Snap Judgment #720 – Genetic Sexual Attraction…

Date: August 13, 2016

01) Snap #720 – Nuclear Family [MP3]

“One mom, one dad, 2.5 kids and a white picket fence? This week on Snap Judgment we get real. From WNYC Studios, Snap proudly presents…”Nuclear Family.”

Genetic Sexual Attraction [GSA]…

This segment starts at 26:50.

I’ve heard of this sort of thing before…when relatives who are estranged [or maybe never met] finally meet…and they end up having sex with each other.

Sometimes it turns into long term relationships…and there have been a few high profile examples over the years, involving celebrities [IE: Mackenzie Phillips].

While I do wonder if GSA is a real thing…it’s hard to deny the relative commonality of consensual incest. Is there something there which some of us pick up on, that others don’t?…Something that makes a close blood relative, especially appealing?…Or do we somehow lack an inborn nature, which would make close relatives unappealing under all circumstances?

I’ve believed for years…that the natural inclination of humans when offered sex, is to willingly have sex…and that when we choose not to, it’s because of other mitigating circumstances. Yet even if turned down…many will have still wanted the sex…and will possibly masturbate to the fantasy later, in private.

I think…sex is every bit as alluring with a blood relative, as it is with a non-relative…and that no biological barrier is in place, to ward off it’s temptation.

Whatever barriers exist [or don’t], are cultural…as well as a matter of interpersonal relationships…

…For example…if marrying your first cousin is common place in society, then nobody is going to think anything odd of it…

…And as to interpersonal relationships…if a family member is especially mean towards you, you are probably not going to want to play around with them sexually, or be comfortable having any form of sex with them.

Of course…there are always exceptions.

CIVILIZATION VI – E3 2016 Walkthrough…


Date: August 12, 2016

01) CIVILIZATION VI – E3 2016 Walkthrough

02) Civilization VI YouTube Channel

“Watch the behind-closed-doors theater presentation of Civilization VI at E3 2016. Narrated by Sean Bean.”

I guess it releases on October 21, 2016…

After the horrible misstep of Civ 5, I just don’t know about this one.

I purchased everything Civ 5, except the Beyond Earth [or whatever it is called] expansion…I just kept holding out, wanting to like Civ 5…After a few hours of Beyond Earth, I completely washed my hands of everything Civ 5…and dreaded imagining, that I may be done with the series, if “this” is their idea of a good, new direction.

It felt like they were trying to drag the series more into the realm of real time strategy…and I hated it.

All the stuff that sounded interesting about Civ 5 [like city states], I felt was just lame in implementation…and proved to be more a nuisance, than anything else.

Interesting ideas were in Civ 5…they may be salvageable concepts…but they just were not fun…and they really dragged the game down so much, that I simply did not want to play it.

I was so desperate to find something about Civ 5 that I would love…that I kept buying…but the game was just a turd…only made moderately more interesting by it’s expansion.

…So, I am overjoyed to learn that they are scrapping Civ 5, and rebuilding from the ground up.

Still…they’re going to have to go a few extra miles, and prove themselves to me again…before they get any money out of me for Civ 6.

A few “wish list” things, however…

…I’ve always wished that they would visually simplify who the allies are…and things like who shares a defense pact…It’s always annoyed the hell out of me, that you can’t tell at a glance who all you’ll end up at war with, should you declare war on another civilization.

Another thing…since we are talking about a new incarnation of the game…If we are forced to get vital resources from trading with other civs [city states, etc.]…I want it more obvious when some other civ starts demanding that I cancel all trade deals with another civ, whether I’ll be cutting off a vital resource to myself.

I’m sure I could come up with more to say…

…Bottom line…I’m not rushing out to buy this one.


No “strict liability” for soliciting minor online for sex, if minor claimed she was above the age of consent…

Date: August 10, 2016

01) No “strict liability” for soliciting minor online for sex, if minor claimed she was above the age of consent

“Say you are trying to pick someone up online for sex. You’ve never met in person, but she tells you in your online conversation that she’s above the age of consent (16 in most states, 17 in some others, 18 in still others). Let’s say that you have no reason to think she’s lying, but she is: It turns out that she’s underage. You never meet and you never have sex. Can you still be prosecuted for soliciting a minor for sex, on a “strict liability” theory — i.e., that you were trying to pick up someone who turns out to be underage, even though you didn’t know this or have reason to know it?

No, says today’s Minnesota Court of Appeals decision in State v. Moser, holding that a state strict liability solicitation statute was unconstitutional.

The child-solicitation statute makes it a felony punishable by up to three years in prison for “[a] person 18 years of age or older” to solicit “a child [defined as someone under age 16] or someone the person reasonably believes is a child to engage in sexual conduct with intent to engage in sexual conduct.” Solicitation may occur “in person, by telephone, by letter, or by computerized or other electronic means” (emphasis added)…. The statute clearly states that “[m]istake as to age is not a defense to a prosecution under this section.”

