Date: January 26, 2014
…Sun News: Pedophilia an Orientation…
…Sun News: Pedophilia an Orientation…
This is Canadian news…and it looks to be hot off the presses…
They are making issues out of Dr. James Cantor, and his statement that pedophilia is an inborn sexual orientation.
Now…for many of us who live with this…the point [that we were born this way] is an indisputable fact…It’s just others, like these two reporters, who have been so deeply conditioned that they cannot wrap their minds around this point.
There are a number of things which ought to be commented on, here…like the older guys summary of pedophilia as “sodomy and torture of children”…Of course, they bemoan what it might legally mean, should “pedophiles” become a protected class, holding equal standing to everybody else in society.
Well…Let’s dissect this “report”, shall we?…
Marissa Semkiw opens by framing it as a controversy, the question “is pedophilia a sexual orientation”…She also evokes “survivors of childhood sexual abuse”, right off the bat…Apparently, they are the ones getting angry over this question…
Then we move on to James Cantor, who says “yes”…”Pedophilia is an inborn condition, not a learned sexual behavior”…
James Cantor: “Nobody chose to be attracted to adults. Nobody chose to be attracted to children.”…etc, etc…
All the research seems to show, that we are wired this way…according to Dr. James Cantor.
Dr. Cantor declined their request for an on screen interview…and given the nature of this “report”, I think I have a pretty good idea why…
Marissa cites another interview from another show, where Cantor says “the way society treats pedophiles is all wrong”…
Dr. Cantor talks about society’s gut reactions, of how “this person is evil”… and “the correct reaction to have, is remove them from society forever”…”is actually not making things better, but making things worse”… All the while, another video is playing… and alternating with the Cantor interview… This video is of an, apparently, stalking pedophile… They even get a close up of his evil eye…
…”We need to be dispassionate, clinical and think rationally about this situation”…
…Apparently, the above comment offended Marissa…
Marissa informs us, that Dr. Cantors research is “far from accepted”…but “the theory is becoming more prominent”…
She cites the American Psychological Associations spectacle over the DSM-5…And how a group of loud, obnoxious and burdensome groups, who wallow in ignorance working to spread ignorance around the world, caused such a public stink over the APA presuming that it might be able to do something scientific, correct and morally right [ie: actually acknowledge pedophilia as an orientation, such as it starkly obviously is]…and how this caused the APA to retreat, and capitulate like a scolded dog…
Apparently, interference with science is not the scandal here, in the mind of Marissa…She seems just peachy, with the fact that ignorance dictates practice, even in this field…
It is outright disgusting…that ignorance and bigotry, can so easily sideline actual research and science…But, I guess Marissa does not understand anything about that.
For the record…Classifying pedophilia as a sexual orientation, does nothing to condone actual sexual relations between an adult and a minor…Since this point of fact is apparently lost on some people, it seemingly needs to be clarified.
Few, if any, of us have been lingering under the impression…that the APA is going to lead us into social acceptance…Heck, the APA has been the social instrument, for the obscene oppression of sexual minorities, including pedosexuals…It is foolish to imagine, that a technical change in the DSM is going to imply the APA is fighting to legalize pedophilia.
They made the change, as I understand/interpret it…not to condone anything…but to more accurately define our state of being…Potentially, this could bring more compassion into the arena…It could lead us away from the cruelties of “aversion therapies”…It could actually get doctors, mental health people, etc…to stop treating us like adversaries, simply on the grounds that we were born and we exist…and whatever all, they automatically presume “must be true” about us.
…These concepts might be a bit too deep for Marissa…I don’t know…
“If such a theory gains acceptance, it could have wide ranging legal consequences.”… And we just can’t have that, can we?… Oh, heavens no!…
A legal scholar is brought on…
Edward Prutschi says it brings up questions, for protections in the employment sphere…
… Imagine that… pedosexuals enjoying the equal employment protection and human rights as everybody else… They seem quite shocked and concerned, over the prospect of having to treat pedosexuals with equality… as human beings, with equal rights… and human rights, too?…
My goodness!…”One may not be able to discriminate against a person, for the mere fact that they are a pedophile, so long as they don’t act on those desires.”…
…Yeah…because their sense of entitlement to discriminate, is so precious to them…
Did he just imply, what I think he implied?…That he thinks it is alarming, people might not be legally able to discriminate against [and abuse, frankly] pedosexuals, when they are obeying the law?
