Date: December 12, 2016
01) Democrats & Republicans Unite In National Suicide Pact
“Hofstra University’s political science Professor David Michael Green wrote an article in Common Dreams detailing how the Democrats are just as culpable, if not more, as the Republicans in driving America off a cliff.
Jimmy Dore interviews Professor Green.”
Date: December 11, 2016
01) ‘Lives Are At Risk,’ Hillary Clinton Warns Over Fake News, ‘Pizzagate’
“It’s a danger that must be addressed, and addressed quickly,” Clinton continued. “Bipartisan legislation is making its way through Congress to boost the government’s response to foreign propaganda, and Silicon Valley is starting to grapple with the challenge and threat of fake news. It’s imperative that leaders in both the private sector and the public sector step up to protect our democracy and innocent lives.”
Am I honestly a fool, to suggest that stunts like “Pizzagate” [and the people behind them] are what will bring in an era of authoritarian censorship on the internet?
…I mean…this Pizzagate stupidity has rocketed from obscurity all the way to the porch of Washington D.C., in roughly a month…And now there are powerful people, who are looking at this problem and calling for greater powers to go after it…
…That’s really not much of a good thing…These powers of censorship and prosecution, inevitably end up being abused…in broad ways.
Date: December 11, 2016
01) COMET PIZZA, EXPOSED AGAIN (mirror Hacking the Headlines)
So…a pizza shop right in the hotbed of political country, happens to be heavily visited by the politicians there…and those politicians become very familiar with the establishment, and it’s owner…And being part of that community, the place ends up being a resourse for them…
E-mails surface where, potentially, code language is being used…and inside this mystery, people who have nothing to do with the place have decided that they must impose “child sex trafficking”…for no other reasons, than they imagine the place to host something “satanic”…and talking about children could potentially fit the scenario…
Where is this “pizza and hotdogs means little girls and little boys” even coming from?…Who came up with this?…Who is the source?
They could be talking about any number of things…literally.
…And an Instagram account?!!!…They’re assigning “child sex trafficking”, as the meaning behind some of his pictures he posted [or liked]?
…An implication that the pizza place has a sex room?…Have these people who are talking about all of this, ever actually been to the place in question?…Have they verified that such a room even exists, where this happens?…Or are they just a bunch of people who’ve spread all of this amongst themselves, and worked themselves up into a panic over it?
…”Pedophile symbolism”?…Because of spiral joke glasses?…Seriously?…If you set out determined to find these kinds of “parallels”, very little is going to stop you from seeing them…no matter how far the stretch.
…They held an event, where a mentally ill woman who paints pictures of children being raped had something to do with the flyers?…What was the event about?…Could it be, they were trying to raise awareness to child rape? It seems awful strange to me, that a place allegedly trying to run a secret “child sex trafficking” club, would publish and distribute flyers “blowing their cover”…Doesn’t that seem very strange to you?
We are talking about something here…which would demand such an insane extent of cover up…a sort of vast network, of probably thousands of people [maybe, tens of thousands], who are all completely un-phased by this…not a single one, with any moral objection strong enough, to say something about what is going on…And those who do have objection, being closely watched and threatened…And a network of government people, who are in on it…or who are willing to be quiet about it…All this vast mass of people, walk in lock step with regards to this “child sex trafficking” ring?…
The artist in question paints pictures of children being tortured, and this disturbs you?…It’s art…It’s supposed to cause emotional response…sometimes, even visceral response…
…You do realize, that many people who make these kinds of depictions are trying to raise awareness?…that they are not trying to promote the behavior?…
…”The handkerchief code”…I’ll admit I’ve never herd of this one…or of any substantiality in handkerchiefs, in sexual groups…Maybe it is a minority thing…but it’s an obscure and vague “dot” to be connecting.
…More “pedophile symbols” in neighboring business signs and décor?…Have any of you actually been to these places, and witnessed the things you claim true [including the sexual trafficking of children]?…Or are you just spreading all of these “dots” amongst yourselves, and working yourselves up into a hysteria?…There’s lots of pictures, you could have found anywhere…with your own assertions imposed over them…I am left unimpressed.
Oh…and a hand over a heart, is not the Girl-Love symbol…Even if it seems similar, it’s not the same thing…And I can’t even make out, what they are trying to connect with the BLogo…But just for a bit of perspective…the same general BLogo design has turned up on plates, used at the restaurant chain Red Lobster, within the last few decades…It has been used by various businesses, who have no actual connection with the BoyLove community. It’s called coincidence…It happens.