This underscores one of the worst problems in law, and law enforcement…the people behind it commonly don’t care, and live their lives as though they don’t have to care…

This is what happens when law and law enforcement become dogmatic ideology.

…They remove any allowance for legitimate human error…They just want their arrest and conviction stats high…and to remove people who like the wrong kind of tail from society.

Law enforcement in the USA is literally a “by hook, or by crook” venture.

GirlChat: A bit of historical perspective…

Date: August 09, 2016

01) Merge with GC?

Free Spirits did give rise to Girl Chat, yes…And as I recall it, when they were surveying the general attitude of BC BLs over it, there was an overwhelmingly accepting tone [so long as they maintained responsibility of their own board].

I don’t know what has brought on this era of vitriol…But there once was a day, when some of us were proud of Free Spirits, for having given GLs a place.

While I’ve never honestly had any deep level of power or control, here…I have considered myself amongst the people, who helped GLs get their own board.

I’ve always been supportive of this [as well as general BL / GL empowerment], since my earliest days on BoyChat…That may come as news to a few people…but it certainly should not, as I’ve never changed my stance.

…It is part of our legacy, to help GLs…despite our differences, and despite whomever around here is trying to break that alliance.

Yes…to respond to something I meant to mention…I know about Common Ground…Why wouldn’t I?…I participated in the discussion prior to it’s formation…and I am all but positive, that it’s namesake was taken from a comment in one of my posts.

Things have changed a lot since then…BLs and GLs have been intermingling for years, including at dreaded places online like twitter…And we don’t have all of this manby pamby drama and tantrum throwing, like has been witnessed in this thread.

Any decent person learns how to rise above their differences, and see the humanity in others.

…Get a grip, people…

…An individual has arrived and made a suggestion…The sky is not falling, in a blazing flame…Someone has simply given us a starting point, for a discussion […oh, the horrors]. Anyone can shape the discussion, bringing it around to something more palatable…

…Some of the ways a few BLs have decided to respond in this thread, have just been embarrassing…entirely uncalled for…and the foundation of bad will.

We all know that short of some kind of LEO take down, BoyChat is not dissolving [and likely not GirlChat, either]…I don’t know what any of you find so personally threatening here…

…But your chosen responses have exposed way more about yourselves, than anything else.

A Piece of History: Phillip Greaves II…


Date: August 08, 2016

I’m hesitant to share this first video, because I’m unclear of the nature and integrity of the channel behind it…and with it originally coming from a channel and series named “REICH WATCH Aryan Empires”, which appears obsessed with “truther” level “exposes” on Adam Lanza…I strongly wanted to leave this one out…But it has an actual copy of the Anderson Cooper episode in it, which is relevant to this case. Last time I was searching for that content, this video was the only thing I could find.

01) The Amazon pedophile handbook

02) CNN: ‘Pedophile guide’ author speaks

03) ‘Pedophile’s Guide’ Author Defends Book

04) Pedophile Book Author Interview – NF5 Raw Video

05) Author of pedophile book arrested in Polk County

06) Pedophilia author busted on Polk warrant

07) ‘Pedophile’s Guide’ Author Arrested

08) Interview With The Author Of Pedo Guide [another copy of the NF5 Raw Video]

Guy’s rant about social hypocrisy (there are additional relevant news bits):

09) Pedophile Guide’ Author Confident E-Book Will Be Back on Amazon

The base facts:

In 2010 [2009?], Phillip Greaves II published a book titled “The Pedophile’s Guide to Love and Pleasure”. He listed it on He sold a few copies of it, including one to a cop in Florida…who was purchasing it, explicitly to be able to evoke a vague, Florida obscenity law. Charges were filed, as was a warrant for arrest…and Philip’s home state arrested and extradited him to Florida. Phillip acted as if he was going to fight this case, but he did not.

A simultaneous campaign working to force to purge “pedophile books” latched onto this, and quickly leveraged it into an act of brazen censorship…what some of us refer to today, as the Book Burnings.

This was an attack on MAP expression, the likes of which we had never seen in the modern era…And because of our lack of organization and resources…it was a disaster…and a complete injustice.

Yes…This all happened in the United States of America…a territory which fraudulently calls itself “the land of the free”.

A few comments:

a) Sheriff Grady Judd represents everything that is most wrong with law enforcement, today. He pursued a man, and abused his own position of power, in order to attain an underhanded [and ethically indefensible] outcome he wanted…all because he was morally outraged, at the thoughts and opinions of another human being.

Grady Judd is exactly the type of human being I am talking about, when I employ the term Moral Supremacist. These are people who work to destroy other human beings, on the grounds that they philosophically disagree with them.

We have way too many Grady Judds in positions of social power…and these people are the real predators of society.

b) This is the most stark and shocking attack on the free speech [and expression] of Minor Attracted People [MAP’s], in recent history.

