It’s Over: YouTube Bans Alex Jones…


Date: August 10, 2018

01) It’s Over: YouTube Bans Alex Jones


“–YouTube completely bans Alex Jones’ Infowars channel after Spotify, Facebook, and iTunes started taking more aggressive action in removing his content

Citation:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/youtube-bans-infowarss-alex-jones-for-spewing-hate-speech/

Thanks, David!

I think you’ve given the best summary, thus far…and I can agree with your suggestion…

…If it’s legal, then just leave it alone. That would be an excellent standard, for YouTube to function by.

A Last Word in Summary: Can We at Least Maintain Our Intellectual Integrity About the InfoWars YouTube Termination?…


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Date: August 10, 2018

There are several things known here…

1) InfoWars has a decades long history, of being an aggressive, bad neighbor…profiting off of the naivety of the far right separatist demographic, and off of the wholesale degradation of various minorities. That they would eventually become a legal liability for YouTube [FaceBook, etc.], is a virtual guarantee, given their pattern of past behavior.

2) Four InfoWars videos were found to be in violation of YouTube’s “hate speech”, harassment, slander, etc., rules [their terms of service]…

3) Despite that the existence of only three such videos in a single account would constitute “three strikes”, and by common procedure would result in an account termination for any typical YouTube user…YouTube acted with grace and leniency, in favor of InfoWars, counting the entire group of videos as “one strike”, placing InfoWars [Alex Jones] on suspension, and temporarily disabling features of his account…

4) Despite the standing suspension, Alex Jones decided to circumvent the terms of his suspension.

5) Alex Jones’ behavior on YouTube, has been directly linked to acts of violence and terrorism, in that they are considered to have incited these acts, for which the individual perpetrators were prosecuted and incarcerated.

6) InfoWars and Alex Jones have had a growing number of lawsuits filed against them, in relations to their/his YouTube activity.

7) Legal experts are saying, that Alex Jones’ behavior is not protected by free speech law.

8) It’s unclear if YouTube is likely to be named as a defendant, in future lawsuits related to InfoWars…lawsuits which could cost them, dearly.

Now…is it fair to say…that had Alex and company been wise…they might have simply laid low, for the thirty day livestreaming [and upload?] ban, after which they could have resumed their broadcast?…and maybe, they could have refined their behavior a bit, in the meantime?…

Is it fair to say…that maybe they should not have actively provoked YouTube, during a period where they had already gotten themselves into trouble with YouTube?…and they knew full and well, it would only make things worse?

Is it fair to question, whether Alex and company actively tried to martyr themselves, with this public stunt?

Alex Jones has a lot of money…It’s not as if he could not afford, this brief lull in broadcasting his show….

So…why did he decide, that he had to be a hard headed douche, in this instance?

YouTube…whatever we want to say about them…it is absolutely predictable, and intellectually sound, what YouTube chose to do, given the set of circumstances in this case.

Had YouTube been integrally consistent…InfoWars would have been terminated and banned, years ago…Let’s be real, about this point.

This is something that was coming to a head, for quite some time…YouTube didn’t appear to really even want to address it…nor deal with it’s fallout…But Alex made it clear, he was going to continue on, by being an even bigger problem…So, YouTube took action.

InfoWars, Alex Jones and company, has not been subjected to anything, that you or I would not be subjected to, had we behaved the same on their service.

A Concession:

When we are talking about YouTube channels with massive followers, and large financial business reliant on their YouTube activity…It might be reasonable, that YouTube is lenient as it was…in a good faith effort, to not abruptly destroy what a YouTuber has spent years building.

The Question, However:

…How could Alex Jones be so foolish, as to swat away this good will?…and do something he knew would be “YouTube suicide”?…What was going through his head?

Ultimately, Responsibility Lies With InfoWars and Alex:

This conclusion was fully predictable, presuming YouTube would ever consistently enforce it’s own terms of service. It is the habitual, historic behavior of InfoWars and Alex, which has led to this end. The people behind InfoWars, only have themselves to blame for this.

…They’ve had years to alter their mode of behavior…but, they’ve only ramped things up, leading to these inevitable conflicts.

YouTube Has Sound Defense, For What It Did:

There is a clear path of behaviors and consequences, in this case.

While many of us hate the heavy handed approach YouTube has sometimes notoriously taken…the decision in this specific set of circumstances, was clearly justified.

