“What goes up, must come down… Welcome to the story of the Commodore Amiga. This is part 1 of a 2 part documentary exploring the history and story of the mighty Amiga from its conception through to its buyout by Commodore. This episode deals with the “up” part of the story, and takes place during the 1980s. It charts the conception of the Lorraine machine (that would become the first Commodore Amiga), the early years and team spent working on the machine, the buyout of Atari followed by Commodore, the launch of the original Commodore Amiga machine (later renamed the Amiga 1000) and the subsequent Amiga 2000 and Amiga 500 machines which conclude before 1989 is out. In the second part, we’ll look at the 1990s, when the Amiga peaked and then fell to its regrettable demise.”
01) LGBTQ-Pedophilia Mainstreaming of Pedophilia .WTF?
You know what’s so messed up about people like this guy?…
…It’s that they don’t even understand the people they are attacking…yet this does nothing to stop them, from saying all of these ridiculous, disgusting, dehumanizing things about other people.
Now…for sure…he does touch on one or two things, I rightly should expand upon…But, on the whole…this guy is convoluting several widely different issues…and he doesn’t have a coherent understanding of what he’s trying to put into words.
I don’t think I’m ever going to get past the fact…that a guy [Todd Nickerson] has come out as a MAP, in order to address social stereotypes on MAPs…while deeply associated with a group that condemns all adult minor sexual relations, and echoing that groups viewpoints…and you have all these people going half out of their minds, claiming that Todd is ultimately there to legalize sex between adults and children…
…What this means…is that what is factually going on here, has completely went over the heads of numerous many people…And they’re all talking hyper and frantic amongst themselves, working each other up into some kind of panic.
…Are they simply incapable of the cognition and dialogue?
…And what are we to do about these sorts of people?…I mean, we can ignore them…but it seems like such a waste.
Oh, look!…He’s another person living in a fantasy world, where the government is writing laws to serve us MAPs…All this in the face, of the atrocities these governments have systematically committed against us MAPs…He probably imagines we are secretly controlling the government…
This degree of disconnect, is just staggering.
…And you’re another person, who’s trying to frame this as though children’s rights and MAPs rights are in conflict…when they never have been.
A question I want to pose to this guy:
You claim that we MAPs cause injury, harm, violence…whatever the word was you chose…
…You can cherry pick bad news stories, of children who’ve been raped, brutalized…even murdered…A portion of those news stories may even be about pedophiles…But these are not representative of typical MAP behavior or ethics.
How do you justify claiming that MAPs [“pedophiles”] cause harm?…Who have I, as a pedophile MAP, harmed in any way?…How can you generalize in this way?
I have harmed nobody, at all.
Countless MAPs, will harm nobody at all…
…You have no idea, the extent to which we MAPs have bent over backwards, just to cater to the laws, customs and paranoia, of people like you…So many of us don’t even live a full life, because of this…Many MAPs have suffered dearly, because of this imposition and trespass, at the hands of people who lack the capacity to share empathy.
…And all you can manage, is calling us monsters, when some of us offer ourselves for a public dialogue?
No, guy…the people you are specifically referring too, are not talking about normalizing pedophilia…This is something that people like you have made up.
In close:
You don’t get to pass yourself off as “the good guy”, when you just got done completely misrepresenting everything here.
The people you’ve decided to target and talk trash about, are literally pushing for things like support groups, social support structures to prevent MAPs from violating laws [which includes sex with children], and safe access to mental health care for MAPs in need of it.
They actually condemn the very notion, of society changing it’s laws regarding sex between adults and children…But does that make any difference to you?
…So much more fun and satisfying to kick up a fuss, and pretend like you’re being a hero?
Certainly…we have cognitive capacity, which puts our sense of morality in a different state than that of the other animals…Though, I’d be careful in saying ours is “above” theirs…In some ways, it’s more refined…In some ways, it’s over analytic…In some ways, it’s terminally paranoid…
…Most other animals have the luxury, of being able to just go about the business of survival and living, without overactive minds getting in the way of it all. There may be a brutality and harshness in their existence…but it’s an honest existence, that hasn’t been sullied by false interpretations of violence…Their violence is real…not imagined. There is something beautifully refreshing, about that level of honesty.
…Humans are not so honest…and they relentlessly tear each other down, based on little more than differences in how we live, look, think and speak.
…Our evolution in this regard has not been one of progress…It’s merely been a shift in style and focus.
We humans can say “that is probably not a good thing”…yes…And why do you presume, that MAPs are in any way lacking this cognition, or lacking the resolve and moral compos to refrain from doing things they’ve judged as bad?
By my judgment…sticking my erection [or anything] up the anus of a child, is absolutely unacceptable…And as a MAP, I have lived a life of several decades, having no trouble avoiding my erection ending up in anybody’s anus.
What you suggest about us…is that we somehow lack the capacity to control ourselves…You don’t even know what you are talking about…Stop trying to dehumanize us.