…He is concerned, we might be normalized and integrated into society…
Hmmm…No integration for us if we live in Canada, huh?…
Joe Womback [Sp?], founder of the Canadian Victims of Crime Foundation comes on… and, of course, things suddenly devolve into a distorted face off, between this question posed to us [is pedophilia a sexual orientation] and “the protection of our most vulnerable”…
…Yes…”Save the children!!”…that’s it…
Apparently Joe wants to isolate us from the rest of the community…and this is “erring on the side of caution”…How this has anything to do with anything, is anybody’s guess…as most of the people brought into this “report”, honestly have nothing to say [authoritatively, or otherwise], about the fact that being a pedosexual is a matter of sexual orientation…
…They are just arguing against it, because of phobias surrounding how they imagine society is going to change, over this one simple acknowledgement of truth…Don’t budge and inch, and spite all honest dialogue, just to make sure no brighter future is foreseen to pedosexuals in this world…
…Joe is also working under the delusion, that this is “allowing these individuals back into our community”…as if, there are not untold numbers of us, already in your community, Joe…
I think, Joe is doing what so many other people do…mistaking having this sexual orientation, with being a criminal…It is as if, Joe does not understand, you don’t have to break any laws, in order to be a pedosexual…or a pedophile, if you will.
There is a distinct difference between the question of sexual orientation, and that of the ability [or willingness] to abide by laws and social norms.
Being a pedosexual does not mean that you are a criminal, nor that you have done anything, really…It just means you are sexually oriented, towards a specific sort of human being.
Theo Fleury [an NHL player], claims that this is tantamount to “taking 5000 steps backwards”…And apparently nobody told this hockey player, that this is not a question about passing a law [well, okay…most sexual minorities are legally protected in Canada…So, it’s a bit different there]…What is before us, is a matter of science…and with regards to the APA, a matter of medical practice.
Of course…Theo was a high profile victim of child sexual abuse…So, naturally…Marissa wants to parade him in front of the audience, like Joe…and let the audience soak in their anger, outrage…and frankly, ignorance…
Yes…”Bring forth the wounded”, so that they may rant, rave, plead… and be the token sympathetic avatar, for whom this horrible finding is attacking…
Theo does not want this to be accepted… and goes on to express, what is essentially the public plugging its ears, and shouting down this point of fact… Or in other words, ignore its merits, and pretend that it’s all just lies…
This is why, for years I have considered the sex abuse industry to behave on par with the blind furor, in organized religious groups… And I even call it a religion, in its own right.
…”They are right, because they are right, because they say they are right.”…and don’t ever get in their way, with anything that does not fit their predisposed assumptions…or you’ll be sorry.
Is the smarmyness of this “report” at an end?…No?…
Theo says “we live in a sick enough society already”…and if we acknowledge [or pass a law, as he says it] pedophilia is an orientation…we are “taking 5000 steps backwards”…
…because, apparently…knowing true things, being informed and educated…and making decisions based upon sound knowledge, is going against progress, in Theo’s mind…
…They flash a blurred out scene, of kids going into a school building, while Marissa says, “One only hopes, the public will heed Fleury’s words”…
And that is the end of the official report…but, then Marissa and Michael Coren [the show anchor, I expect] go on talking about it…Michael needs to properly express his own distress…
…”[Michael launches with a contemptuous sigh, and rolling of eyes] The contempt that doctor had for ordinary people, with their gut reaction…yeah, when a child is sodomized, raped, tortured…there’s a bit of a gut reaction, isn’t there?”…
…Yeah, sure Michael…I expect there is a gut reaction, when a child is raped, tortured and the like…And I suspect, that you are under the delusion, that pedosexuals do not identify with this gut reaction?…
…But let’s put that bigoted ignorance and hate speech aside…
…Where in any of this, does children being sodomized, raped and tortured fit in?…
The question is one of sexual orientation, and how this can make pedosexuals better understood and approached…
… This is not a debate, over whether or not your community is going to throw your little children into a pit of horny rapists, along with a tube of Astroglide…
No, it is not contemptuous to anybody at all, least of all victims of sex crimes, to better understand pedosexual human beings.…
How keeping the public ignorant “better serves victims” [or the public], is something I want to know…Because that sounds about as loony as it gets…Maybe, Michael and Marissa could explain?
