Date: May 30, 2013
This is someone who likes to throw stones, and lacks human empathy…He also likes to appeal to clichés and dogma…but he brings nothing of substance to the table.
…He sounds completely self absorbed, himself.
…Lecturing others about “not caring, what else is going on around the world”?…How rich…
This guy is someone who cracks open the bible, and starts dictating to people from it’s passages…believing that it is all authoritative…But how much time has he actually spent, reading the research?…reading the articles from the researchers, themselves? How much time has he spent, actually attempting to understand it all [along with it’s nuances], as opposed to ranting with knee jerk tantrums?
…Grimacing and scoffing, does not constitute a rebuttal…It only clarifies that you are a thrower of tantrums.
This guy is throwing several topics on the table, despite that none have anything to do with the original research…which he is allegedly responding to…
What does the research say?…
…It concludes that large numbers of males experience an involuntary, biological, sexual response, whenever they visually encounter the genitalia [or other parts] of a child’s body. This response is high enough, to where it is considered to be a normal response, within the male portion of our species.
Of course…many males conceal all of this, and don’t act on it…But, research is strongly pointing towards the conclusion, that it is still there in a very large portion of our species.
This isn’t really new information…It’s been known for decades, that males in particular have a natural response of this nature…It’s just now starting to make it into mainstream media.
…Does this guy display any awareness of any of this, at any point in his almost twenty minute tantrum?…No.
He asks “how is this even allowed to occur”, referencing a conference on the topic…and the [former, actually] existence of P.I.E. [the Pedophile Information Exchange]…And then makes a not so vague threat, of wanting to attend the next event “with a billy club”…
He wishes to dispute that pedophilia is loving and tender…but responds with “can you believe this?!”…
…I tell you what “Uprising”…You find someone competent to do an exhaustive worldwide research study, wherein they conclusively find zero cases of a loving and tender child with pedophile relationship…where they show with absolute certainty, with no question whatsoever, that loving and tender relationships like this never happen…and the method through which they are rendered naturally, biologically impossible of happening…
People asserting their “god doesn’t approve”, “sex is icky” or “this doesn’t fit into our social structure” bias, don’t count.
You manage that…and I might start to take you seriously…
…As things stand…you are just completely ignorant, and you don’t even know the issue you are attempting to talk about. You’re one of those people who likes to talk, talk, talk, attack, attack, attack…when you should be silent, set down and let other people teach you…so that you can actually learn something real and true…
…But, that doesn’t earn you followers and popularity on YouTube, does it?…Far easier to be a belligerent, contemptuous jerk, threatening violence against others…how “Christianly” of you.
He seemingly tries to dispute a quote about personal experiences of pedophiles, and how we know from our own childhoods, that children are not asexual…
…but doesn’t actually do so.
…He talks about “intellectual and big words, and giving reasoning behind these views”…taking none of it into account…Apparently, the words are too intellectual and big for him…They are just fine for any thinking person of average intelligence, I’d say.
You know…the very existence of the pedophile, who was naturally sexual as a child and personally comprehended it [which is my own experience, by the way], dispels the myth of the asexual child.
Those of us who lived this existence, all those years of our own childhood…we know that whitewashing people like us, is an outrageous lie on the part of the establishment…We know for a literal fact, that society is in deep, deep, deep denial…
…Apparently, some of you weren’t as sexual [didn’t have as strong a sexual drive?] as others of us…or, you just didn’t comprehend it in the same way as us…which is a fair enough observation, and would make for interesting, informative research, I think…
I know all of this is inconvenient for those of you who don’t like to think about it…but it’s reality…Maybe, you should learn to live in reality, like so many of us have had to?
If you need an invitation…I’ll offer one right now.
No…you are not allowed to strip us of our childhood cognition, nor our sexual identity…And, yes…many of us were [and are] acutely aware of our attractions, and our sexual intentions, as children…
…Your entirely lame mockery of this fact, does nothing to disprove it.
…I, for one, am amongst the untold numbers, who were not traumatized by sexual touch as a child…Being amongst that demographic, and knowing the inhumane hostility shown towards people like me…I demand deeper research into people like me, into our life experiences, and into why we did not turn out traumatized by sexual touch…in hopes that one day, we can move society past it’s phobia and intolerance, of people who’ve had different sexual experiences from “the majority”.
…Is this unreasonable?…Is this not a worthy pursuit?…Is it really so incomprehensible?
…You, are just fighting to keep a broken, anti-human social system afloat.
Unless this guy comes up with something unique in the remainder of his tantrum, I am done.
This video is bankrupt of any substance…Just some ignorant guy with a motor mouth, spouting off “what everybody knows”, who feels no compulsion to search, explore and grow his mind…He doesn’t even seem to comprehend, that he is scoffing at the real life experiences of real, living human beings…or why these real life experiences should be respectfully taken seriously…
…No…just more of the same old, demonizing, dehumanizing bullshit.