Who is going to benefit from the acceptance of MAPs?
…MAP’s, yes…but also, anybody who in any way has been spared the fallout and experience, of any person [MAP, or otherwise] who has been driven over the edge.
If we had a more intelligent way of socially embracing MAP’s…it’s very conceivable that many of the high profile cases that went into creating things like Megan’s Law, likely would not have happened at all.
A radically different social approach to MAP’s, and human sexuality, would only serve to protect people.
The left promoting degeneracy, and hating the family?
Oh, good grief…
…Do you understand the concept, of tearing the boil open…and bringing the difficult subject of discussion to the surface, in order to fully understand and address it?…Because I don’t believe you do.
If there is any hate for the family…I’ve only witnessed this hate, from within the confines of a religious family, headed by a heterosexual marriage…Because you “normal” folk have enough hate for it, to tear your own families apart, at a staggering level…whether they split up [which is common] or not.
The left doesn’t promote degeneracy…
…The left recognizes [usually], that the people the government taps into for taxes, public service, military service, etc, etc, etc…include the exact same people, who are homosexual, bisexual, etc, etc, etc…and that they have no valid ground, on which to deny these people a voice in the creation and implementation of law, and public services.
Gay marriage came about…because most people got sick of the government telling productive members of society, which it exists upon the backs of, that they cannot have equivalent rights with everybody else. For an increasing number of the U.S. population…taxation without representation, has been brought to a stop.
…This country, it’s laws and customs, do not belong to “you”, just because you imagine yourself to be normal…or typical.
…You should not expect it to cater to you, and your sensibilities, alone.
…You’re not the only one here, who has to scratch out an existence, buddy.
There are plenty of people here, who don’t need your intolerance getting in the way of their ability to live a meaningful life.
“The mechanism of harm has rarely been mentioned more than in the most cursory fashion, and never really systematically investigated. Unlike other subjects of grave concern, like cancer or heart disease or even AIDS, there has been no funding set aside to understand how sexual experience causes harm, or really even to test the assumption that it does — even though several maverick researchers have demonstrated the need to look more deeply at this assumption.”
One has to question…just why so many “sex abuse” research studies have been conducted…yet this commonly present question in other research, of “what causes this harm”, is glaringly absent in “sex abuse” research…or at least woefully under explored.
It’s been my personal suspicion…that they simply don’t want this information out there for the general public…because they don’t want to confront, what they are likely to establish as true.
…What they find, is not going to be convenient to modern social practices and beliefs…and just as damning, in conflict with an established, powerful “sex abuse” industry.
…Wherever the money, moral outrage and over the top emotions are located…so gets dragged everyone else.
01) To MAP Humanity with Todd Nickerson – Episode 1
“In the premiere episode of To MAP Humanity, we examine the history of pedophilia as a concept starting in the Victorian era and moving to modern times.”
About “Pedophiles Attaching Themselves to the ILGA Movement”:
It’s important to respond to this…
There are MAPs who wish they could wipe out all mention of “pedophile advocacy” groups, from the history books…At least in the sense, that they wish those groups had never really gotten off the ground, or played any recognizable role in the sexual [and human] liberation movement.
These MAPs view that history as more of a liability today, than anything else…And this can be a very sore spot of contention, between different camps of MAPs.
You can generally tell where a MAP falls in this divide, by the way they talk about groups like NAMBLA, Martijn or Project Truth [and other groups, like the Danish Paedophile Association].
In a very real and genuine sense, it does pain me to see MAPs dragging other MAPs through the mud…I think it does show a lack of respect, where respect should be afforded…especially when dismissing MAPs who were sincerely trying to make the world a better place…and many of them paid a heavy price for it.
I’m not suggesting that Todd crossed that line, here…I’m just acknowledging that it’s a far too frequent occurrence, these days.
There is too much in fighting, amongst MAPs…and I’m extremely weary of it, myself…Which is why I try to stress, “Let’s agree to disagree”…Because an outwardly active MAP voice, is a rare commodity…even when there are substantive disagreements. I’d rather see a diversity of MAPs out there forging a public voice for MAPs, than to remain in a largely silent demographic…And I legitimately respect those MAPs, for taking this step.
This is why I share a diverse range of MAP voices…even when I’m gritting my own teeth, in the process. It’s embracing the reality, that we are not all of one mind…And that the various groups of our demographic should discuss these issues.
That being said…
…I don’t take a whole lot of issue with how Todd phrased the participation of groups like NAMBLA…Basically, just one thing…
MAPs were there all along, in the over all ILGA movement…They just didn’t have established organizations, dedicated to their specific groups and issues, early on. It took a witch hunting prosecutor to attack a man and a teenager, to get a Christian church in Boston [of all things] to mobilize a movement in their defense…A movement that would soon become the North American Man Boy Love Association.
