The Furry Community Is Worse Than You Can Imagine…

Date: November 13, 2018

01) The Furry Community Is Worse Than You Can Imagine

Note: He does go into things, which I’m not really talking about in my comments below…He goes beyond, where I was going…I just wanted to make that clear.

Note Two: You could replace the term “furry”, with anti-pedophile vigilante…and his descriptions throughout this video, would fit them to a T…The ones on Twitter?…this is a dead on, exact description of them, and how they behave…minus the accusation of sex with roadkill…I don’t know for a fact, that any of them do that…I just know those sorts invariably end up having massive skeletons in their own closets…of one nature, or another…or multiple.

“I’m done with the furry community. These are my reasons why. If you want to live like this, I’m not going to stop you. I just feel it’s fair to warn those who are new and don’t yet know what it’s really like.”


…He says the most aggressive and manipulative pursuers of sex [sex roleplay, online sexual encounters] in the furry community, is the kids/teens?

…Well…not so much “curious”…I’d actually expect that, myself…Most older people aren’t likely to be so aggressive, nor lack respect for an individual’s wishes…The young are much more horny, and with sex on the mind…and when they are amongst peers…well…they probably just figure, that sex is a large part of what everybody else is there for…

I don’t know a lot about the furry community…but, I do know there are a lot of sexual over/undertones in their art.

About eight minutes in, Kothorix states what amounts to my own philosophy, on the online MAP community…as relates to conduct.

You cannot be judged based upon what turns you on…You cannot be judged for outwardly discussing, the things which dictate the quality and style of your lived existence…

…But you can be judged, for taking actions…which you know are not likely to end well…even more so, when it drags other people into the mess, unwittingly.

I know it gets complicated…when questioning whether the human animal is destined to follow it’s nature…but we are a sophisticated enough animal, to where most of us can channel our natures in different directions…

…I, for example…instead of having boys in my bed over the years…have poured myself into scads of writing…and producing the occasional bits of media…for over twenty years…

…It may be a pale substitute…but it has not bitterly been all for naught.

It’s been extremely meaningful, in fact.

…I don’t know if I should call it a regret…But I was still young when I arrived at BoyChat…and one thing I wish I had understood walking into that community…is the number of people [even though only a minority]…who were not there, solely for the same reasons I was…

…Over the years…you find out that you are there for community, support, philosophical discussion and news tailored to our interests…but just enough people are also there in the mix…who aren’t exactly on the same page…and a few of them, have done remarkably messed up things…for which their decades long prison sentences, are fully justified…

…I wish I’d have realized how bad the “black eyes” were going to be, by the backlash inflicted upon us from the actions of a few sociopaths within the community…

…or even just the cases of people who aren’t necessarily bad…but at some point, they privately decided that they were no longer in this, for the community, the support, the friendships…and they wanted something illegal…So…they went out and got it…at places and settings, which are not BoyChat…

Certain antis have had a field day, trying to taint everyone who had anything to do with the mere running of BoyChat, with the actions of a few people who were once associated with the board…which is a gross, gross distortion…

One of the mammoth paradoxes for me…is accepting that I cannot lack understanding, for why many must love [or seek a substitute], even in the face of cruel prohibition laws…while understanding that it is this lack of self restraint, which is allowing us to be isolated and picked off…thus nullifying our ability to cause real, social change…We cant do this, when so many of us are in prison cells…or too fearful of what we will expose about ourselves, and what will be imposed upon us for it…

Very few individuals of BoyChat were involved for social change…Their motives were much more meager…sometimes, even selfish…And we got blindsided by a few of these individuals, badly.

I wish I’d have known, who was on the level…and who was not.

…It’s just something I wish I’d have known, before walking into the BoyChat community.