…A loose cannon on YouTube, was trying to go rogue…on YouTube’s dime, while gambling with YouTubes legal liability…And YouTube put a stop to it.

In Close:

I Hate Censorship, With A Passion!

…This does not mean, that I fail to recognize cases where people have earned suspensions, or even permanent banning.

A person or group can become a big enough problem, that they warrant total removal from a platform.

Though, apparently, YouTube [FaceBook, etc.] considers Alex Jones to have reached this point…I take no delight, in the fact that InfoWars is banished from several online platforms.

While there is a strong aroma of poetic karma in this case, for sure…I do not see banishment, as being the preferable outcome…

…But I am intellectually honest [and consistent] enough, to understand and acknowledge why this outcome happened…

YouTube has been grossly inconsistent, when it claims to equally enforce it’s terms of service, or afford equal access to it’s services…

YouTube claims to want to keep it’s service safe, for it’s users…and claims to want to clean up the atmosphere on it’s platform…

…To which I say, “Fine!…Wonderful!”…

…And this is why, for many years…I have been calling upon YouTube, to actually enforce it’s terms of service, at least in the most obvious and pressing cases…Show that it is genuine, in what it claims intent…

I recognize what has happened with InfoWars, as being part of that enforcement [and clean up]…

…If that makes me some sort of a villain in all of this…at least in the minds of some…then so be it…

I’ve always been consistent on this stance…community rules [and terms of service] exist for a reason…and not even the massive channels, should be above them.

I see nothing to be ashamed of, in this stance.

Should YouTube be way more lenient, in it’s terms of service?…

…Well…that is a different discussion…

…I’m all ears, where it comes to considering the ways we can make YouTube open, accessible and more permissive.

Not everybody deserves their fate, on YouTube…

…But, let’s be careful not to give “free passes” to everyone…so enthusiastically, that we forget the grounded necessity in community rules [and terms of service]…

…Some people did earn their fate.

My condolences, if this is an uncomfortable reality.

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I Would Honestly Love, A Legitimate “Wild West” YouTube…


Date: August 09, 2018

01) Alex Jones BANNED from YouTube, Ana Responds


“Ana Kasparian explains why Alex Jones’ free speech defense is BS on #NoFilter.”

…And I have no problems, functioning in that kind of an environment…

It would be lovely, if we all had equal standing…and we all could equally speak our minds on YouTube, Facebook, etc…

I have no personal qualms, with InfoWars being on YouTube…

What I am getting a really sickly sensation out of…is this large parade of people living in denial…who seem to believe that “Saint Alex Jones”, is now a sacred cow…and he’s above community standards, above the terms of service…that there, seemingly, is nothing he can do, for which he can be penalized by YouTube, Facebook, or wherever…

…We even have Jimmy Dore soft peddling Alex, as though he were some kind of caricature which mocks right wingers…

Why are all of these apologists coming out of the woodwork…and acting like Alex cannot be penalized, for his behavior on internet platforms?…

…It’s as if they believe he embodies some sort of “god like” status, which makes him different from the rest of us…and hence, not having to behave like the rest of us do.

I don’t understand this…I don’t understand the reasoning behind it…

I’m not celebrating anything at all, in any of this…There’s no “dancing on the grave”, happening here…

…I just think it’s creepy as fuck…that so many people are acting like…”Nope!…No!…I don’t see any problems here!…anywhere!…ever!…Nothing Alex does, should be treated like it violates anything!…Alex is totally beyond the point, that any internet platform should be able to reign him in!…no matter what!”…

…I don’t agree with that philosophy…and not just because, the same level of privilege has not been afforded to me…I only pointed out this contrast earlier, to exhibit just how bad YouTube is, about equal opportunity in speech, and equality in terms of service enforcement…

I don’t agree…because, even though I would prefer to have a “wild west” YouTube…that is not the animal which YouTube has decided to be…and we’ve been given certain parameters in which to behave [granted…with a rather shitty degree of clarification].