I give Todd props, for not trying to suggest that “pedophiles were trying to sneak into the movement”, as is the typical flimflam of people trying to sully the history of groups like NAMBLA.
Fact is…there was nothing more out in the open, than the formation, existence and goals of NAMBLA, in the ILGA…The gay community [and ILGA, itself] originally embraced NAMBLA…and only betrayed NAMBLA, after being forced into a corner [by the U.S. government]…and deciding that things like self determination, self worth, rights to a public voice, rights to safety, stability and mental health, and any number of other human rights, were not so important where it came to children, adolescents and MAPs.
MAPs were there to help build what the ILGA [and all the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, etc. groups] has today…But when the chips hit the floor, the ILGA fractured this movement, and hijacked it’s momentum…turning it into something sterile, and largely meaningless…An assimilationist movement, adopting the words and mindset of it’s own oppressors.
Todd calls the people who gave rise to NAMBLA “the most radical parts of the movement”…But, at that point in history…the movement itself was nothing, if not radical.
It wasn’t about being this pathetic, politically correct movement we see today…It actually cared about, and focused on, the individuals who are sexual outcasts…
That was where the heart of the movement rested…Which is why they don’t even have the same movement, today.
…They are just as likely to attack sexual outcasts today, as any other group…Because now, their groups exist in a place of privilege…and they don’t need to know, understand, experience or live, the existence of a reviled outcast group…So many of them don’t even comprehend what that means, or what it is like.
They have absolutely lost touch, with their own roots.
It is not right to claim that MAPs tried to climb aboard, what gays and lesbians already had…MAPs were already there, amongst the gays and lesbians…And all of the sexual outcast groups understood, that they needed numbers wherever they could get them…and they needed unity…especially at that point in history.
Once certain groups started to attain social standing and stability, and it came time for them to take a principled stance in defense of MAPs…That’s when the knives came out, and MAPs got stabbed in the back.
There was no tangible separation between gays, lesbians and MAPs, prior to this point…
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05) Viamund The Rake: Foolish Gay Assimilationist Parade In Toronto This Weekend: Never forget 1994
06) Tom O’Carroll: The laws against ‘abuse images’ are abusive
07) Tom O’Carroll: Heretic TOC gets its mojo back
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01) VIRTUOUS PAEDOPHILES?! The world and its people are very sick.
“Understand this…Paedophilia is being normalised by our mainstream media.”
This one is mind numbingly painful, because UnderstandingConspiracy is a one trick pony…Lot’s of sneering and “I doubt it!”…The substance and dialogue are nowhere to be found…and there is certainly no signs of deeper human empathy, or respect for MAP humans.
…Instead, we get treated to his notions about satanic abuse, brainwashing propaganda and religion…
This guy is actually presented with the textbook, medical definition of “pedophile” [or “pedophilia”, I forget which…and I’m not hunting it down right now]…But he somehow knows better, rejecting the established and historic definition, in preference of his own opinion.
He confronts the fact, that even some child protection groups are supportive of Virtuous Pedophiles…and he just throws out more of his psychological impotence to act as a wall…It sheilds him and his audience, from ever having to genuinely respond?
I’m not giving a whole lot of response to this…For a half hour video, there is barely anything to respond too…About the best I can do, is elaborate on things he is scoffing at…But I really don’t want to dissect the Todd Nickerson article and video…Not right now.
This UnderstandingConspiracy guys video is honestly all about himself…And he probably doesn’t even realize why.
One small, humorous note:
I’m kind of astonished that I’m not seeing people jumping out of their skin, upon encountering Todd’s pants-less picture in that article…The one with his legs on full display, and his underwear clad crotch peeking out at us all…
I have to admit…I thought it was a very awkward thing to place in an article like this one…And to my mind, it’s something of an elephant in the room.
On a personal note…I’m not displeased…It’s a very cute picture…I just don’t get how people are processing it, as they’re sifting that article for anything to nit pick.
…It’s like an obvious joke on the mainstream population, setting there in plain sight.
I have no idea how it is, they didn’t have second thoughts.
I ask you sincerely, who deserves these words of vulgar abuse and hate, merely for daring to live, love and be loved?…
Have no doubt, that Child Love and Teen Love are a pure form of love…genuine and worthy of defense, no matter what some may say about it…
“Cases of positive memories of erotic and platonic relationships and contacts of children with adults, as seen from the perspective of the former minor”
For as much work as I have put into The EQF Community Links, it’s sometimes astonishing that even I forget what a wealth of information is linked there.
There are quite a few scholarly books linked at the EQF Community Links, which are entirely free to access.
The gem “Positive Memories” by T. Rivas is a relatively recent publication, which is also timely for me, given a Twitter exchange I am currently involved in…
…Some people imagine, that children [and grown adults] find no value in these kinds of relationships…
…Reality is…it is both life saving, and life changing, for untold numbers of people.
These types of relationships are something we, as MAPs, should be proud of.