It was exactly the type of case which demanded being fought…Yet despite Phillip’s initial talk, he very quickly relented, and took a plea deal…and handed these people some easy, “case law” precedence.

c) We need greater organization and unity as MAP’s, in order to fight this exact type of brazen abuse.

I have no idea why the ACLU was not all over this [like they should have been]…but that fact that Phillip was left stranded, alone in this situation…that says probably the single most damning thing about the larger MAP community.

d) Most of us MAP’s were blindsided by this…We did not even know anything about this book, which was only listed for sale a matter of days…and sold very few copies.

This incident did hurt us, however…in that many relevant books [including empirical research], were delisted from…when some group [which had been trying to get “pedophile books” banned from, for years] seized on this abnormal set of circumstances, and leveraged it into forcing to “ban” an entire list of books they did not want listed.

They effectively made certain books [some rather important], harder to find…harder to get a copy of.

e) I’m sure Phillip never imagined things would transpire, as they did…and he did not expect his simple, open expression to become the center of such an important battle. I’m sure he was acting in good faith, with an honest conscience.

…I still would have never advised anybody, at all, to bring cross state commerce into something like this…because it opens up too many additional angles of attack. If he wanted to express these things to people…he should have just done it on a website for free, out in the open…with disclaimers…and probably anonymously.

f) I have a hard time speaking ill of Phillip, or of his book…which I have never read…

…But I will say this…

…The nature of his book, “A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure”, is not something which most of the books getting black listed deserved being judged by.

Most [if not all] of the books, were not of that nature. They were not “how too” manuals…

…They simply explored pedophilia either as a research subject, or as a social issue.

Why they all got taken out, based upon Phillip’s book…is the big scandalous question.

g) needs to do the ethical thing, and restore these book listings.


M.A. Voice: Issue 12 – August 03, 2016…


Articles and content from Minor Attracted People [MAPs], presented in no particular order and without preference or discrimination. These are diverse viewpoints.

Date: August 03, 2016

01) kabouter: the long arm of the Hysteria

02) Hummingbird: Poem: A Boy on the Bus

03) leonard sisyphus mann: Francis Kilvert & His Diaries – part 2

04) Tom O’Carroll: Acceptable danger: the sky is the limit?

05) Filip30: Important study about child-adult-sex from Finland [important thread]

06) Ender Wiggin: Pedophilia As A Sexual Orientation

If you’re a Minor Attracted Person [MAP] who would like your content featured in the next issue, please use the form below to pass along the necessary information.

You may also submit content created by other MAPs. Any form of legal content [written, audio, video, artistic, academic, personal expression, etc.] will be considered for inclusion.

All submissions made via this form are private.


Other Issues

The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening…


Date: August 03, 2016

01) The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening

“Ken Ham’s “Ark Encounter” has been hyped – by some – as a tour de force of biblical truth, adventure, and potential tourism dollars. It officially opened on July 7th.

Our four (atheist) panel guests were there for the occasion: David Silverman, Tracey Moody, Dan Broadbent and Aron Ra. They give us the report from the field.”

Ignorance and Incredulity at the Ark Park

Atheist_Media_SB_ArchiveAtheist Media Links

More Top DNC Officials OUT Amid Leak Scandal…

Date: August 02, 2016

01) More Top DNC Officials OUT Amid Leak Scandal

“Three top officials at the Democratic National Committee will leave their posts this week amid the controversy over the release of a cache of hacked emails from the committee.

Chief Executive Amy Dacey, Chief Financial Officer Brad Marshall and communications director Luis Miranda will leave the DNC days after a new leader took the helm.

A trove of nearly 20,000 emails were posted on WikiLeaks last month. They included some emails that raised questions about the faith of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s primary rival, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, and others that seemed to disparage donors.

The release of the emails sparked a firestorm on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, leading Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz to announce her resignation. Longtime Democratic strategist Donna Brazile took over as interim chair immediately after the party’s national convention ended Friday.”

Feel the BURN: Bernie Hot Mic Proves He Was Never a Real Candidate…

Date: August 01, 2016

01) Feel the BURN: Bernie Hot Mic Proves He Was Never a Real Candidate

“Most of us knew this already, but now here’s proof. Is Bernie going down fighting for his political beliefs like a real presidential candidate would? Is he even being remotely honest with his supporters at this point? Nope. He’s keeping his mouth shut and staying on script for Hillary — who everyone knows will be the worst kind of tyrannical dictator — saying, “I’m proud to stand with her”. “

I think the people behind this video are distorting the facts, somewhat.

By the point in time that speech took place…fair or not…the nomination was lost for Bernie.

Should he have endorced Hillary?…

…Hell no.

…But his bid for the presedency was over…unless he wanted to jump to an independent party.

It doesn’t really mean anything, that the formalities of it all had still not come to conclusion.