If YouTube’s rules and terms mean anything at all…then they need to mean something, even when it’s a huge celebrity habitually violating them…I’d argue, especially when a huge celebrity habitually violates them…

There shouldn’t be all these people, acting as though they are oblivious, as to how Alex has a history of violating the terms and rules…and acting like this outcome, was not an obvious anticipation of his violations…

I don’t watch InfoWars…but I’ve seen tons of clips…and I know the show, from it’s past…when I did used to listen to it…

Can any one of his outraged supporters explain…how it is, that Alex magically does not have a long history, of violating the terms and rules of YouTube, etc.?…

…Because I’ve seen plenty of it…and I don’t understand, how you can arrive at an opposite conclusion from me.

Is it shitty, that YouTube, Facebook, etc., etc., has this much power on the internet?…

…Yes, it absolutely is!…And I agree with anyone, who believes that things need to change, in that regard…

…I agree…we need to have that discussion, about keeping an open place for the unpopular [and even a-hole] voices…

…I don’t know, that there is a “but”, which I even want to put here…

…It just sets so, so foul with me…that this is “the straw”, which everybody is losing it, over…

…It’s such a wrong “straw”, to push people past their limit…

Everybody knows, YouTube, Facebook, etc., is a bastard…

…If they were at all consistent in their enforcement policies…this likely would have happened, years ago…

…And I think everybody also knows, this is true.

Ugly truth…there are tons of people, who rightly deserve a total ban from social media networks…

…Why are any of them suddenly so critical and precious, when their number comes up?

My only shock in the past few days events…is that these companies actually mustered the integrity, to actually do it…

…I’ve been left perplexed for years…as to why they still had not done so.

Pope Changes Church’s Teaching On Capital Punishment…


Date: August 09, 2018

01) Pope Changes Church’s Teaching On Capital Punishment


“Pope Francis has changed church teaching about the death penalty, saying in a new policy published Thursday that it is always “inadmissible” because it “attacks” the inherent dignity of all humans.

The Vatican said Francis had approved a change to the Catechism of the Catholic Church — the compilation of official Catholic Church teaching. Previously, the catechism said the church didn’t exclude recourse to capital punishment “if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.”

Citation:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/religion/pope-francis-changes-church-s-teaching-death-penalty-n896841

STUDY: Majority Of Censorship At Colleges Directed At The Left…


Date: August 09, 2018

01) STUDY: Majority Of Censorship At Colleges Directed At The Left


“The American college campus, we are led to believe, is a dangerous place: If you say what you really think, particularly as a conservative, a mob of young social justice warriors will come for your faculty position or invitation to speak on campus. Entire books and online magazines are premised on the idea that political correctness is sweeping the American university, threatening both higher education and the broader right to free speech…

Citation:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17644180/political-correctness-free-speech-liberal-data-georgetown

Is Donald Trump likely to be impeached? – BBC Newsnight…


Date: August 09, 2018

01) Is Donald Trump likely to be impeached? – BBC Newsnight


“As the trial of Donald Trump’s former campaign chief heats up, is the collusion probe even the biggest legal threat for the president?

Here the US President’s former adviser Sam Nunberg and Elizabeth Holtzman, who helped impeach Nixon, give their thoughts on how likely Donald Trump is to be impeached.

Newsnight is the BBC’s flagship news and current affairs TV programme – with analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.”

Can Alex Jones Sue Government Officials and Mass Media For Collaborating in Suppressing Speech…


Date: August 09, 2018

01) Can Alex Jones Sue Government Officials and Mass Media For Collaborating in Suppressing Speech


“Can Alex Jones Sue Government Officials and Mass Media For Collaborating in Suppressing Speech

Alex Jones and Info Wars have been removed from all major social media sites. Can the platforms be held liable for terminating Alex Jones accounts? Can government officials be held liable for forcing these social media platforms to suppress info wars? Can mass media competitors who pushed the social media companies to ban Alex Jones be held liable for anti-competitive acts?”

Christianity, Crimes, and the Constitution (with Andrew Torrez)…


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Date: August 09, 2018

01) Christianity, Crimes, and the Constitution (with Andrew Torrez)


“Andrew Torrez, an attorney and host of “Opening Arguments,” joins Seth Andrews for an in-depth conversation about the law, the Constitution, the Supreme Court, church/state separation, and the Religious Right in the era of Trump.

Opening Arguments podcast:
https://openargs.com

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“Hunters” Don’t Do So Well, Here: Good For The Goose, Good For The Gander [MAPs Need To Stand Up and Fight Back!]…


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Date: August 09, 2018

I wrote something as a comment, for another post…which ties into the Mellisa fiasco…and, I decided to post it in this series…because it’s very relevant, to what happened…and explains a few things, deeper.

