Monthly Archives: October 2009

Happy Halloween!

Date: October 31, 2009

I just wanted to put a quick blurb in here, and acknowledge halloween.

This is my favorite time of year, and I’ve always thought of October, as being the true start of the holiday season…it is every bit as big, culturally, as Thanksgiving day, and Yule time…and even new years. It is the first, in a line of observations, where we engage in gatherings, and often set up elaborate decorations…give things to others, and generally act in a joyful, happy manner.

…I also get to give lots of candy, to lots of cute kids…

I hope this year was fun and safe for all.

It Is Not “Taking”…

Date: October 30, 2009

…BoyChat Post…

…BoyChat Post…

“I just don’t understand how someone can look into the sweet innocent face of a child and proceed to take what they want from the child, regardless of how it affects the child.

Not that I don’t think a tight teenage boys ass, or a set of firm teenage girls tits aren’t hot, because they are.

I just dont understand the whole child thing.”

It is not “taking”, so much as it is giving and sharing.

What’s In The Cards…

Date: October 23, 2009

[Context: A BoyChat poster was dealing with the “loss” of a friend, due to incarceration.]

A lot of us have been there…

You just go through it.

Even though I’ve not always been good about this, it is important to keep a steady flow of mail contact, with your friend.

As to denial…well…

…I think, what has helped me the most, is simply understanding that none of us asked for this conflict, nor to be expected to live isolated from our very nature.

Yes, I could name some child pornographers, as well as some people who’ve done things, that I do not consider a credit to our community…group…minority…whatever.

Some might deserve their fate.

For many, it’s just a case, where we are all human, fallible and frustrated…being pressured under something, which nobody should be expected to endure.

In this light, I can understand…a lot of BoyChat [etc.] people have been locked up, but that never meant they were bad people.

Sometimes, people take the fall, simply because that is what was in the cards.

Get a Grip: Cops and Charges “Solve Everything”!…

Date: October 22, 2009

01) BC Thread

02) Man Arrested For Being Naked In Own Kitchen

Conceivably, she may have been walking down the sidewalk, on main street, and maybe this guy has a particularly large window in his kitchen, open to the front of the house.

There still needs to be some kind of common sense applied here, and clearly, there is something psychologically wrong with anyone, who believes they need to call the cops, just because they inadvertently saw a grown man naked.

It seems, there are people out there, who believe they are entitled to a sterilized world, which only fits their notions of “appropriate”…with everything else being treated as a crime, or anti-social.

If they can call a natural, sexual orientation, which has existed throughout the span of our species, a “mental disorder”, surely that sort of anti-social, aggressive and hyper-intolerant behavior, deserves it’s own place in the DSM.

Of course, since the DSM is really all about legalities, politics and insurance…I wouldn’t hold my breath.

The DSM’s credibility is quite dubious.

What the Hell?…


Date: October 21, 2009

…YouTube Link…

Representative John Haller (R Pennsylvania) asks for a vote on HR 8791, “the homeland, terrorism preparedness bill”…

…and proceeds to read it (or a description of it), that is entirely uncomprehendable, because it is habitually censored, by the mere word “classified”, which is uttered to replace quite a few words, and/or phrases, which would actually render this vote comprehendable, as to what is actually being voted on in the first place.

…and they actually held a vote?…

How is this even legal?



Newgon and NAMBLA Covered in Media…

Date: October 20, 2009

Yellow Journalism, At It’s Absolute Worst

Somer Thompson, of Orange Park, Florida, was a seven year old girl who was kidnapped, raped and murdered [and possibly brutalized, in additional ways]…Her body was found in a large dump, in October of 2009.

Amidst the early unfolding of this case…A radio talk show celebrity from Florida, Malcolm Out Loud, decided that he [and his cast] was going to mentally tie both Newgon and NAMBLA to this horrific tragedy, by using an extremely loose and convoluted path, to pull them into his rabid ranting.

This was done entirely without the input [or likely even knowledge], of anybody from either group…Malcolm chose a scant few quotes from the Newgon website, but did not even attempt to give a full or balanced representation, of what we were factually doing or about. The chosen quotes, seemed conveniently cherry picked, to vaguely fit in with the Somer Thompson case.

In short…that “Malcolm Out Loud” episode was a complete outrage, a deep insult and an attack against anyone who was involved with either Newgon or NAMBLA…Naturally, some of us took very strong issue with this.

What follows, is my initial response on the Newgon forum, when this issue was first brought up.

