It is not merely an invasion of our entire lives and our very sense of mental balance…but it is a violation of them…Those of us relentlessly targeted by these assaults all throughout our lives…we suffer in very real, very deep ways…from not just what it tares out of our lives…but the extremely ruthless things it inflicts upon us…no matter if you run foul of law and customs, or not.

Sexual outcasts suffer every bit as much psychologically, as genuine rape victims…And I wish more people would come to understand this point…I mean…we have gotten much, much better, with regards to the very base variety of gays and lesbians…and being sympathetic to their plight…what they commonly have to endure, growing up from child to adult and beyond…just for supposedly “being born wrong”…

…What society continues to fail at realizing…is that the many other social groups who are also guilty of supposedly “being born wrong”, go through the exact same journey of psychological hell…Only, our social groups don’t have the Dan Savages of this world to tell us all “it gets better”…Quite the contrary…we have endless parades of politicians and anti sex activists, who relentlessly bash us, assault us with hate speech and dehumanizing hate propaganda, passing and lobbying for laws that target an ever increasing range of our mere presence on this planet.

We have virtually nothing, to act as a social support structure…and what little we do have, there are vicious, ignorant people constantly trying to destroy [even if it is clearly of benefit to all]. So many of us [from child to adult] are just isolated…and even more so, when we really need the personal guidance and support…from people who know and understand, exactly what we are going through.

…Instead, the “role models” society and pop culture chooses to force down our throats, are kidnappers, child rapists and child murderers…people extremely violent and abusive towards children…imposing upon our psyche from a very young age…”this is what we are”…”that is what we will do”…

…A complete load of rubbish…for which I harbor an entirely justified anger towards society…The way it has psychologically raped such a vast range and number of humans [including my kind] for merely being sexual beings…it truly is a crime against humanity, which has far reaching impact on all of society itself.

Will we collectively ever wise up and change course, in the face of such a clearly abysmal failure in human and social relations policy?…Can society even see, what is in its own best interest?

You know…what I dread most…is that all of us are just going to remain in our own self centered mindsets…talking about our own limited range of issues…all the while failing to discover the necessity of reaching out to others…of understanding those others…of valuing those others…of welcoming those others into the fold…of taking everybody’s issues seriously…of affording mutual respect as a cultural default…of actually doing something about the suffering of others [even the unconventional] and the wrong done to them, to help alleviate it

I question whether or not we will collectively rise above the hate and phobia…and realize that it is only hurting everybody, when any of us or all of us remain at each others throats…

…Will you ever see me, or anybody at all like me, for the human being that I am?…Or are you just going to throw around intellectually dishonest terms like “rape culture”, and all the other innuendo and hate speech, to conceal the real individuals that we are?

The USA does not have a rape culture…In fact, just the opposite is true…It has a hyperactive, hyper phobic, hypersensitive culture, ravenously eager to call every sexual thing supposedly out of the ordinary, “rape”, “assault”…”a crime”…”indecent”…”immoral”…”a threatening epidemic”…

If the USA ever finds its intellectual scruples…these bits and pieces of hyperbole will be relegated, to the records of our own embarrassing past…where they can be forgotten…

Because honest people do not need them, and find the harmful usage of them to be offensive

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‘Hundreds of Victims’…Again…


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Date: May 16, 2013

01) BoyChat Response

02) Our approach to pedophilia isn’t working – Salon

I was watching a PBS show [Independent Lens] earlier, about female rape victims in the U.S. military…

…The “every predator has an average of 300 victims” got mentioned…causing me to spontaneously outburst and audible, “Oh, bull shit!”…

Of course, the core problem in that show is a complete travesty, and a miscarriage of justice…

…In addition, I would never even think of contesting that it is possible for rare cases to attain 300+ true victims…however improbable it may be.

I see the author of this piece, also subscribes to this fallacy…that “every sex offender has, on average, hundreds of victims”…

The issue of heavy and liberal padding, when qualifying “victims”, aside…

…I am curious, if there are even enough people within the concerned cultural populations…to fill all these 300 positions, for every single one of the sex offenders?…

…Or, just what percentage of said populations, would be presumed to have been assaulted by these many, many sex offenders.

According to This January 23, 2012 article…747,408 registered sex offenders are on the books, in the U.S…

Hmmm…747,408 x 300 = 244,222,400 alleged victims…people being raped, groped…seeing a streaker run by…and whatever…

I just ran across a number [in unrelated readings], which says the U.S. population is a bit over 310 million people…

…244, 222,400 divided by 310 million = about 79%…

Very interesting…

…So, almost 80% of the entire U.S. population has been raped, groped, unexpectedly forced to see somebody else’s “junk”…or got looked at by a horny “pervert”…

I conclude…we are all a bunch of sex abuse victims, in the U.S…”obviously”…

Just think…and they continue to say, that the true numbers remain “massively under-reported”…

…Kind of scary, when you contemplate…maybe 150% of the population or more, have been victims of sexual assault…Could it be 200%?!…More?!

This horribly unscientific number experiment may not really prove a lot…but I think it makes clear, something very important…

…The “hundreds of victims average”, is pure hogwash…unless you are desperate enough, to include even the most trivial of sexually offending behavior.

…I know, I know…Many people are counted as victims of U.S. sex offenders, who don’t live in the U.S…So, it’s not really a sound conclusion…But seriously…of all the registered sex offenders…How many honestly do travel all that far away from home?…or talk hundreds of cute Russian boys, into dancing naked in front of their web cams?…

…I just don’t see it…

I think the agencies and lobbyists, are desperate for victims…victims who factually don’t even exist.

There are far to many registered sex offenders, with small numbers of “verifiable victims”…and when is the last time you heard of anybody getting caught [other than inflated “child porn” cases], where the victim count was 600 to 1000, to make up for all the “slackers”?

The “child porn” kids are an interesting question, also…I would literally expect, most individual children/teens known to be involved, get counted hundreds of times over…if not thousands…I mean, how many individual kids could have seriously been involved, over the years [even including stuff like BIBs]?…In comparison to the world population of children/teens, I highly doubt the percentage is even significant.

Am I wrong, in any of this?…

Note: Actually, as to the article itself…I should say, it is bitter sweet to read articles like this…

On the one hand, the author is showing generally more human decency and intelligence, than the average person…And I do appreciate that…On the other hand, it is still something of a propagandist piece…Which takes a lot of the shine off of it.

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Unwelcome Guests: Beneath ‘Child Protection’ to The Deeper Roots of Hierarchy and Separation…

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Date: March 12, 2013

01) Beneath ‘Child Protection’ to The Deeper Roots of Hierarchy and Separation

02) RSS Feed Link

These are well worth your time to download and listen to…There is some all to rare honesty, in these gems.

Speakers and commentators are Judith Levine, Jackson Katz, Kenneth Dowst and Robert Jensen.

The first file features a particularly interesting [and I would say, very good] speech given by Judith Levine. She discusses a number of the current issues surrounding sex hysteria, and more to the point this cultural industry which has risen up around [fed off of and exploited] it. These exact same things, are what many of us Child Lovers and Teen Lovers have been talking about for years…because it alarms us, every bit as much as it alarms people like Judith.

I want to thank Anacreon for posting this at BoyChat, and newshound for reposting it.

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