…And “we talk about it, as if it’s a misunderstanding of the public”?…
…The public is demonstrably ignorant about pedophilia, on a level which is outright incompetent…And you think you’re just going to scoff it off, again?…You are amongst the ignorant and incompetent.
…Lots of spooky, cliché talking points being employed, I see…lame…the hallmark of an impotent mind.
You don’t think that pedophilia and hebephilia are normal in males?…Consider this…
Across history and cultures, acceptable “sexual maturity” has ranged widely, based upon variables in the natural world, and variables in social politics…It still ranges widely, today. The primary factor tends to be, what social structure is dominant in any given culture. In general, people are expected to emulate one another, and follow the “normal” life path set forth as “proper and best”, by whomever is looked upon as authority. They want you to act and behave in certain ways, based on [typically rigid] ideological life phases…Many social structures do not make allowance for deviation, from their forceful intentions for you. They feel sexuality is incompatible with certain life phases, and punish people for experiencing such sexuality.
…Problem is…science and empirical research do not actually support this intolerance…and they’ve had to manipulate and strong arm research studies over many decades, to make it appear otherwise.
What males typically go for sexually, depends overwhelmingly on whatever is socially allowed…You can follow this trend, in every social culture you look at. You lower the age of consent to twelve, and when the stigma has faded away…tons of people will be openly taking twelve year olds to bed with them…and feeling no shame over it.
Of course, a massive amount of the male population experiences these kinds of impulses…They’re just under the surface…Just deep enough, for plausible deniability…but get rid of the prohibition and stigma, and we will find what the true statistics are…probably quickly.
Keep in mind, however…it does not make someone predatory, when they are merely attracted to someone younger and smaller than themselves, nor when they wish to share a sexual experience with such a person.
Offering something and giving pleasure to another accepting human being is not predatory behavior, no matter what age they are.
…It is an out and out filthy lie to call us predators, for being like this…
…Predators do not behave like us.
…We do not behave like predators.
People who viciously attack us…people who are constantly targeting us…You people are predators, by literal definition.
We “pedophiles” are not attacked for literally being cruel and violent towards children…That’s a stereotype and a straw man, based on a combination of rare cases and convoluted news reporting…We are attacked so viciously, because “authorities” in our culture don’t want children being sexually active…It’s sexual suppression…No allowance is made, for the natural sexual activity of children…They, and those who would otherwise be with them, are threatened to “abstain, or else”…
The stereotyping, demonization, constant shaming and threatening…these are all methods, of psychologically imposing not only a barrier on children and pedophiles…but also imposing a violently hateful intolerance, amongst the general population [most of whom don’t even know where fact diverges from fantasy, when it comes to this issue].
…So, you bring up and talk about your cliché stereotypes…about the nightmares and trauma, experienced by children who were sexually brutalized…But most of that wasn’t even done by actual pedophiles…And these things do not act as a true representation, of people like us…Those are cherry picked distortions you are throwing about.
We live in a variety of ways…Many of us are sexually celibate…Many are sexually active in legal and ethical ways…Many of us abstain, despite knowing that prohibition aimed against us is a sham.
We are not judged based on who we are, as individual human beings…
…We’re judged based on whether or not “authorities” think we get in the way…as they groom children into being mindless, working drones, keeping the “authorities” in power…and keeping the rigid social structure in place.
Our true threat as pedophiles, is to the establishment…it’s to the people who gain so much, in things being the way they are…it’s to the people who stand to lose their power, money and control, should this social structure no longer exist.
…They play off the fears and phobias of the many…telling them that children [and everybody] will be raped, pillaged and murdered, without their “authoritative” iron fist to protect them all.
Positive and benign sexuality has nothing to do with any of that…
…They don’t want to respect, honor and value pedophiles [or sexually active children, for that matter]…because they foolishly believe, they will never have to…nor that they’ll have to answer for the way they maltreat us.
People like this guy, are what is wrong with the world…They just want to walk all over other people, spit in their faces and beat them down with a billy club…Because they are too cowardly, shallow and self absorbed, to reach out and find peaceful solutions.
The social disease is not pedophiles and perverts…It’s people like this guy, who fight to keep all of us at each others throats.
…It’s time to kick these divisive shysters to the curb…and let all of us good, kind, sensible and knowledgeable people [who genuinely care about each other] build a better, more peaceful world.
Let the war mongers fight amongst themselves…We have no use for them.
Okay…I’ve had enough of wading through this brain numbing tantrum…And I’m only about half way through…If anyone else wishes to pick at this [it’s like spearing fish in a barrel]…have at it.