Regrettably [or not?], it looks as though the show episode in question is no longer online…So, the link is dead…This has also brought to a stand still, a page I wrote to address this very same issue…Eventually, I may post that statement, anyway.

One very last comment…As a Child Lover…I wish larger society would come to actually understand, that a great many of us Child Lovers take the fate of children like Somer Thompson very deeply serious. It is every bit the same senseless tragedy in our eyes, as it is in the eyes of most people…including parents. The work we were doing at Newgon, had absolutely nothing to do with promoting what has happened to children like Somer Thompson. To suggest otherwise, is an egregious lie…and blatantly dispelled, upon actually visiting Newgon and reading it’s content…interacting with it’s participants…

Many things motivate us Child Lovers…Human rights and children’s rights, are amongst those things…Let me be clear…What happened to Somer Thompson, is in no way compatible with human rights or children’s rights…She was denied both, in what happened to her…

Additionally…one of my personal focuses, has always been on bringing Child Love [and Teen Love] out into the open, and combating the stigma and isolation caused by social intolerance. In my opinion, these deeply damaging effects of social intolerance, play no small role in what has happened to children like Somer Thompson…They create people, like the one who did that to her. Also, while we remain underground…we can never get a stronger handle, on these types of tragedies. Many of us Child Lovers, actively want better social support and structure within our own community, in order to stymie as many of these types of cases as possible.

The visions of Child Lovers [and Teen Lovers], often compliment children’s rights and child safety…Which is a fact of truth, you will never hear from a raving lunatic like Malcolm.

Newgon Link [dead link]

The Show [dead link]

How thoughtful of them, to couch all this, between unrelated, repeated reports of a small girl that just got kidnapped [possibly raped] and brutally murdered.

Much, to much rhetoric…much, to much propaganda…not much level headed, common sense, or signs of informed knowledge…

In short…Malcolm is a parrot.

Not so bad for free publicity, I guess…even if it is incompetently biased.

A few points…

1) If Malcolm and crew honestly cared about “the good people” coming together in support of child protection, then they would stop spreading disinformation, actually take the time to come here, learn and understand what this group is about [as opposed to surmising a ridiculous, skewed caricature of this site, and the people here], and realize that many of the good people, are already here.

2) The purpose of this site, is not to give encouragement, information or blessings, with regard to actual child rape, child murder, child kidnapping, or any other form of violence [if it were, I would not be associated in any way]. It is an online resource, which is filling a very vital need, in a world which is direly bankrupt of free flowing, fact based information on various forms of stigmatised human sexuality. Newgon is an answer to censorship.

3) I am not sure about his stats, but these “over two thousand children reported missing, every day”…someone needs to educate Malcolm, that the overwhelming majority of these invariably turn out to be runaways and children abducted by their own parents [who are fleeing the area, and taking the child without the other parents permission]. To use this information in a show such as this one, in such a vague manner, and let it hang out there with all it’s implications, is grossly incompetent at best, and possibly malicious.

4) “One in three children molested”, is a speculative projection, which is far from being substantiated…and I would pose the question, if such a staggering percentage of the population is molested as a child, and molestation is so devastating…then why have we not seen these tidal waves of “injured and broken” people, coming out of the woodwork, and being so debilitated as to cause our society to collapse, by the sheer volume of people unable to cope [with the myriad of, seemingly endless, and weird, chronic conditions that allegedly result for a lifetime from “sexual molestation” (any illegal, sexual touch)]?

5) If Malcolm is not even going to pretend to strive for integrity here, then this can be dismissed as media tripe…and I am not hearing anything, that tells me this guy has the first clue, about what he is trying to articulate…just a lot of spooky language, numbers/stats out of context…all leading up to a glut of propaganda…though, I’m sure it kept a lot of people listening to his show [and it’s all about ratings, isn’t it?].

6) Somehow, they conflate what is done here with “criminality”…Does that even deserve a response, aside from pointing out, that any hint of their credibility left, is utterly killed by this display of mammoth ignorance?

7) “Should be banned”…Malcolm and his cast are fascists and censors, in addition.

8) Another clueless dork, who hasn’t heard of NAMBLA, in spite of the many times it’s made national news, and been lampooned over the years?…but, of course, he’s going to go on, opening his ignorant mouth, and letting whatever he supposes/pleases fall out. Yes, NAMBLA has been out there for a while…at least 30 years…

9) The flippancy by which Malcolm dismisses [and I would say, mocks] the groups and information he is trying to smear, is outright shameful.

