Date: January 28, 2017
“Liberal groups have sought to jam Republican phones lines with protests of President Trump’s nomination of Betsy DeVos as Education secretary.”
Date: January 28, 2017
This reminds me so much, of the way most people talk about MAPs…
…They ignore 99.999% of the facts, and throw at you a parade of extremely weak talking points and slogans…which themselves could be disproven, with a little bit of research.
These sorts depend on the public’s lazy apathy…and the public’s need for something, or someone, to demonize and unite against.
Donald Trump may have been elected to perform a handful of promises he made to the U.S. public…and he may be working to make good on those promises…
…but he was not elected to turn the presidential cabinet into a freak show…
The quality and nature of his picks, feel an awful lot like an unanticipated slight of hand…
…I mean…it’s Trump…and he’s a wild card…But I’m not so sure a lot of people saw this coming.
Trump may have successfully tapped into the sentiments of the public…
…But today, he’s seeming more like maybe he was just a well calculated plant, organized and put in place by ultra conservatives…and religious loonies.
“The state is not more important than the people…The people are the state.”
This is a great social ideal…and one which western nations often claim to hold as a core principle…
…But in practice, these countries love their scapegoats and class ladders, as much as anybody else…They love having people to spit on, hold in contempt and abuse relentlessly…It’s just that western countries are more mindful at concealing their own treachery, and failures as a civilization.
The biggest difference, is “the west’s” ability to sanitize the dialogue and rhetoric.
“The people are sovereign”?
…No…they most certainly are not.
If you’ve got a massive collection of people, who want nothing more than to be treated like the Borg…then I guess you’ve got something on which to speculate, maybe, a kind of sovereignty could exist…But it’s reliant on a collective platform, and not a true sovereignty everyone can realize.
This “sovereignty” is little more than a bid to seize power, which can be overthrown by any other Borg collective that has the numbers behind it.
…Which is why western governments tend to be such an insane clustered mess, of endless pendulum swinging…from one extreme to another.
Most people just get helplessly dragged along with it…That is not sovereignty.
One positive thing I can say about the ruling class of other types of countries…is that they are at least honest about what they are…usually.
Here “in the west”…we just lie to ourselves, to make ourselves feel better…because the truth of the matter is very ugly…and many fear the price, of actually forcing things to change.
Date: January 26, 2017
“David and Tamler go back to basics–discussing a paper (Victoria McGeer on responsibilty and Strawson) and arguing about restorative justice. What is the function of attitudes like resentment and anger? Do they presume anything metaphysics of agency? Why is Josh Greene trying to erode the moral scaffolding of society? Plus we talk about the latest Aeon troll piece on why sexual desire is wrong.”
Date: January 26, 2017
“…it looks like a group of internet trolls have created a new term to upset social justice warriors and mock LGBTQs.
Last week, individuals began identifying as “clovergender.” The term began being used to identify children who are trapped in the bodies of adults. They are calling for acceptance of this new identity, comparing it as an equivalent to being transgender. They are also claiming that because they are children trapped in the bodies of adults, it is OK for them to have relationships with children.
Well, Snopes looked into this, and the whole thing is a scam. It is meant to upset people and throw a wrench in the LGBT community’s movement for equality.”
“The term was evidently created by pranksters in order to mock individuals of non-binary gender.
That the concept appeared from the ether on or around 1 January 2017 strongly suggests it was a hoax.
Several users captured 4chan screenshots from 31 December 2016 and 1 January 2017 demonstrating that the “clovergender” idea was cooked up by resident pranksters in an attempt to mock individuals of non-binary gender (i.e., transgender people, gender fluid people, and people of alternate gender):”
Child Lovers have never given their endorsement to the “CLoverGender” thing…In fact, I have yet to encounter another Child Lover, who has any knowledge of this “CLoverGender” groups prior existence.
I had a few of these people on one of my Twitter lists, then I moved them to another list…They seemed kind of disingenuous.
Thing is…you start getting into this “cis gender” [Etc.] rabbit hole, and some of those people…I mean, “CLoverGender” is not a far leap, from anything to expect out of them…But I found the “child trapped in adult body” thing intriguing enough, to where I wanted to watch it for a bit…get a better sense of what was happening.
These findings are no shock.
It was not lost on me, of course, that they were commandeering “CL” in this effort…
CL is one of our terms, and it stands for Child Lover.