The general form of the BLogo has a kind of Aztec feel to it…and it’s not a hard design to envision…Hense, it’s not shocking that various people have used it…
…That the other pizza place stopped using a similar design is not surprising…They’ve likely been paying attention to all the stink surrounding this, and knew they didn’t want to be targeted also…
For the record…their logo looks like it’s supposed to be an artsy depiction of pizza slices…and only vaguely resembles the BLogo.
…”Disinformation propaganda”?!!!…People are pointing out how ridiculous and unwarranted your leaps are, in all of this…It’s because most sane people can quickly see all the problems here, with your assertions. Even if there’s a few intriguing bits…you haven’t made any sort of case, here.
You cannot take a wide list of vague things, and subjectively decide what they all mean, in order to make them fit some broader theory…and then expect rational people to believe you.
…Because, ultimately…it’s little more than a story you concocted, with cherry picked bits of content.
You want to make an extraordinary claim and have it believed?…It demands extraordinary evidence…
…You folks have not provided that…What you have provided, at most, is a ridiculously loose narrative.
…What little genuine point of question you do raise [the seemingly cryptic messages], could be explained in other ways…For example, if the thing being discussed is illegal…he could be discussing drugs…or money laundering [which may not be “fun”, but if you’re trying to make discussion seem innocuous, hey…].
Point is…us rational, thinking people can see…that there are a wide variety of things being potentially discussed…So, why have you instantly jumped to “child sex trafficking”?
Where are you getting to this conclusion, when you have nothing to back it up?
…And your blatant use of our community symbols in all of this?…
…You lose all credibility, by dragging the BoyLove, Girl-Love and Child Love communities into this…I know, for a fact, you are a bunch of crackpots on that ground alone…You don’t even care enough, to know the history behind our communities and symbols…And you drag us into your half baked conspiracy stories…You people have zero integrity.
Our communities are not about satanic rituals, child rape, or any other thing of that nature.
“Censorship” of you?!…You cannot be serious…You’ve gotten acknowledged by some of the largest businesses on the internet…Just because most of them are pointing out how shoddy your “investigation” has been, does not mean you’ve been censored…
…It means you are running up against the bitter realization, that most people recognize you as a crackpot…And you are not enjoying the wider reaction to your behavior.
You don’t believe they are innocently talking about pizza, because pizza is so well loved?…
…Well…pizza is only a $38.5 billion industry in the U.S.…and that’s according to the slumping statistics of 2015…Historically, it’s been better…
…I guess politicians aren’t allowed to be any part of that…
Oh no…”They can’t be talking about pizza!”…Because you are so hell bent on proving that a “child sex trafficking” ring exists.
…And “tunnels”?…Oh good grief!…I don’t know what is happening in those pictures, and neither do you!…Quit projecting!
I’ve known to many people like this…”They know, because they just know there has to be something going on.”…It has absolutely nothing to do with objective reality, or genuine investigation…It has everything to do with their personal emotional needs, to feel empowered [by “fighting evil in the world”]…Their is no talking sense to them…They get something into their head, and you cannot make them see their own folly.
I’ve gone about 15:30 into this…almost the entirety of the video…I’m very tired of making this response, and highly doubt this person is going to offer anything of substance [or a “smoking gun”], when she hasn’t done so over a long winded fifteen and a half minutes…So, I’m ending my response here.
As a thinking and rational person of decent intelligence…I dismiss this video as just another piece of propaganda…
You want to make extreme accusations, and assert them as if they are true?…Then bring the hard evidence…Otherwise, you’re just a blathering fool.
…Since what is “exposed” in that video, is represented as the “most important” pieces of this “case”…I’m confident in saying there is no case established.
It will be interesting to see, if any of the people spreading these accusations get prosecuted.
After several decades of promoting and fostering this kind of thing…the media is finally starting to take a hardline approach, to people who start and spread hysterical stories about “child sex rings”…
…And it’s about freaking time!
Having been around for almost half a century, and being forced to live in the world created by this noxious behavior…I’ve learned to take a hardline approach to it.
Look…There have been people out there, doing this exact same type of garbage for decades…And the media has been parading them all over the place…They are ultimately the reason why things are so bad today, in regards to the hysterics surrounding “stranger danger” paranoia, the relentless smearing and dehumanization of MAPs, vindictive “sex offender” law and overzealous child protection.
These exact sorts of people have been exposed, time and again, as frauds…They make the stories up, and spread them amongst themselves…to the point where large groups are talking about it all, as though it were true.
Various “experts in the field” have been exposed as frauds, and zealots…Let’s be level headed, and recognize when this is happening, all over again.
…It is happening before our eyes, with pizzagate.