10) Another ignorant, who thinks that written accounts of personal sexual experiences, can be deemed “child porn”…This show is from Florida? If Newgon were hosted in some place like Canada, this might be a more dicey situation, and there might be such a danger [no matter how ludicrous]. Written testimonials, and discussions, of childhood sexuality are not illegal in the USA, nor should they ever be. Such a law would be soundly unconstitutional, and indefensible. It is a terrible embarrassment to the USA, that people who put themselves forward as the media motivators, personalities and leaders, are so obscenely ignorant about basic national law, and civil rights.

11) Doesn’t pay attention to “this kind of nonsense”…what a self absorbed, contemptuous and ignorant comment. These kinds of groups and sites, are a direct response to social stigma, social panic and obscene over reaction. These kinds of groups exist, because we live in a world today, where even young children are being arrested, sometimes incarcerated in detention facilities, and being branded a “sex offender”, complete with life long registration, community outing to anyone who can access the information, and all over nothing more than healthy, human sexuality. We exist, because of the predatory exploitation against us. We exist, because we cannot get a fair and accurate representation, any other way. We exist, because aggressive, predatory social groups, have relentlessly sought to get as much human sexuality as possible, legally reclassified as “rape”, or “assault”, completely irregardless of it’s factual nature…and largely, they have succeeded, to an alarming degree. We exist, because it is time to step up, and if we do nothing, then all these children so many claim to want to “save from harm” [and untold numbers of other, good people], will continue to be fed to their “utopian machine”…because, they fancy themselves as knowing what’s best, for everyone in the human species, everywhere and at all times…and I could go on…

12) Malcolm fails to understand, how disseminating information, writing articles and putting forward a stance, is different from “breaking the law”, by “playing with little people”, as he puts it. He probably wont read this, but just for the record…when a group/minority has had certain outlets of expression/engagement made illegal, they still do have the legal right [in the USA] to voice their opposition to said prohibition. They still have every right, to explain themselves, and their viewpoints. Considering the ruthless stereotype that “pedophiles” are saddled with, it is imperative that someone comes forward, and attempts to quell public hysteria.

My diagnosis is…Malcolm and his crew, are small minded ignorants, who just want to shoot off their mouths, and smear people like us with the fall out of a small girls, extremely tragic murder.

Maybe we should return the favor, and start spreading nasty rumors, that Malcolm and his cast are cannibals, who prefer harvesting three year olds from playgrounds?

…It’s only fair…

Ah…The “Wonders” of Zero Tolerance…

Date: October 13, 2009

…Zero Tolerance “Improving” the World…

…Zero Tolerance “Improving” the World…

I’m contemplating a new slogan, for zero tolerance…

like, “Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence”…

or, “Zero Tolerance = Total Idiocy”…

When people have decided that tolerance will not be afforded at all, we find that the most stupidly senseless outcomes emerge…such as this one…

…Tragically, this is not the only incident of it’s type.

Couldn’t at least one person, somewhere, have had the guts and integrity to stand up, as a principled person, and take responsibility for making an intelligent decision, here?

…I guess not.

Another very young, small child gets suspended from school, because the school wont take into account intent, when the kid brought a knife to school.

He must be thinking, adults are pretty crazy and stupid, right about now…

…a recurring thought, that’s scurried through my own mind, over the years…especially as relates to committees, governments and other forms of overbearing “authority”…

The Boys Are Back (2009)…

Date: October 7, 2009

Here is a heads up, for any BL unaware of what looks to be a wonderful movie, on the horizon.

The Boys Are Back (2009)

The trailer

This is one to look forward to…

…and certainly not to miss.

Nicholas McAnulty looks quite wonderful [and shirtless!!!], in this movie…

As an LBL [little boy lover], I can say he is very appealing.

George MacKay is nice, likewise.

BoyChat Webmaster: Thoughts and My History with BoyChat…

Date: October 3, 2009

“Investigators said for nearly nine years, Schillaci avoided federal and local authorities by running an international online forum for “boy-lovers” out of a shabby home in rural Mexico. Users would anonymously donate money to support the site — and Schillaci, authorities allege.”