Myself being a Child Lover…I naturally wanted to keep an eye on this…Because these people are potentially causing even more trouble for us, than anybody else they may target.
The LGBTQ feels mocked?…
…Well, they coyly stole and incorporated one of our well used identifiers…How do you imagine we feel?
…And we’ve still got the PizzaGate B.S. dragging on, from these idiots.
A Comment Demanding Response:
“This seems like something NAMBLA would do. Are they connected to this somehow?” – Tim Peter
On what do you base this fantastical leap of yours, Tim?
Having watched NAMBLA [I was considering joining, at one point in time] for a good solid fifteen years or more…I can tell you they have no history of this kind of thing, at all. In fact, it sounds exactly like something NAMBLA would steer absolutely clear of…Nothing about NAMBLA’s historical conduct, indicates that they want anything to do with this type of behavior.
For your information…NAMBLA has been accused of all sorts of ridiculous things.
Here are only a few of them:
a) Newgon and NAMBLA Covered in Media
NAMBLA is no stranger, to having both gross distortions of it’s organization spread about, and incredulous accusations of criminal activity made against it.
In a world where almost nobody cares to look closer, check facts and dig deeper, before swallowing these stories wholesale…NAMBLA is the sort of group, which is forced to be unquestionably scrupulous and on the level…unlike virtually any other group in existence, past or present.
Tim…you clearly do not have understanding of NAMBLA’s intent, code and mode of conduct, focus and manpower…
NAMBLA has nothing to do with harassing other marginalized groups…When it was still allowed, it used to help support other such groups.
NAMBLA has such little manpower, that it has trouble keeping regular updates [IE: adding new articles and commentaries] on it’s website…even with at least two volunteers overseeing it.
…And you have the idea, that they’ve all run off to commit this “CLoverGender” hoax, for a lark?
NAMBLA is one of the only groups I can name, which stood up and fought in court, to protect one of the most crucial rights in the U.S. Constitution…Had NAMBLA lacked the will to fight, it would have established devastating case law…which could have ultimately had wide reaching consequences on everybody in the USA. The day they can arrest you for sharing information, or sharing an opinion…is the day the first amendment right to free speech is dead.
The entire USA owes a debt of gratitude to NAMBLA, on this ground alone.
There has never been a more of the people, for the people patriotic, pro-freedom group in the USA, than NAMBLA.
Call that personal opinion, if you want…but it’s based on many years of following NAMBLA, and it’s leaders.
NAMBLA actually embodies, most American ideals…and fights on behalf of them.
…Most people are just too blind to see this.
Date: January 23, 2017
“When it’s not possible for family or friends to be at a patient’s bedside in their final hours, a volunteer program in hospitals called No One Dies Alone works to ensure that terminal patients aren’t by themselves when they die.
It started in Eugene, Oregon, in 2001, and now volunteers can be found in hospitals across the country. Here & Now’s Jeremy Hobson talks with Marilyn Judson, a volunteer with No One Dies Alone at UCLA Medical Center, Santa Monica.”
Date: January 23, 2017
Well…This will be interesting.
Date: January 22, 2017
Thanks for this find, Puer Aeternus.
“This passionate talk from Dr. James O’Keefe MD gives us a deeply personal and fascinating insight into why homosexuality is indeed a necessary and extraordinarily useful cog in nature’s wheel of perfection.
James H O’Keefe MD, is a Board Certified Cardiologist and Director of both the Charles & Barbara Duboc Cardio Health & Wellness Center and the Preventive Cardiology service at Saint Luke’s Mid America Heart Institute. He is also Professor of Medicine at the University of Missouri-Kansas City. His postgraduate training included a cardiology fellowship at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. Dr O’Keefe is board-certified in Cardiology, Internal Medicine, Nuclear Cardiology, and Cardiac CT Imaging. He is consistently ranked among the ‘Top Doctor’ lists regionally and nationally as one of America’s Top Rated Physicians in Cardiology. He has been named as one of USA Today’s Most Influential Doctors. Dr O’Keefe has contributed more than 300 articles to the medical literature and has authored best-selling cardiovascular books for health professionals including: The Complete Guide to ECGs (which is used for Cardiology Board Certification), Dyslipidemia Essentials, and Diabetes Essential.”
Date: January 21, 2017
“In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with psychologist Jordan B. Peterson about freedom of speech and the nature of truth.