Date: December 10, 2016
01) NPR Interviews James Alefantis of Comet Ping Pong Pizza
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Date: December 10, 2016
“I really am confused on what i have made today, but i just sparked an idea at the moment of making this video and decided to put my 10th grade skit making skills into play and collab it with something related to MAP/Pedophile topics and subjects, hope you enjoy.” |
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Date: December 09, 2016
01) Radio Conspiracy Theorist Claims Ear Of Trump, Pushes ‘Pizzagate’ Fictions
02) Direct Download [MP3]
“Alex Jones has a following. His radio show is carried on more than 160 stations, and he has more than 1.8 million subscribers on YouTube.
And he claims to have the ear of the next president of the United States.
Jones is also one of the nation’s leading promoters of conspiracy theories — some of which take on lives of their own. He has been a chief propagator of untrue and wild claims about a satanic sex trafficking ring run by one of Hillary Clinton’s top advisers out of a pizzeria in Washington, D.C.”
I was searching for a good interview I listened to, a couple days back…But I haven’t found it yet…I’m posting a few other things I’ve found in my search.
Date: December 09, 2016
01) MILO Visits Memories Pizza To “Apologize On Behalf Of The Normal Gays”
This is one of the reasons I tend to like Milo Yiannopoulos, despite that he’s something of a huckster much of the time…
…It’s clear that what happened with Memories Pizza, overstepped the boundaries of journalistic integrity…and that it was another orchestrated outrage, when it really didn’t need to be.
Should Memories Pizza have served the gay wedding?…
…Personally…I wish they would have…I wish that personal conflict did not exist…But it is their right, to decline services as well as decline entering into any contracts.
It’s not right for the media to shame people…It’s not the media’s place…and it’s not a good path for the media to be on.
I just ask why there are not more people in the mainstream media, who are interested in highlighting dialogue that works through these kinds of differences, and maybe finds a common ground…as opposed to going for the cheap, cut throat, hatchet pieces.
It seems to me…people think shouting others down and bullying, is some sort of answer…
…That mentality, is just another side of the problem.
Milo did something which was actually useful, here.
…People who are interested in a healthy culture could learn a lot, by understanding what is going on in this video.
Date: December 09, 2016
To LOD, thank you, for your insightful comment!…I appreciate it, and encourage you to comment here, wherever you have something to add. What follows, is a bit more clarification on why I’ve been focusing on this issue.
It was recently pointed out by LOD…that some people look upon me [Steve Diamond] as an agent of chaos…after I used the term, to reference the people behind “#pizzagate”…because I find it incredulous, that they would not know they are spreading false information [and innuendo]…I find it incredulous, that base human decency would not stop them from behaving in this manner, unless they were acting in a willfully malicious manner.
There is a qualitative and ethical difference, which separates sincere people trying to restore understanding and create a clear dialogue…from those who cobble together a wide range of content, and create a narrative around the flimsiest of speculation, because they want to create a public spectacle that makes trouble for other people.
This has been going on for a long time, to one degree or another.
It should not be ignored…that these shysters have dragged the BoyLove, Girl-Love and Child-Love communities into this, by taking our community symbols and dumping them right into the middle of this spectacle they have created.
…BL’s, GL’s and CL’s should be speaking out in response to this attack on us…This should be a source of outrage, to any self respecting BL, GL and CL.
I’m comfortable enough in saying, that most people did not want Hillary Clinton to be president of the U.S….But that’s no excuse for what these people have done…
…And please…don’t anyone suggest that this “story breaking” just prior to the elections, was “all coincidence”…
…Let’s not be stupid…This was not coincidence…People were trying to influence the election, an probably hurt people who they hate…Hillary and members of her staff, being amongst them.
The premise is incredulous…
The starting point has to do with Hillary’s campaign manager [John Podesta] discussing a pizza shop, where they had a fundraiser for Hillary’s campaign…and he talks about the pizza, hotdogs, etc. [the food such a place would serve]…And because this was expressed by him through e-mail a number of times over…some bozo has decided that it must be a cryptic message…And someone came up with this idea, that pizza means girl, hotdog means boy…and they allege some scale of age ranges, represented by different items on the menu…
…Who is this person, anyway?…They don’t seem to interested, in divulging that person’s identity…Why is that?
…And don’t give me the “they’re scared of being murdered”, flimflam…There are plenty of people, who would be overjoyed to take down Hillary Clinton and the people around her…And this could happen, if there were a solid case to pursue.
…It seems if they had a real case to pursue, it would not be ending up a video campaign on the internet, pushed by some source in the shadows.
In addition…they would not be carelessly dragging our community symbols into all of this, on the ridiculous grounds that “the FBI released a report on them“…The BL, GL and CL communities are not associated with this [real or fake] scandal…So, why are we being dragged into it?