I arrived at BoyChat in the summer of 1998. JimF3 was the webmaster, and would remain so for roughly two years…and then hand the position over to Robbie (who turned out to be the murderer, of another well loved BoyChat poster, and was gone within months)…[Happy] Camper took over [and in my opinion, was the best BoyChat webmaster I ever “knew”] and remained for at least a few years…after which came the radical change, where BC Webmaster became more of a public relations position [there to address announcements, concerns and complaints]…This is where Asa [and shortly there after, myself as an assistant] became BC webmaster…Personal problems for Asa, no well defined role for either of us to adhere to, and myself left hanging without any answers, communication or status report on the sitting webmaster, meant that “our” era was destined for a [very unfair] demise…but still, it lasted several months. Ford Prefect stepped up [apparently, too few people liked me enough to give me a real chance], and remained a very good BC webmaster for over a year…at which time, I believe…it was Curtis who inherited the position…and remained there for quite a long time…a couple of years, anyway.

I don’t recall if there was anyone else in between…but…

Schillaci [Dylan] came into this position, some time after I had distanced from BoyChat quite a bit.

Now, either this boy-lovers forum they are talking about, is something entirely different from BoyChat…or, somebody is pulling a big fabrication, out of their own behind.

Schillaci may have been the longest setting BC webmaster, but he was not running BoyChat for nine years…and if he was getting by, on donations made to BoyChat, then there are various people who have a lot to answer for…he was not entitled to any funds from the BC donations [except, maybe, for services rendered in connection to his technical skills, employed on the FS websites…but, that is a sort of thing that would have been limited].

I did not know Schillaci, other than from his postings on BC…he seemed to arrive, several years after myself.

I think, we barely even said “boo” to each other, in what overlapping time we did share at BC.

What is this forum, that Schillaci sustained himself on, for nine years?

Maybe he was good at changing personas, but still…I don’t buy it.

I knew the people behind running BC well enough, for several years…and he was not one of them, during my [considerably long] time.

My understanding, is that [Dylan] was an expert in css, and BC did give him some business, there near the end of his freedom…BoyChat transferred over to css, I guess about a year ago…if that.

Other than that, for the past several years, BC Webmaster, has been something of a chairman, public figure kind of spot.

Camper was the last “real” BC Webmaster [in the fullest of sense]…he had behind the scenes, “hands on” control of the board, and all the coding and improvements that we were given to work with…and he also came out, and mingled with the BCers.

In truth, during all the years I just summarised, there was a gradual, incremental shift in power from the Free Spirits Committee [and probably most importantly, JimF3], to the BC Cogs [with regards to the running of BoyChat]…

Camper was fundamentally instrumental in this shift, as he wanted to excuse himself from the webmaster position, while empowering a wider range of people, to tend to the needs of the resources and their users…Jim fought this, “tooth n nail”, and became extremely nasty over it…[and gained quite a few enemies, through his behavior].

Over the years, if memory serves me correctly, eventually the Cogs did get to appoint the BC webmaster…Curtis may have been the first.

If they had had this power when Camper wanted to bestow it upon them, then BC history would have read differently, as [unexpected by me] there arose a substantial show of support amongst the then current cogs…directed at me [and another, well loved BCer]. But, Jim pulled rank, the FSC conceded, by appointing someone who was in good with (approved by) Jim…and I got appointed as the [first] assistant BC webmaster, in what I believe was more of a token nod to the Cogs…a consession, for not allowing the Cogs voices to have authority, over this appointment.

It was a shame, because I was so deeply dedicated to BoyChat in those days, and it was the most beautiful, exhilarating sensation, to know that people thought “that” highly of me…I became very serious about the prospect of accepting, but there was just one thing after another…and in the end, the experience just really left me cold. I cant say that I would have been “great”, but I would have honestly done my best, if given the chance…[I think, back in those days, I did hold enough status and respect in the BC community, to allow it to work]…

Anyway, the position was widely understood, as a liaison one…Someone to be at the forefront, so that all the techies and “bean counters” could be left alone, to actually tend to what they needed to do.

A few interesting facts…

Dylan, on several occasions, could not afford to pay his internet bill, and would be gone for weeks, if not months, while being the setting BC webmaster. I find it astonishing, that given how much BC used to get in donations, if Dylan had his hand in the jar, why would he not have enough to pay for internet?

BC Webmaster, along with all other positions, were voluntary and without pay. The people who rise to the occasion, are generally good people, who strongly believe in what we are collectively doing….[you have to be, in order to put up with so much abuse, for any extended amount of time].

I reprised my position as a cog, during Dylan’s time as webmaster…for a couple of months…and I didn’t see anything from him, that changed my understanding of this position.