Jordan B. Peterson is a clinical psychologist and Professor at the University of Toronto. He formerly taught at Harvard University and has published numerous articles on drug abuse, alcoholism and aggression. He is the author of Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief.”
An open letter to Sam Harris:
“Dr. Sam Harris and I recently had a discussion: https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-is-true We hit an impasse over the definition of truth. I don’t think we got to where we should have, and I think the listeners felt that. So in this video (I also sent the letter to Dr. Harris) I try to sort some of that out, try to make what I was claiming clearer, and suggest what we might do instead.”
|– Atheist Media Links|
Date: January 21, 2017
“Grayson Smith is an Alabama toddler, born with heart and skull deformities, epilepsy, breathing difficulties and more. Though he wasn’t expected to survive his first weeks, he’s now a gregarious 3-year-old.
His mother, Jenny Smith, started a Facebook page several years ago to get support from fellow parents, and to support other parents going through the same challenges as her own family. So she was surprised and dismayed when she found that photos of Grayson had been stolen from the page and were spreading around the internet as a cruel meme. She decided to fight back.”
Maybe there are just a lot of people out there who are mentally ill?…I don’t know…
…Or maybe this type of thing, is the fallout of a culture where people are no longer physically close…and they don’t have to empathize, or deal with the face to face aspects of life?
This creates a lot of people, with stunted personal growth…a lot of people who should know better…but, what happens online “is not real” to them…or it’s all so impossibly black and white to them.
Thinking back…I remember some things I did as a kid…sometimes, completely without ill intent…sometimes, being a bit mean and not thinking things through…
It put me through some valuable learning experiences, to see the response to my actions…to feel the terrible feelings…to make sure they were okay…and to apologize.
This is something vital that’s missing, when all you do is type, or “speak on your computer”.
I think a lot of these people aren’t seeing, or comprehending, what they are doing.
Date: January 20, 2017
For those who don’t mind visiting twitter:
It’s a lot to slog through…and you can tell there are a lot of people piling on, who “just have to believe”…common sense, facts and evidence of substance be damned.
These are people who are merely discovering [possibly for the first time], “networks of pedophiles”…which is to say, generally, loose associations of MAPs, who talk with each other and the public, and who share information…
They appear to have a heavy skewing towards superstition and religion…They arrive on the scene already certain, that these vast networks of pedophiles are kidnaping, raping and murdering children…despite that they have nothing to prove this belief…
And as soon as they discover you, as a MAP, they’re highly eager to throw you into that mental category, no matter how weak [or non-existent] the “connection”.
Not so long ago, I ran across this one person on YouTube, suggesting that pizzagate be used as a cover all term, to reference everything they deem “pedophilic”…no matter whether it has anything to do with Clinton, Podesta, Comet Ping Pong, or not.
I get the sense, they are trying to take things in that direction…And they’ve been trying to claim that a guy who frequents one of the pizza places in question [maybe both], argued on behalf of sexual liberation for youth and children…and that he posted at least one such statement, here on BoyChat.
Given this is alleged to have happened, around the time when I arrived here …It’s almost guaranteed impossible, that anybody is going to be able to confirm or rule out this possibility.
Gee…yet still another pizzagate claim, out of numerous, that cannot be proven or disproven…It’s like they’re trying to piece together some “case”, to take everybody they don’t like down…but they’re basing it on, “You can’t disprove it…So, Na Na Na, Na Na!”.
I can only give two comments on all the stuff I’ve slogged through, as concerns BoyChat…
I do recall somebody carrying on a conversation here about handkerchiefs, as relates to them being a symbol of sexual orientation…This is a vague memory…but I do recall it happening…I’m not sure if it went into the more gross direction, that the pizzagate people have gone in.
The question of someone incorporating the BLogo into a business sign also feels vaguely familiar to me…but there is no way I could say, what the context of the discussion was.
Even if a long standing MAP who was connected to the pizza places did happen to post here at one time…that’s not exactly shocking, given that BoyChat is one of the oldest websites on the internet.
A person posting something on BoyChat, essentially decades ago, in no way implicates this community in the fairytale those people are trying to spin.
I think Bill Maher summarized this type of thing best…
…”It’s idiots talking with other idiots”…and they’re working themselves up into a tizzy, over it.
These people don’t even seem to know what they are talking about…It’s a conspiracy theory gone wild.