I’ve been victimized by multiple smear campaigns [including at least one, high profile one], at the hands of several different sociopaths, over my many years online…all for doing nothing more than being a BoyChat poster, and/or running a fully legal blog, where I am open about being a MAP.

I am exactly the wrong sort of person to attempt this sort of stunt with…because I am fed up with it…I understand the underhanded innerworkings of it…I understand the maliciousness an gross naivety of the people behind it…and I wont tolerate it, at all.

You try to grab onto me with your malicious intent…and you’re going to discover, that you’ve haplessly wandered into an angry force of nature…and I will chew you up, and spit you out…Don’t you ever doubt that…

I don’t suffer malicious idiots well, at all.

I do fight back.

I am…however…imminently fair and honest.

Original Post:

https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/2018/08/09/perverts-take-revenge-on-vigilante-paedophile-hunter-who-helped-convict-28-sex-offenders-by-falsely-portraying-him-as-a-child-abuser-online/

Comment:

It’s food for thought…

…I mean…what’s good for the goose, is good for the gander…right?

Though, the people fighting back may very well get prosecuted for “malicious communication” [and how’s that, for draconian “1984”?]…it is heartening, to see victims of these “hunters” fighting back.

Many of [these “hunters”] never thought the tables even could be turned on them…But, it’s fully within our power, to find out who they are…start looking into them…and make things known about them.

Most of us wont spread false “pedophile” allegations about these people, because we are too principled to spread a [presumed] lie.

…But, some will fight fire with fire.

…I’ve seen the tactics these sorts use, to attempt entrapping people…It is absolutely believable, that they ensnare people innocent of the charges…Hell…they’ll exploit your good nature and play upon your pity/empathy, just to identify and destroy you…

You are always in danger of false accusations, from these sorts.

I speak as someone who has never been in the cliché chat room setting, “looking for victims”…Some of these a-holes merely stumble across what you are legally doing, online…and then they attempt to construct an entrapment to lure you into…or they just pull accusations straight out of their own behind, and start publishing them on their website.

I speak from personal experience, with this…I can testify, that both have happened to me, entirely without any illegal intent or activity on my part.

Various sociopaths will simply proceed to do this…despite that they have absolutely nothing to base it on.

To them…it’s all about running a successful smear campaign…which they know, is the only thing they are engaged in.

This case kind of reminds me of Mellisa Z…who has utterly surged forward, with making baseless, serious allegations towards various people [including myself, and this blog]…

…But the moment I started standing up and fighting back…out comes the sobbing and the protests…

…Allegedly, in the face of Mellisa using her legal name, recording her own face and voice as she names and viciously smears people [which endangers and interferes with those people]…it’s supposedly “doxing” [and doing something “unspeakable” to] her, to do a little bit of “counter googling” on her, for the purpose of informing visitors to this blog, what is really going on with that sociopathic, nincompoop.

It’s like…she never comprehended, that someone [like myself] was going to find out who is loudly making false accusations [and threats] against them.

…What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander…

…I can be a “google sleuth”, too…It’s brain dead easy…[which is one of the reasons why I scoff at it so hard, when so many people heap accolades of praise upon Melissa, as if she were amazingly talented, for doing what countless people have been doing online for decades]…

…But, Ms. Z didn’t have the common sense, to conceal her own identity…before she decided to take up the practice, of malicious online smearing…and just as serious…issuing threats against individual people, and waging campaigns of harassment.

If nothing else…I’ve got enough information to take legal action, if ever necessary.

…And my public blogging about the whole nasty incident, was part of that documentation…I wanted it out in the public [from the start], so it would be public record [from beginning to conclusion]…Nobody could accuse me of making anything up, long after the fact.

People like Josh and Mellisa [and they’re hardly the first, or only] are so ill prepared and clueless…that they end up shocked, when their malicious acts to harm and destroy other people, start creeping back onto them, with unforeseen [yet, fully justified] consequences…

They live in this fantasy world, where they imagine that their victim “is a pedophile”, absolves them of all wrong doing…

…That does absolutely nothing to absolve them, when they have a history of making up and spreading malicious lies about [and making threats towards] individual people.

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