Date: February 27, 2017
01) Interdegenerational Milo
“(attempt at a) take on the Milo furore.”
Deluding one’s self, to avoid believing they are a victim:
There are a number of mental gymnastics that “normal” people go through, in order to deny the validity of these kinds of relationships…and this is one of them.
Just completely sidestep the quality and nature of the relationship [as well as it’s outcome], and reframe it as “abuse” by default.
It’s a simplistic and obviously corrupt tactic…but if enough people get behind it, then whomever they decide to designate “a victim” may find it impossible to fight back…especially if they lack an equal or larger group of their own, to stand by them.
Milo has every right to call the relationship in question beneficial, positive, wonderful, etc, etc…whether with a priest, or a drag queen [as the story may have evolved, or happened with more than one person]. If this was his experience with it, then he has a right to clarify it as such.
That it makes certain other people pissy, only points to the fact that those other people have a psychological, and ethical, deficiency…and that they are being aggressive towards minority sexuality, and the people who’ve benefited from it.
Trivializing the suffering of others, by enjoying the experience:
This is another one of the dirty tactics…pitting two unassociated groups, and their interests, against each other…pretending as though the people having a genuinely good experience with their own sexuality, are somehow “in the way of” and “inhibiting” the protection of other people who are being sexually brutalized, or forced against their will.
It is a brazenly false equation.
The only thing that is really happening here…is that people who would be sexually active of their own accord, are being forced to conform to a social norm, with the poor excuse that “they cannot protect victims, without doing this” as the catalyst.
Real victims are being exploited…in order to enforce a moralistic social norm.
We could suggest that the establishment is just too lazy, to put in the work of investigating and making intelligent distinctions…But more likely, it is a combination of this cash cow of forcing people through “the justice system”, and religious moral outrage, and sex panic…and phobia of social change.
Is it selfish for a pedophile, hebephile or ephebophile to say it’s okay?:
Just because something may fit one’s own needs, does not make them “selfish” in talking about it positively…nor render them incapable of giving insightful, valuable and honest opinion on the issue.
I mean…really…this is possibly the only human interaction I can think of…where they essentially forbid you from saying anything positive about it…and they get even more hysterical, if you are at all inclined to take part in such things.
This is all part of the social censorship and concealment…You must repeat the rhetoric…and they don’t allow the people with practical, level headed and positive experience, to take part in the dialogue.
What we get is a subjective, hysterical feeding frenzy…It does nothing but reassert and reaffirm, the skewed and hysterical mindset…and acts as a menacing warning, to anyone who might wish to speak differently.
You knew about this ages ago?:
You know what?…So did I.
…I posted about his appearance on the Joe Rogan show…almost a year ago.
This has actually been floating around out there, for a long time…
…Apparently, those out to get Milo wanted to be strategic in their timing…which says a number of things about them.
Yes, Milo has lost, and lost, and lost…over saying something, that needs to be said:
It says everything about this war on freedom and human sexuality, and the people behind it…when they refuse to face you directly…and the only way they can win, is by making it impossible for you to even fight…or fight back.
Destroying one’s ability to sustain themselves, is a common tactic of these power tripping cowards.
…They wouldn’t even know what to do, if they were confronted with us in masses…and they were actually forced to answer for their own actions…They’d likely be scrambling for any route of escape, while simultaneously soiling their underwear.
…They never actually have to justify their own behavior…They just ride the popular social wave, that’s already been built for them…and throw stones at others, from their point of advantage…pretending that they’re some kind of moral human being.
I guess this guy is a white nationalist…apparently…I may not have a whole lot more I wish to respond to…We’ll see.
A few thoughts:
I would agree, the alt right and Milo were strange bed fellows.
…But I think it was more the young, millennial right, who was embracing him…and they are substantially different where it comes to homosexuality, than the historical right has been.
I almost find it hard recognizing them as being on the right.
I suppose…this did all come back around, to bite a lot of people in the behind…in a sense.
I wouldn’t suggest Milo sacrificed himself, just to be a plant and egg the face of the alt right…but it does make you wonder, what he was doing in allowing himself to be associated with them. Maybe it’s that the alt right is new, and not well defined?
It’s disgusting watching people attack Milo, at his low point:
I fully agree.
I make no excuse for my own harsh words towards Milo, in this…
…I’ll just clarify once more, the framework in which I offered them…
…I’m sick to death of watching people wade into the social issues of MAPs, and causing a spectacle…when they wont even stand by their own words and convictions, in the aftermath.
There was no reason for Milo to even go there, in the first place…But he did, and it cost him big…And now he’s backtracking, and playing “the victim” card [and repeating common rhetoric], to garner public sympathy and soften the blow he is receiving.
What?…is this waffling troll now going to end up a “victim’s rights” advocate, as part of his public penance?
He’s already established, just how quickly he can jump onto that crazy train…when he was previously moving in an opposite direction.
He’s clarified…it’s “anything that’s best for me in the moment”…
Nobody needs an “ally” like that.
This whole thing is just incredulous.
I totally agree with you…I find this to be amongst the scummiest of social behavior.
It’s a tactic of overwhelming people…It’s often bullying, as well.
Shitty to kick someone, while they are down:
Yes, it is…
…But it’s also a good time for discussion, when something like this comes about.
The shitty behavior of various people, should be dissected…and called out, for what it is.
The better people know how to focus on the issues, while not demonizing Milo for expressing a viewpoint.
To me…this spectacle is clearly about extreme social intolerance…
…and the only thing that condemns Milo…is Milo’s own response to it.
…I guess he doesn’t really care so much about free speech, and social intolerance, after all.
…Very disappointing, coming from someone who’s styled himself as some kind of champion, regarding those issues.
Okay…I’m bailing on this one…I’m a third of the way through…and this is moving way too slow.
I really don’t like these long videos, where people just ramble on…not when it comes to making these sorts of responses…It could conceivably take me three hours or more, to get through this, if there is much meaty substance to respond to…and I don’t have all day for this.
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