Date: June 22, 2017
01) Documents Tie Berkeley Riot Organizers To Pro-Pedophilia Group, NAMBLA
“BAMN’s parent organization worked directly with the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in the years just before it founded BAMN, according to NAMBLA documents reviewed by The Daily Caller. In addition, a member of that parent organization said to have founded BAMN is an admitted member of NAMBLA, which she has described as the victim of a “witch-hunt.”
I want to say this from the outset…The article linked only establishes a loose connection, between NAMBLA, and an association [RWL] from which BAMN would allegedly spring…Though, let’s keep in mind, that we are talking about one member of the RWL, founding BAMN…and BAMN has some association with ANTIFA.
The article, itself, does not claim NAMBLA created ANTIFA…and it’s not my intention to suggest that it does…
…The problem is, that some hysterics have been using the information in this article, to claim that NAMBLA created ANTIFA…and this is what I am responding too.
However much some people like to mock and dismiss this reality…it should be noted up front, that there are a lot of people in this world who get treated like utter garbage by the establishment…and by the majority of people, who are led by that establishment…
Reality is…when you’ve beaten down and conditioned people so severely, that they realize the establishment is there only to impoverish and destroy them…they will no longer recognize the establishment [and those who keep it going] as being ethical…decent…or anything other than treacherous…
…And why would it be any other way, when we have so many people who have tried to engage the existing system, which is allegedly democratic [though it absolutely is not]…just to be injured, or even destroyed, for their honest and peaceful effort?…
This is not a convoluted outlook…It’s sterile, dry reality, for those of us who are relentlessly hounded by the system, for no other reason than being born and existing…in an establishment, where this is an entrenched and germane part of it’s culture…
…Of course…people this badly disenfranchised and persecuted, will tend to find and associate with each other, in opposition to their shared tormentors. This is common sense…and it’s an alliance which the establishment makes necessary.
Let’s keep this in mind, when evaluating the allegation that “NAMBLA created ANTIFA”…
What I am seeing here:
What this amounts to, is a historical alliance between the RWL [The Revolutionary Workers League] and NAMBLA [The North American Man Boy Love Association]…and a member of the RWL is claimed to have formed BAMN [By Any Means Necessary].
At least one BAMN spokesperson has been documented at ANTIFA demonstrations, riots…whatever you want to call them…
There were some shared political positions between RWL and NAMBLA…
There is at least one person [Eileen Scheff], who is a RWL and NAMBLA “crossover” member…And she is the one claimed to have founded BAMN…
So we have NAMBLA associating with RWL, decades ago…And a person who was member to both, founding BAMN…And ANTIFA somehow being affiliated with BAMN…
…Hardly a smoking gun…
Since Eileen Scheff is hardly the entirety of NAMBLA [is she even still a member?]…would it not be fair to acknowledge, that her personal actions outside of NAMBLA do not constitute “an act of NAMBLA”?…
Personal thoughts:
I’ve never associated ANTIFA with “pro-pedophilia”…nor have I ever recognized them as allies…
…Where have they ever put that message forward?…Nowhere that I have seen.
…I think ANTIFA is a horrible, destructive movement, in the way it is presently manifesting itself…Just incase it wasn’t already clear to you…I condemn ANTIFA…
It would not make me sad, if they started rounding these destructive rioters up and taking them off to prison.
That being said…it is my stance that people being legitimately tormented by the establishment, do have a right and duty to organize and fight back…
…But what does ANTIFA even stand for?
…I’ve never seen anything from them, that made me feel welcome as a MAP…I’d never show up at one of their demonstrations to participate in it.
This entire narrative [that ANTIFA came from NAMBLA], is something which clearly has been pulled out of the butts of hysterics…based on convenient associations amongst “the trash minorities”.
There is no credible proof here, that NAMBLA created ANTIFA, or that ANTIFA exists for the benefit of NAMBLA.
Last comment, I should not fail to mention:
Having personally followed NAMBLA for most of the last twenty years…I have a fairly solid handle, on what the modern day NAMBLA is about…
The whole idea that NAMBLA would in any way associate with ANTIFA, sounded completely wrong to me…unbelievable…not credible…It does not fit with their historic stances.
I asked for comment from someone I know to be a leader in NAMBLA, at present…
…He confirmed that NAMBLA would never have anything to do with ANTIFA, as ANTIFA is a fascist organization…
He also gave the common response, that nothing about NAMBLA should be believe, unless the information comes from NAMBLA…All other media should not be trusted.
…I concur with that.
As to the activities of BAMN and ANTIFA:
You cannot be a friend of MAPs, by attacking open free speech and dialogue…Doing this makes you absolutely opposed to the modern day MAP movement…It makes you a problem for MAPs…and for youth and children, as well.
If you are going to do these kinds of demonstrations…you should at least have the common sense, to stop targeting non-government citizens and groups…and start focusing on politicians, and the people with political power who are terrorizing the private citizens.
That is where the hotbed of this problem exists.