As a side note…”Uprising’s” video entrance is amusing enough to watch, once or twice…but it’s about a minute and fifteen seconds long…and it gets insanely annoying, fast [if you’re browsing their videos]…Short YouTube videos don’t need a long, canned introduction…It’s crazy to give them one…and probably most of this guys viewers are skipping ahead to the 1:15 mark, by now.
I wish more YouTubers of this sort would get a clue about such things…They are not so grand and glorious, that they need this kind of time wasting parade, to announce their arrival…
…A two to five second little ditty is perfect…and some people even manage to make those, painfully annoying to watch…
…Unless your making a commercial show…I wish the intros on “cottage YouTube videos” would just go away…They are senseless and annoying.
Oh good grief…And he’s evoking Satanism too?
I ask you sincerely, who deserves these words of vulgar abuse and hate, merely for daring to live, love and be loved?…
Have no doubt, that Child Love and Teen Love are a pure form of love…genuine and worthy of defense, no matter what some may say about it…
| THE WALL |
Date: August 22, 2015
I’m returning to the video featured here, because it begs a response.
Here it is, in full.
In a nutshell…dialectics is the practice of changing social perspective, by talking about certain issues or things in an intentional manner. If you don’t like something, you might promote a negative way of speaking about it. If you don’t like people’s hostility towards something, you might choose to start talking about it in a neutral or positive way. The idea is to psychologically push a culture in a certain direction, by exposing it to a persistent positive, negative or neutral message [or tone, if you will].
Now…Debra and Cliff clearly find it objectionable, whenever people with views different from their own employ dialectics…What I’m finding curious, is that they think nothing of employing dialectics in that very episode, themselves.
Cliff has been beside himself over Pope Francis…That pope doesn’t embrace pursuit of the mighty dollar and unrestrained capitalism, enough to keep Cliff happy…In fact, Cliff has made many episodes, decrying how the Pope is calling for social accountability…even speculating that this Pope is “the antichrist”…
…No…I am not joking here.
Cliff cant stand, that this Pope is genuinely concerned about climate change.
I find that fact that Cliff actually goes so far as to call this concern for the climate “worship of the planet”, to be a clear example of dialectics…especially since this automatically sets it up against “worship of god”…a direct conflict with organized religion…Cliff’s religion, anyway.
I have to wonder…are these individuals unaware, that organized religion has an outright notorious history of using dialectics to demonize [and many of us would suggest, dehumanize] certain other groups and their customs?
…Before complaining about the dialectics of others…maybe they should check the plank in their own eyes, before pointing out the mot in the eyes of others?…
…Just a thought.
Pots should think carefully, before calling kettles black.
As to dialectics…I am certain some will suggest, that what I do on this blog is the employment of dialectics…especially as pertains to pedophiles and pedophilia, etc…
…and they would be dead on correct…because I reject the demonizing social narrative and all the hyperbole, in very strong preference of simple honesty…and that practice is very much against the grain, when it comes to discussing pedophilia.
I proudly employ dialectics, to infuse pragmatic honesty into social dialogue about these topics.
…Somebody of principle has got to do it.
Date: August 21, 2015
…the “We own the language, we own the rules, we own love…NOT YOU!!!!” crowd…who cant tolerate anybody, unlike themselves.
For the record, it would probably be best to watch this from the start…to get a feel of what this conversation is all about…And realize, Debra starts off by saying she got her start from reading the bible, and noticing parallels to modern times…
This is not the most promising interview, where it comes to questions of sound integrity.
…It’s still fun, sometimes, to peer through the window and see what others are claiming about us…
The “global agenda” allegedly has big plans for us…Amazing.
…And the Kinsey Institute has a “propaganda arm” [SEICUS], that is arguing on our behalf?…Wow.
I strongly suspect there is a lot taken out of context…because I have way too much experience with this sort of thing, to not be left suspecting such.
I’ve not watched the entire episode…and maybe I should, because there might be some more real whoppers left to be seen…
…but I knew various people would appreciate seeing this…even if only for a chuckle.
Cliff asks if “we’ve gotten dumbed down enough to accept pedophilia as a civil rights lifestyle”…
…Well, Cliff…other than to look at you as an alarmist, trying to scare people into action…it astonishes me, that anybody takes this seriously.
You are clearly living in a very different world than I, if you think the world is somehow pulling on our behalf.
…The U.N.?…Good grief!…There has been at least one group within the U.N., that’s been pushing for a universal age of consent to be 21 [twenty one] years of age…Are you and your guest unaware of this?
…And this is supposedly the governmental body, which you expect to usher in an age of adult child sexual relations?…
Groups representing people like us, were ostracized before the LGBT community was allowed to have an advisory panel to the U.N.
The U.N. has been overwhelmingly toxic and aggressive, when it comes to it’s dealings with people like us.
I’d suggest you two are extremely disconnected from reality, as it is happening in the real world.
You’re just spreading false information.