Michael calls this piece of propagandist tripe, “a brilliant piece”…
…and we wonder why this planet is going straight to hell, when the talking heads who inform everybody on what to think, cannot even clearly think or understand themselves…
Michael makes an issue, that Dr. Cantor would not be interviewed by Marissa…and she implies it’s probably because Cantor has “seen some of [her] work”…She equates Dr. Cantors work with normalizing, or de-stigmatizing pedophilia…”by saying that you are born with it”…
Finally…Marissa concedes that nobody is trying to remove sanctions, with regards to criminal activity…but, she is horrified of the broad reaching implications, if pedophilia ever gets acknowledged as a sexual orientation…
…Do you ever get the feeling…that certain people are too deeply invested in their own intolerance and hate, to just let go of it [even if it were for the better]?…That is exactly the sense I am getting here…As I so often get, from many of these people [and groups] who push for extreme prohibition and extreme penalties. It’s like, this is all they have ever known…If you take the extreme hate and violent intolerance out of the equation…they simply do not know how to function…It’s like, they are lost without it…And they get all the more frustrated and angry, over the idea, that blind hate and violent intolerance should go away…Do they not understand, those things are bad for society?
In all fairness…Canada is a bit of a unique animal…in that it explicitly says in its Charter of Rights, that a citizens status of sexual orientation is basis for legal protection [so long as they don’t break the law].
What is so preposterous here, though…Is that everybody in that “report” is all up in a huff, over the mere theoretical idea, that pedosexuals might end up being treated equally under the law, within society…and with some degree of common dignity…
… Talk about contempt… Now there, Michael, is real contempt for you…
What Dr. Cantor expressed [that pedophilia is a sexual orientation], is not an expression of contempt towards anybody at all…In fact, if either you or Marissa had bothered to investigate, and actually did your jobs competently…you would have easily found, that Dr. James Cantor has zero intentions of ever helping pedosexuals achieve normalized social status, with all the rights realized by everybody else.
…Good grief…the poor guy gets clobbered from both sides, because he is not really looking to liberate pedosexuals from oppressive laws, either…But, the extreme prohibitionists don’t want to budge an inch, when it comes to treating pedosexuals fairly, and ethically…And, they find what lean crumbs Dr. Cantor is trying to scrape together for pedosexuals [for the furthering of their mental treatment], is getting in the way of their hate and phobia…
…Dr. Cantor is threatening to take away their social scapegoat?…
Okay…This is getting long…I am getting tired…They suddenly have some still picture of a guy, with his face mostly covered….and Michael is blathering on, about not understanding how anyone can be attracted to children…[my sincere condolences, that your tastes have been so horribly stunted, Michael]…I think, it is time to stick a fork in this…
…You can go watch the rest of this tripe…and leave your own comment below, if you like…
Michael gives us his [quite un-professional] rejections of various notions, including being born with this…blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…
This is yellow journalism, by a couple of yahoos, who like listening to themselves talk.
…They did not even address the core points, with any integrity…They just produced seven minutes of dehumanizing propaganda.
They attacked somebody, who made a simple, honest statement…
This is an excellent example, as to why I have such disdain for the mainstream media…
…It is in response to all the contempt and disdain, which they show towards us…They even take it to the extent, of extreme pure idiocy.
Just to note…There are a few things brought up in the last few minutes, which I find intriguing…Does the brain honestly alter, based upon being “sexually abused” as a child?…Maybe it does…
…But, I honestly need to go to bed…My mind is shutting down…So, I shall spell check and post this.
One last note…For the record, I have some degree of respect for Dr. James Cantor…It takes real guts to be out there, even just doing what he is doing…And he is getting clobbered from all sides, for taking this stand. I am not going to embrace everything he finds, or has to say…but I don’t believe what he is presently doing, is without merit.
My impression is, like it is with certain other people who are “working with us”…That they are working under good intentions, within the framework of their own social and psychological conditioning…and they are sticking their necks out, on behalf of finding a better way forward.
Hence…I afford them some slack.
In summary…this “brilliant piece” is nothing but a simple minded hatchet job, stuffed with blatant dramatized visual cues…
Dr. Cantor…I wouldn’t have given these unprofessional bozos an interview, either.
It is painfully obvious, that a true, traditional interview…is the very last thing they honestly wanted.
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