GirlChat: A bit of historical perspective…

Date: August 09, 2016

01) Merge with GC?

Free Spirits did give rise to Girl Chat, yes…And as I recall it, when they were surveying the general attitude of BC BLs over it, there was an overwhelmingly accepting tone [so long as they maintained responsibility of their own board].

I don’t know what has brought on this era of vitriol…But there once was a day, when some of us were proud of Free Spirits, for having given GLs a place.

While I’ve never honestly had any deep level of power or control, here…I have considered myself amongst the people, who helped GLs get their own board.

I’ve always been supportive of this [as well as general BL / GL empowerment], since my earliest days on BoyChat…That may come as news to a few people…but it certainly should not, as I’ve never changed my stance.

…It is part of our legacy, to help GLs…despite our differences, and despite whomever around here is trying to break that alliance.

Yes…to respond to something I meant to mention…I know about Common Ground…Why wouldn’t I?…I participated in the discussion prior to it’s formation…and I am all but positive, that it’s namesake was taken from a comment in one of my posts.

Things have changed a lot since then…BLs and GLs have been intermingling for years, including at dreaded places online like twitter…And we don’t have all of this manby pamby drama and tantrum throwing, like has been witnessed in this thread.

Any decent person learns how to rise above their differences, and see the humanity in others.

…Get a grip, people…

…An individual has arrived and made a suggestion…The sky is not falling, in a blazing flame…Someone has simply given us a starting point, for a discussion […oh, the horrors]. Anyone can shape the discussion, bringing it around to something more palatable…

…Some of the ways a few BLs have decided to respond in this thread, have just been embarrassing…entirely uncalled for…and the foundation of bad will.

We all know that short of some kind of LEO take down, BoyChat is not dissolving [and likely not GirlChat, either]…I don’t know what any of you find so personally threatening here…

…But your chosen responses have exposed way more about yourselves, than anything else.

A Piece of History: Phillip Greaves II…


Date: August 08, 2016

I’m hesitant to share this first video, because I’m unclear of the nature and integrity of the channel behind it…and with it originally coming from a channel and series named “REICH WATCH Aryan Empires”, which appears obsessed with “truther” level “exposes” on Adam Lanza…I strongly wanted to leave this one out…But it has an actual copy of the Anderson Cooper episode in it, which is relevant to this case. Last time I was searching for that content, this video was the only thing I could find.

01) The Amazon pedophile handbook

02) CNN: ‘Pedophile guide’ author speaks

03) ‘Pedophile’s Guide’ Author Defends Book

04) Pedophile Book Author Interview – NF5 Raw Video

05) Author of pedophile book arrested in Polk County

06) Pedophilia author busted on Polk warrant

07) ‘Pedophile’s Guide’ Author Arrested

08) Interview With The Author Of Pedo Guide [another copy of the NF5 Raw Video]

Guy’s rant about social hypocrisy (there are additional relevant news bits):

09) Pedophile Guide’ Author Confident E-Book Will Be Back on Amazon

The base facts:

In 2010 [2009?], Phillip Greaves II published a book titled “The Pedophile’s Guide to Love and Pleasure”. He listed it on He sold a few copies of it, including one to a cop in Florida…who was purchasing it, explicitly to be able to evoke a vague, Florida obscenity law. Charges were filed, as was a warrant for arrest…and Philip’s home state arrested and extradited him to Florida. Phillip acted as if he was going to fight this case, but he did not.

A simultaneous campaign working to force to purge “pedophile books” latched onto this, and quickly leveraged it into an act of brazen censorship…what some of us refer to today, as the Book Burnings.

This was an attack on MAP expression, the likes of which we had never seen in the modern era…And because of our lack of organization and resources…it was a disaster…and a complete injustice.

Yes…This all happened in the United States of America…a territory which fraudulently calls itself “the land of the free”.

A few comments:

a) Sheriff Grady Judd represents everything that is most wrong with law enforcement, today. He pursued a man, and abused his own position of power, in order to attain an underhanded [and ethically indefensible] outcome he wanted…all because he was morally outraged, at the thoughts and opinions of another human being.

Grady Judd is exactly the type of human being I am talking about, when I employ the term Moral Supremacist. These are people who work to destroy other human beings, on the grounds that they philosophically disagree with them.

We have way too many Grady Judds in positions of social power…and these people are the real predators of society.

b) This is the most stark and shocking attack on the free speech [and expression] of Minor Attracted People [MAP’s], in recent history.

It was exactly the type of case which demanded being fought…Yet despite Phillip’s initial talk, he very quickly relented, and took a plea deal…and handed these people some easy, “case law” precedence.

c) We need greater organization and unity as MAP’s, in order to fight this exact type of brazen abuse.

I have no idea why the ACLU was not all over this [like they should have been]…but that fact that Phillip was left stranded, alone in this situation…that says probably the single most damning thing about the larger MAP community.

d) Most of us MAP’s were blindsided by this…We did not even know anything about this book, which was only listed for sale a matter of days…and sold very few copies.

This incident did hurt us, however…in that many relevant books [including empirical research], were delisted from…when some group [which had been trying to get “pedophile books” banned from, for years] seized on this abnormal set of circumstances, and leveraged it into forcing to “ban” an entire list of books they did not want listed.