See…people get away with this sort of garbage behavior against us…because we virtually never stand up and fight back against it…It’s become more and more belligerent and outrageous, as people who simply want to destroy us make up lies and spread them…There is no tangible consequence to these people, for doing that.
So…now our communities are fraudulently associated with some “child sex trafficking” scandal, which does not even objectively exist…based on unscrupulously cobbled together content, and a ton of unsupported speculation…all “supported” by the fact that the people targeted wont dignify it with a response…
…That is primarily what I am responding to, as this spectacle continues to evolve…It is what caught my attention and pulled me in.
…What kind of person even thinks, let alone reasons and acts, that way?…a person of bad ethical character and low intellect, who is not on the level…
If there is child sex trafficking through some pizza shop…by all means…shut it down, and prosecute people for it…
…But people should not be pulling these kinds of stories out of their own ass, and promoting them as if they were true testimony of a crime…
…And they should never be libeling entire groups of people, who have nothing to do with the alleged crime.
The “supporting facts” of this “case” are so incredibly lame…that even people of modest intelligence should be able to recognize their shortcomings…
Unless they have their own agenda…then nobody is going to claim that this proves anything.
One of the people pushing this:
01) Washington Post Just Blew The Lid On #PizzaGate Big League
Some of the things I’ve touched on in this post, were going through my mind as I watched this guys video.
He even goes so far as to reference “the FBI report” on our community symbols…Offering it as though that were justification, to include them into this fraud.
…And people calling David Seaman a bully?…
…Everything about this malicious campaign screams “bully”…It’s being forcefully shoved down people’s throats, while trolls are demeaning anyone who intelligently points out, just how ridiculous and stupid it is on it’s face.
…No…There is something extremely wrong going on, behind the scenes of “#pizzagate”…
People who are on the level, have no need for such ill behaved tactics.
PizzaGate Is 100% Real, Why Is Media Lying?
…”Demonic artwork” in the restroom…Their official accounts liking “inappropriate” pictures…Alleged five figure payments of money [to a businessman, with an establishment that can host events]…and “the owner is creepy”…
…and a good bit of innuendo…
The more David Seaman talks, the more he damns himself…
…What even is a pizza pack?…”We don’t know.” [spoken by David Seaman]…
…This is someone who is projecting, what they have no justification to suggest.
His own words are extremely telling…about he, himself…
Possibly…John disengaged from his Twitter account on the seventh, because he was focusing solely on the election, and not on his personal social media?…Possibly, he did not come back after the loss, because he wants some extended time away from it all?…Are these kinds of personal exiles unreasonable, after spending a year trying to win the White House?
Point is…it doesn’t really say anything, other than he had other things occupying his time…and after the loss, he probably wanted to separate himself from things for a while.
Why is David Seaman [and his cohorts] inflicting accusations of this nature, into communication he finds to be unclear, or in question?…It is very extreme, to do this sort of thing…and it just makes things more confused and convoluted, to drag our community symbols into all of this.
…But, then again…this would hardly be the first time people who believe in “the demonic”, have gone off the deep end of fanaticism.
We know these people are frauds, based alone on the fact that they took our community symbols, and included them in this “breaking story” without any valid reason…This is nothing more than a witch hunt…And they don’t care what they have to use, to alarm the masses.
It’s pathetic what they are stooping too…and even more pathetic, that some people are believing them.
…What this all amounts to, is that someone found a set of circumstances that could be exploited…and they started pushing a nefarious, dubious narrative built upon them.
This whole thing smells of a ramp up on the Hillary Clinton stands by her defense of 1975 Rapist of twelve year old child video…
I could not stand the notion, that we were being forced to have Hillary as our president…
…But, good grief, people…
…Get a freaking grip!
…And doubling down, is not helping you.
Oh…and they’ve already decided what the conclusion of their investigation is, right from the get go…long before any of it has even begun to be substantiated…
…Yeah…Thanks for reminding me of that, David.
…I don’t know what makes me more depressed about people like you, David…
…That you apparently believe in what you are saying, and the tactics you are using…
…Or that you don’t see anything wrong with those tactics, or that you’ve been hell bent on proving your unsubstantiated conclusion from the start…and logical reason cannot dissuade you.
…People like that just want something to be there, so that they can be the ones who swoop in like heroes and “save the day”.
There must be something going on, somewhere…Why not at Ping Pong Pizza?…
…It’s as convenient a place for conspiracy, as any.
…Facts and common sense be damned.
Date: December 07, 2016
01) Joanna Williams and Dave Rubin: Education, Free Speech on Campus, Brexit (Full Interview)
“Joanna Williams (University of Kent) joins Dave Rubin to discuss education, free speech on campus, Trump, Brexit, and more. This is part of our collaboration with Learn Liberty featuring interviews with classical liberals.”