Lastly, it says a lot, that BoyChat has been without an official webmaster, since Dylan got arrested. Apparently, it was felt that times have changed, and the need is no longer presently there.


…I was acting BC webmaster [in the new and undefined capacity of that era], for the period of six weeks, to two months…while Asa was “missing in action”.

Other than Asa’s obvious absence, nothing especially noteworthy occured…Nothing fell apart, and BoyChat was just as good and functional as it ever was, when Ford Prefect took over as webmaster.

In my opinion, it was a successful service to the BoyLove community, no matter how badly short it got cut.

If there was any complaint on my part, it is that we got tossed into a new, undefined possition, without any previous model to base our own activities upon…What exactly was expected of us, in this unique capacity? We never honestly had a chance to hammer this out…and things [entirely out of my control] just sort of hijacked the whole situation.

Also, what I was offically appointed too, was not supposed to be anything but a back up and support position…I was supposed to be in the background, largely silent…Then, suddenly, things changed…and we were all left hanging for nearly two months, thinking that Asa might return at any time.

I can tell you, that I got the impression that at least one FSC member thought that I should have been taking more initiatives durring this time…

Sad thing is, I was largely locked out of the game…BC Webmasters get an automatic position on the FSC, and access to their private board…I had no such access…and communication with the FSC was nearly non-existant, from my point of view.

In all honesty, I do not see what I could have done, to advance into this position officially…It just seemed to be doomed, by cruddy circumstances.

You know, now that I think about it, I was wrong about Curtis…

…Shortly after being dumped, without a word, just through discovery of unfolding events…we serving BC Cogs appointed Ford Prefect, to the position of BC Webmaster…

Ford was the first BC Webmaster, appointed by the cogs…[how quickly things evolve…then again, JimF3 was in good with him…There was an existing alliance of friends, at the high end of Free Spirits].

Asa was his Assistant BC Webmaster…

My service was forgotten about, and nobody even said “you’re fired”…which kind of summed up a lot…and, by this time, I had clearly reached a turning point with BoyChat.

Maybe, it’s not something to be taken so seriously?…but, then…this was all going on, durring the “golden age” of BoyChat…When the posts and threads would literally scroll off the main page, into “old posts”, every single day…we would end up with an entirely new, front page of posts…because the community was so vibrante and alive.

We were more like a family, back then.

My discovery and participation at BoyChat, was life changing…It used to mean so much to me…and what I describe here, happened durring those day.

I can look back on it, now…

…and no, I am not even a foot note, on the former BC Webmasters page…

…and, you know…maybe, what I did was not worthy of mention there?

There have been multiple times, when two or three [maybe more] people were filling the webmaster role…doing the work, but anonymously [I’m thinking of “Webmaster A”, “Webmaster B”, and maybe there was even a “Webmaster C”, durring JimF3’s era as BC Webmaster]…They don’t get any mention, and they have far more right to the accolades, then I ever will.

I don’t know…Maybe it is that Asa gets mentioned, yet he was gone for such a large chunk of his time…It just felt like it might have made logical sense, for the assistant who filled in, to get a mention…

…but, it’s always been my stance…that if “I” had to mention it, in order to make anyone consider such a thing…then I don’t want to be acknowledge…because, obviously, nobody thought enough of my service, to make mention of it on their own.

…and, that also puts things into perspective.

I am not lying, or exagerating, when I say that I am a former BC Webmaster…whether I acknowledge being an assistant, or acting…

I’m not looking for any extra status, or accolades.

I simply have mentioned it, as a way to flesh out my history online, in a broader perspective…and let people know where I’ve been, and what I’ve done…

…I’ve only mentioned it a few times, and at my blogs.

There are no sour grapes here…I am not bitter about anything…

…but, it was a substantial disappointment, from my vantage point.

I wish it had the opportunity, to be so much more than it was.

There was a glass celing, which I was not going to break through…What I represented, was a tiny step, making an advance, which others would surpass…until, finally, Dylan became the first BC Cog, to move onto full fledged and acknowledged, BC Webmaster.

…but, just for the record…I was actually the first BC Cog, to advance to a BC Webmaster position [even if only in a subdued capacity]

Dylan has often attributed this to himself…but, I don’t think he was even around [on the staff, anyway], back when all of this was happening…So, he would not have known about it.

I just felt a need, to flesh out this part of my history with BoyChat.