Police slammed over memo saying Telford child sex abuse was ‘consensual’…


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Date: March 21, 2018

01) Police slammed over memo saying Telford child sex abuse was ‘consensual’

“Police have been accused of “victim blaming” children who were targeted by grooming gangs in the Telford sex abuse scandal.

Officers investigating child sexual exploitation in the town were sent an internal memo telling them “in most cases the sex is consensual”.

Some of the victims were just 11 years old and specialist child abuse lawyer Dino Nocivelli said: “This is victim blaming at its worst.

“The authorities just don’t seem to get it. Children cannot agree to sex.

“Just because a child is not being physically forced to carry out sexual acts, it doesn’t mean they consented.”

A person under 16 cannot be deemed in law to have consented to sex, but the word “consensual” was used to describe offences involving children four times in the memo.

When questioned about the memos West Mercia Police Assistant Chief Constable Martin Evans still referred to the issue of consent.

He said: “Any incident that is reported to us as child sexual ­exploitation is investigated as such and is taken very seriously, regardless of any consent which may or may not have been given by the victim.”

Ah…another one of those…

…Force the dialogue into strict submission to the law, and brow beat anyone “not with the program”.

Yes…”They who know best took a vote, and now the law says consent is impossible”…”checkmate!”…

Why is nuance so impossible for these sorts?

…It’s honestly not that sophisticated of a concept…is it?

When we discuss these kinds of issues…there’s a difference between a legal setting, and a natural setting…

…Perish the thought, that an eleven year old who just might have liked [or even loved] the sex, may have considered such a thing to be a bonus in the deal.

…”The law says no”…so…”Obviously, all laws of nature yield and warp, to the words in law books!”…

I swear…the stubborn refusal to acknowledge real world, true consent of the individual, is a form of psychological manipulation…It is an institutionalized lie, used to censor and sabotage real dialogue.

There is no reason anyone should have been offended by this type of revelation, nor those words being chosen to describe it.

…This is common sense reality.

In addition…the police don’t even give a damn, that “the victim consented”…They steamroll ahead, without a care to treat anything different…

…So…what possible good is all of this utterly useless outrage doing?…

Oh yes!…”Even the cops doing their bidding, aren’t submissive enough”…

…Refusing to use their pre-approved lexicon, challenges their “authority” to lord over how all the rest of us think, and speak about this issue.

This is why it is so critical, that we stand up and tell them where to shove their draconian “rules of speech”.

They’ll have you “hog tied, gagged and shoved in the closet”, while they go off and leisurely do as they please with out contest, before anybody else knows what happened.

We must be vigilant, and fight this social cancer.

Stand up and champion truth, no matter who does not want you to.

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4 thoughts on “Police slammed over memo saying Telford child sex abuse was ‘consensual’…

  1. Yure

    “This is victim blaming at its worst.”
    There might be no victim at all.

    “The authorities just don’t seem to get it. Children cannot agree to sex.”
    Statistical and anecdotal evidence says otherwise, so much that they agree to sex with each other.
    Statistical: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-011-9748-y .
    Anecdotal: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224490802204431 .

    “Just because a child is not being physically forced to carry out sexual acts, it doesn’t mean they consented.”
    He is blending “consent” as yes with “consent” as legal category. It would be better worded as “just because the child consented, it doesn’t mean the consent was legally valid” or “just because the child was willing, it doesn’t mean they gave informed consent”, thus separating both meanings of “consent”.

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  2. feinmann0

    “… the stubborn refusal to acknowledge real world, true consent of the individual, is a form of psychological manipulation…It is an institutionalized lie, used to censor and sabotage real dialogue.” So true. Moreover:

    1. They want it to be true. The liar wants their lie to be true so badly that their desire and needs overwhelm their instinct to tell the truth.

    2. It is not a lie to them. When repetitive liars say something, it’s often because they genuinely believe, at that moment, that it is the truth. Sometimes, this can become so severe that the liar creates an alternate world in their head.

    3. Lies snowball. Tell an itty-bitty lie, but then to cover that lie, the liar tells another one, then another, and another – each gets bigger and bigger. Finally, to admit anything creates the potential for the entire house of cards to come tumbling down.

    4. The liar does not want to disappoint people. A liar who tells lie after lie is worried about losing the respect of those around them. They want you to like them, be impressed, and value them. And they’re worried that the truth might lead you to reject or shame them.

    5. Telling the truth means giving up control. The liar tries to exert influence toward getting the decisions or reactions he wants. The truth can be “inconvenient” because it might not conform to the liar’s narrative.

    ‘Fascism is a lie told by bullies.’ E. Hemingway (1937).

    “We must be vigilant, and fight this social cancer.” With an emphasis on the ‘We’. Bullies are at their most toxic when they isolate their victim. Perhaps we should take steps to become a force to be reckoned with by raising the profile of our victim-hood.

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    1. eqfoundation Post author

      “Perhaps we should take steps to become a force to be reckoned with by raising the profile of our victim-hood.”

      Not a bad idea.

      I don’t mean this in a bad way…but I think Virped does things, which kind of plot out that path.

      Nobody wants to be reduced to a “sob story”…but the social impact has been devastating for many MAPs…

      …In part, this is one of the reasons I felt it necessary, to write down many of my own struggles as a MAP, and the occasional autobiographical essay.

      Sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander…

      …I’m a firm believer in the principle…that if our aggressors are going to make new rules, and set peculiar precedence to impose on us…we have every right to exploit those peculiar precedence, and shove the same tactics right back at them.

      Of course…they will cry and scream, saying it’s not fair to them

      …but there’s almost always something in there…some way to expose them for the charlatans they are.

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