They effectively made certain books [some rather important], harder to find…harder to get a copy of.

e) I’m sure Phillip never imagined things would transpire, as they did…and he did not expect his simple, open expression to become the center of such an important battle. I’m sure he was acting in good faith, with an honest conscience.

…I still would have never advised anybody, at all, to bring cross state commerce into something like this…because it opens up too many additional angles of attack. If he wanted to express these things to people…he should have just done it on a website for free, out in the open…with disclaimers…and probably anonymously.

f) I have a hard time speaking ill of Phillip, or of his book…which I have never read…

…But I will say this…

…The nature of his book, “A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure”, is not something which most of the books getting black listed deserved being judged by.

Most [if not all] of the books, were not of that nature. They were not “how too” manuals…

…They simply explored pedophilia either as a research subject, or as a social issue.

Why they all got taken out, based upon Phillip’s book…is the big scandalous question.

g) needs to do the ethical thing, and restore these book listings.


M.A. Voice: Issue 12 – August 03, 2016…


Articles and content from Minor Attracted People [MAPs], presented in no particular order and without preference or discrimination. These are diverse viewpoints.

Date: August 03, 2016

01) kabouter: the long arm of the Hysteria

02) Hummingbird: Poem: A Boy on the Bus

03) leonard sisyphus mann: Francis Kilvert & His Diaries – part 2

04) Tom O’Carroll: Acceptable danger: the sky is the limit?

05) Filip30: Important study about child-adult-sex from Finland [important thread]

06) Ender Wiggin: Pedophilia As A Sexual Orientation

If you’re a Minor Attracted Person [MAP] who would like your content featured in the next issue, please use the form below to pass along the necessary information.

You may also submit content created by other MAPs. Any form of legal content [written, audio, video, artistic, academic, personal expression, etc.] will be considered for inclusion.

All submissions made via this form are private.


Other Issues

The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening…


Date: August 03, 2016

01) The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening

“Ken Ham’s “Ark Encounter” has been hyped – by some – as a tour de force of biblical truth, adventure, and potential tourism dollars. It officially opened on July 7th.

Our four (atheist) panel guests were there for the occasion: David Silverman, Tracey Moody, Dan Broadbent and Aron Ra. They give us the report from the field.”

Ignorance and Incredulity at the Ark Park

Atheist_Media_SB_ArchiveAtheist Media Links

More Top DNC Officials OUT Amid Leak Scandal…

Date: August 02, 2016

01) More Top DNC Officials OUT Amid Leak Scandal

“Three top officials at the Democratic National Committee will leave their posts this week amid the controversy over the release of a cache of hacked emails from the committee.

Chief Executive Amy Dacey, Chief Financial Officer Brad Marshall and communications director Luis Miranda will leave the DNC days after a new leader took the helm.

A trove of nearly 20,000 emails were posted on WikiLeaks last month. They included some emails that raised questions about the faith of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s primary rival, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, and others that seemed to disparage donors.

The release of the emails sparked a firestorm on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, leading Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz to announce her resignation. Longtime Democratic strategist Donna Brazile took over as interim chair immediately after the party’s national convention ended Friday.”

Feel the BURN: Bernie Hot Mic Proves He Was Never a Real Candidate…

Date: August 01, 2016

01) Feel the BURN: Bernie Hot Mic Proves He Was Never a Real Candidate

“Most of us knew this already, but now here’s proof. Is Bernie going down fighting for his political beliefs like a real presidential candidate would? Is he even being remotely honest with his supporters at this point? Nope. He’s keeping his mouth shut and staying on script for Hillary — who everyone knows will be the worst kind of tyrannical dictator — saying, “I’m proud to stand with her”. “

I think the people behind this video are distorting the facts, somewhat.

By the point in time that speech took place…fair or not…the nomination was lost for Bernie.

Should he have endorced Hillary?…

…Hell no.

…But his bid for the presedency was over…unless he wanted to jump to an independent party.

It doesn’t really mean anything, that the formalities of it all had still not come to conclusion.

Humanism Intro Part 1 & 2…

Date: July 29, 2016

01) Humanism Intro Part 1 – ‘Humanism’ Richard Dawkins, Tim Minchin, Andrew Copson, & more…

“Humanism is sometimes mistaken for a form of religion, or something which is very complex. Here, some well known humanists explain that all humanism really is, is people wanting to live ethical and happy lives, thinking for themselves, without religion imposing its own morals on them which are not necessarily compatible with living ethically today. Including interviews with: Richard Dawkins, A C Grayling, Tim Minchin, Andrew Copson, Polly Toynbee, Rumi Hassan, Philip Pullman, & Zoe Margolis.”

Humanism Intro Part 2 – ‘The BHA’ – Richard Dawkins, Tim Minchin, Andrew Copson, & more…

The Inherent Hate of Hate Speech laws…

Date: July 29, 2016

01) The Inherent Hate of Hate Speech laws

“Examining recent cases revolving arround hatespeech.
Closer examining a recent case in Scottland.
How hatespeech laws are set up in Europe.
How these laws could be exploited by SJWs and others.
How hatespeech laws are integrated in social media.
How corporate social media collaborates with government on hatespeech laws.”