Free Spirits and BoyChat are beautiful, wonderful, badly needed, vital resources…and I love the BoyChat community…wonderful people…some of them, are my second family…

…and, we’ve never been able to prohibit the more broken [naïve, careless…] individuals, from drifting through our community…

…Knowing what I know…I used to think we were pretty rock solid, about ejecting really bad elements from our community [and we honestly were]…Today I realize…it’s ultimately impossible, to catch everything…and it only takes a bad element one appearance on BoyChat, paired with one illegal act however vaguely connected to their BoyChat persona…for the antis to spin it into a conspiracy on BoyChat, which factually never was.

A lot of the antis try to represent BoyChat as the epicenter, of veiled illegal activity for pedophiles…When in reality, BoyChat has always been more of a sideline space, for those of us who don’t want to get wrapped up in the trappings of illegal behaviors…

…The “epicenter”, is somewhere off into the dark/deep web…

I’ve only known BoyChat to discourage illegal activity, and to strictly prohibit it’s own resources from ever being used in the commission of illegal activities…

…And, yes…I could share a detailed account [or two] on that, too…

…In fact…there are a few cases in specific, which I’d really like to open up about…and share my experience and perspective on…But, given some people’s penchant for distortion…I likely wont.

One Last Kiss…

Date: November 13, 2018

01) KISS Announces ‘End of the Road’ Farewell World Tour

02) Kiss Online

“After a legendary 45-year career, KISS is taking a final run. The band announced their End of the Road farewell tour on NBC’s America’s Got Talent on Wednesday (Sept. 19).

The multi-year stint will give fans one last opportunity to witness the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees’ famous explosive live shows.

KISS is the latest of music icons who have announced final live shows recently, including Elton John, Paul Simon, Ozzy Osbourne and Lynyrd Skynyrd.”

After 45 years…Kiss is one hell of a lot deeper and diverse, than you would ever imagine if you are only familiar with their most famous hits [like Rock and Roll All Night, Deuce or Strutter]…

…Most of their early hits demand time to grow on you, before it hits you…that this is actually good…

…And for all the complaints about “over production”, or “too slick/commercial a sound [aka it’s not the true band]”…they still put out a number of great modern [even a tad bit more “pop-ish”, soft rock] tracks.

It’s interesting how polarizing Kiss seems to be, whenever they come up in conversation with just anybody…randomly…

Most people who hate Kiss, seem to have a very shallow exposure to their music.

…And I can more less understand that…Most of their more modern stuff, just does not get played on the radio…or anywhere…You have to seek it out, and purchase it online…or luck out, and find it in the tiny “music section” at a department store.

Kiss had a rebirth, and a metamorphosis, back in the early mid-eighties…It was their second heyday, and they were a lot more polished…They put out some excellent content, during and after that time.

…But Kiss will never truly escape the “type casting”, of loud, unsophisticated guitars, and unvarnished vocals…Not given what most people hear from them.

I always get a bit depressed, whenever I hear of another fair well tour…

…I think the first one that really caught my attention, was the Cher tour…and more recently, the Elton John tour…What a horrible loss, his departure is going to be…

So many people, who’ve produced the music of my life…are leaving us.

M.A. Voice: Issue 36 – November 13, 2018…


Articles and content from Minor Attracted People [MAPs], presented in no particular order and without preference or discrimination. These are diverse viewpoints.

Note: All BoyChat links will include their corresponding TOR URL to use in the TOR Browser. If the main link does not work, please use the TOR URL.

Date: November 13, 2018

01) Grenfield: SENSUALITY
TOR URL: http://r2j4xiyckibnyd45.onion/messages/1518658.htm

02) Todd Nickerson: The argument that pedophilia is inherently wrong is . . . well, wrong

03) Pro-Pedo Front: Conversation I had with Wehr on my Translation of “The MAP Starting”, as requested

04) Filip30: Article ‘‘I’m in love with an older man’: …
TOR URL: http://r2j4xiyckibnyd45.onion/messages/1520188.htm

05) Filip30: study ‘Multimodal neuroimaging measures and …
TOR URL: http://r2j4xiyckibnyd45.onion/messages/1520215.htm

If you’re a Minor Attracted Person [MAP] who would like your content featured in the next issue, please use the form below to pass along the necessary information.

You may also submit content created by other MAPs. Any form of legal content [written, audio, video, artistic, academic, personal expression, etc.] will be considered for inclusion.

All submissions made via this form are private.


Other Issues

Michigan voters legalize recreational marijuana…

Date: November 12, 2018

01) Michigan voters legalize recreational marijuana

“Supporters at the party for Proposal 1 to legalize recreational marijuana celebrate at a party in Lansing.”

Michigan Legalizes Recreational Marijuana – Now What?:

“Michigan has passed Proposal 1 to legalize recreational marijuana. But that doesn’t mean you’ll be able to buy it right away”

How legalized marijuana would work in Michigan:

“On November 6, voters will determine if recreational marijuana is legalized. If the measure passes, here’s what recreational marijuana use will look like in Michigan.”

Michigan legalizes recreational marijuana:

“Michigan this week became the 10th state to approve recreational marijuana, joining Missouri and Utah that have legalized medical marijuana. Colorado was among the first states to legalize marijuana use. Last year, Denver brought in nearly $45 million dollars in taxes from pot sales. Barry Petersen reports.”

FBI Investigating Matt Whitaker Company…

Date: November 12, 2018

01) FBI Investigating Matt Whitaker Company

“Trump’s pick for Attorney General is under investigation by the FBI.

The FBI and U.S. Postal Inspection Service have a criminal investigation underway against a company that paid acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker as an advisory board member who promoted the company, the Wall Street Journal and the Miami New Times first reported. The FBI doesn’t comment on active investigations.

Whitaker wrote at least one email on behalf of World Patent Marketing to a disgruntled customer citing his former job as a U.S. attorney and threatened the potential of ‘serious civil and criminal consequences.’ He received $9,375 for his advisory role, and was owed $7,500, according to company records. The firm’s CEO also donated $2,600 to Whitaker’s 2014 Senate campaign in Iowa. Whitaker appeared in promotions for the company and his name and background was used as part of its telemarketing script.


The moral roots of liberals and conservatives – Jonathan Haidt…

Date: November 12, 2018

01) The moral roots of liberals and conservatives – Jonathan Haidt

“Psychologist Jonathan Haidt studies the five moral values that form the basis of our political choices, whether we’re left, right, or center. In this eye-opening talk, he pinpoints the moral values that liberals and conservatives tend to honor most. Jonathan Haidt studies how — and why — we evolved to be moral. By understanding more about our moral roots, his hope is that we can learn to be civil and open-minded.”

WSJ Article: Hillary Clinton Will Run Again In 2020…


Date: November 12, 2018

01) WSJ Article: Hillary Clinton Will Run Again In 2020

“Get ready for Hillary Clinton 4.0. More than 30 years in the making, this new version of Mrs. Clinton, when she runs for president in 2020, will come full circle—back to the universal-health-care-promoting progressive firebrand of 1994. True to her name, Mrs. Clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies. She won’t let a little thing like two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House.


I’m thinking at this point…the only graceful act we can expect out of Hillary, where it comes to any hope of her leaving the U.S. presidential races alone…is dying.


Seven Men – Quentin Crisp (1971)…


Date: November 12, 2018

01) Seven Men – Quentin Crisp (1971)

Thanks to feinmann0!

“Granda World in Action profile from 1971. If you like this please buy the restored DVD of The Naked Civil Servant that has great extras including this and ‘Mavis catches up with Quentin Crisp’ from 1989.”

Quentin Crisp on the gay liberation movement, 1977: CBC Archives:

“In this clip in 1977, author Quentin Crisp talks about his controversial life as an openly gay man in the 1930s and the gay liberation movement of the 70s. For more classic clips, go to”

Quentin Crisp Collection on Late Night, 1982-83:

M.A. Net